72 k20 project

[mx289]

Wow does that look good.Congrats.

The bumper and winch look tough.As does the motor !
Its getting there.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by RatRod68

so does this mean all the fab stuff is done and it is time to put it all together for the last time?

its kind of like that. this wont be awesome like those rigs that get totally built, then blown apart for paint and then its assemble by numbers. there are a number if things a that need to be addressed. i am not planning on unbolting the cab once i bolt it on. i will just be careful and do all the rest as it goes together. not my ideal plan, but i dont have the space or time to build it all the way first. ill quit crying.

Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck

I'm sure it's in here somewhere, but what are you using for your oil filter head?

I made a rough draft. it was OK, but then i made these up with the help of a buddy who CNC'd the inner details for me. not sure where i will mount them.

Originally Posted by mx289

Wow does that look good.Congrats.

The bumper and winch look tough.As does the motor !
Its getting there.

Thanks! i cant wait for the rest of the body. time to go put a pop knot on the body mans head.

I'm scared for the idiot who rear-ends this thing!

[dieseldude4bt]

The original filter heads have a by pass valve in them as well as a pressure regulator, your remote unit only has a pressure regulator in it, will your remote heads use a by pass valve?
I couldn't bring my self to leave it out as it was used in the original system.

[mx289]

Kick open the door of the body shop wearing a bandana.
Or American flag pants.

You will get respect.


I keep looking at the cab pic. .......

Its got me thinking i should paint my truck the original 518.
I have been flopping lately.

Ryan,what rim and tire combo were you thinking ?

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by dieseldude4bt

The original filter heads have a by pass valve in them as well as a pressure regulator, your remote unit only has a pressure regulator in it, will your remote heads use a by pass valve?
I couldn't bring my self to leave it out as it was used in the original system.

i considered the ups and downs of this. since the bypass is there to prevent a filter explosion if the media is overburdened with debris, and i will be running two filters in parallel, i don't think i will have an issue. i guess if i am wrong, it will be a nice noise and a real mess for a lesson. if i do have an issue, i can run the OE oil cooler plate that was modified for remote filter and still retains the bypass.

Originally Posted by mx289

Kick open the door of the body shop wearing a bandana.
Or American flag pants.

You will get respect.

my hair is long enough that i am almost always wearing a bandana/headband t keep the hair out of my face anyhow. i will have to look into some pants. i was planning on reminding him that i always pay in cash and he told me springtime. then telling him i want my parts painted, or i want my can of paint and the bare parts and i will take them to someone who wants money. i am not super impressed with the effort on the cab, so if i take them elsewhere i wont be sad.

Originally Posted by mx289

I keep looking at the cab pic. .......

Its got me thinking i should paint my truck the original 518.
I have been flopping lately.

Ryan,what rim and tire combo were you thinking ?

I say go for it! it is uncommon enough that it is cool and i sure think it looks pretty good.

i haven't made up my mine on wheels yet. i am generally not a fan of polished/chrome but on this truck i think it would look good. i have mostly been looking at black or black/machined wheels. ideal choice is probably BMF Novakane wheel in 18x9 with a 35 inch(or metric equivalent) tire. leaning towards toyo MTs or cooper sts. i suppose it depends on my mood the day i buy them. there are a few other tires i have looked at as well. so i cant say as i know for sure what i am doing. i am also looking at other wheel options and there are a few that i like, but forget what they are. the high school side screams for mud tires. the grown up side tells me to be sensible and get a tire that wont suck in the snow and will actually last for a little while. i love the cooper STS and have run them on my DD trucks for years. they last much better than most mud tires i have owned, but i never have had them on a diesel.

[ryanroo]

this little box showed up.



Fancy!



fuel lines need some love, but i wanted to see how big of a pain it was going to be. seems like it will be ok. i need to order some bends and get on it!



so, i finally stuck a flange on the fabbed elbow. i can clear 5" all the way. i will trim a gore off the ell since i don't need all the angle. add another thing to the list, now i have exhaust to look into...

[Dieselwrencher]

Nice work, it is looking awesome!

[6BT 56]

yep its looking good for sure. this truck will have so many cool little things done to it that it will take a person who hasent followed your build a week to go over this truck once finished Keep up the great work . Looking forward to seeing more green tin ..

[mx289]

I like those wheels.
A local guy has them on a super duty.Good looking wheel.
And Toyo's have been good to me.Looking into a set for my truck.

Hopefully the body work nonsense works out smooth.I'am just getting into that dobacle.

That exhaust elbow reminds me of a cone pipe exhaust on a dirtbike.Me likey.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Nice work, it is looking awesome!

Thanks man!

Originally Posted by 6BT 56

yep its looking good for sure. this truck will have so many cool little things done to it that it will take a person who hasent followed your build a week to go over this truck once finished Keep up the great work . Looking forward to seeing more green tin ..

Thanks! there certainly are a lot of little details that will be easily missed. thats part of the fun!

Originally Posted by mx289

I like those wheels.
A local guy has them on a super duty.Good looking wheel.
And Toyo's have been good to me.Looking into a set for my truck.

Hopefully the body work nonsense works out smooth.I'am just getting into that dobacle.

That exhaust elbow reminds me of a cone pipe exhaust on a dirtbike.Me likey.

body guys... i hate to generalize, but jeez.

elbow is kind of cool. i build big versions of those alot for work. itll get burried in heat wrap, and be invisible when it is done. another fun detail burried. haha


i fiddled around and made some good noises for the neighbors.





still cooking up an idea for lic. plate mounting. i have a few kicking around, but i need to talk to my buddies at the Marshals office about the possibilities and what level of attention they may garner



i also odered these new lower pin/caps for the D60 a while back. the originals looked like they had water contaminated grease in them for a while before the new stuff went in. just enough to give me the twitch though. then i remembered i needed a yoke for the 60, so i ordered it the other day. the OEM application was a 1330. nope. replacement is 1350. gives the new seal a BFN surface to ride on too. cant hurt.

[Dieselwrencher]

Ryan, would one of those spring loaded license plate frames work if you let the plate be pulled down and locked in place to access the winch? Or cut your bumper on the RH side and recess a rectangel in it and put your plate off to the side maybe centered in the RH portion of the bumper? Nice work on the winch hole, and it's nice to see parts rolling in. Each piece brings it that much closer.

[tsnow678]

Going off of what Dieselwrencher suggested, use a hinge at the bottom(not spring loaded) and mount it to the lower two holes and on the top two holes use a pair of rare earth magnets to keep it up right during normal use. When the need to use the winch, simply pull down on the plate and let gravity do the rest.

[ryanroo]

not a bad idea. i am leaning towards a hinged plate. the magnets are a neat idea, but i would be afraid of loosing them or some passer-by snatching them for the heck of it.

i may also be able to use a thumb screw and tap a hole in the fairlead face. i am leaning towards the hinged apparatus though.

[ryanroo]

these used to be cool...



frame all cleaned up. more paint once i dismount the winch.

[DeadheadNM]

Wow!!

[ryanroo]

Thanks Pete!

you guys are probably tired of the same pics, but i like em!

sitting at RH. front and rear. a poor representation. the floor slopes to the rear, and the front tires are smaller. should have a little bit of a nose heavy stance. i prefer that look in a "working" truck. always looks ready for a load and seems more aggressive. i will have to tune the ride height once it is all together and i can have it on some level ground. looks close to me though.





slammed all the way out front and rear. curbside load position should be pretty close to a stock 4wd. i dont have one on hand to measure, but comparing numbers to my yellow truck shows it to be in the area.



jammed in tight.





truck puller mode. no air front, at the top in the rear.



this would be dumped rear and RH front. trailer hook up position



the goals here where to measure for shock length front and rear.

this is at the top front and rear. bag spec on the rear says it could go at least 2 more inches up, but i didn't like it. got nervous about the bag over extending.

the fronts by spec have more than 3 inches left. they scared me too, so i stopped. i will probably set up the limit straps and shocks to take adavantage of the added length, to a degree, but i will err on the conservative side since the down travel will be less of a concern on this truck.





gratuitous shot



roughly comparing my yellow truck with a 2.5-3" lift, it will be in the area of a 5.5-6"ish lift over stock. again, i'd need axle to frame measurements to compare or a factory height truck around to compare more accurately. the rake is a little more than stock for sure.

[ryanroo]

I also did a little "test" not the most reasonable since the rest of the truck is not here, but i filled one front bag while all the rest were empty. i didn't take any real measurements, but the chassis is pretty darn rigid, but does flex just a touch. perfect.

[BigRed76]

Awesome work on the chassis
Is there a bit of a body lift on the cab I see?
And I see the factory front shock mounts are still on the frame, are you planning on using those?

[mx289]

Looking good there Ryan.

Very cool to see the suspension in all "modes".

And it all fits.
All those details are paying off.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by BigRed76

Awesome work on the chassis
Is there a bit of a body lift on the cab I see?
And I see the factory front shock mounts are still on the frame, are you planning on using those?

Busted. i wasnt going to tell anyone and draw as little attention to it as possible. should have painted the pucks black. i have a new chore. the cab was not around when i did the front suspension. so... the cab supports hit my link brackets. i had this sneaking suspicion that i was possibly going to need some extra space. i dont have a humongous gripe with a 1" lift, but i do wish i had a little better set up to test fit all this stuff in a timely fashion. oh well. the space also allowed for the 5" exhaust to fit without any compromise and a few other fitments that were pretty tight loosen up a bit. also makes it a bit taller and i wish that wasn't the case.

Originally Posted by mx289

Looking good there Ryan.

Very cool to see the suspension in all "modes".

And it all fits.
All those details are paying off.

there are definitely some things i need to address, but so far i cant gripe. i am excited to post pics of the different modes being controlled by my control ciruits and all the bodywork on, but i cant resist some motivational pics.

[BigRed76]

Originally Posted by ryanroo

Busted. i wasnt going to tell anyone and draw as little attention to it as possible. should have painted the pucks black. i have a new chore. the cab was not around when i did the front suspension. so... the cab supports hit my link brackets. i had this sneaking suspicion that i was possibly going to need some extra space. i dont have a humongous gripe with a 1" lift, but i do wish i had a little better set up to test fit all this stuff in a timely fashion. oh well. the space also allowed for the 5" exhaust to fit without any compromise and a few other fitments that were pretty tight loosen up a bit. also makes it a bit taller and i wish that wasn't the case.

Yeah a 1" body lift is tolerable IMO, I can't stand the 2" & 3" body lifts.

[ryanroo]

I agree, anything over 1" is totally out of the question for me. i am less impressed with myself than could be due to the lack of forethought that could have prevented this, but the added space i got in other areas really does make it a positive. feels like heresy to say that.

here are the old next to the new.



installed. new bolts will have to happen.



punched the wiring pass through holes in the bumper and trimmed excess off the receiver tube as well



also melted this in.

[jbclassix]

Crazy thought, thinking about going this route on my Cummins swap, what about raising the cab mounts the necessary height, and dropping the bottom of the core support. Since you are pretty much building a bed, why not drop the bed floor. I say all this knowing that you are already way past that point, just agitating that twitch.

[ryanroo]

open to suggestions on ideas for bumper color

i am thinking silver or white with a mild chance for black. i am almost positive the front bumper will be OEM and white.

[DeadheadNM]

Originally Posted by ryanroo

open to suggestions on ideas for bumper color

i am thinking silver or white with a mild chance for black. i am almost positive the front bumper will be OEM and white.

I'd vote for something like an argent silver - keeps with OEM-color theme for a factory step bumper. White my second vote.