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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
Nice. Man thats a big hole in the ground. Is there a path to the bottom? Bisbee looks cool.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
Great work on Lance's rig, and sweet pics. That hole is crazy, and what cool scenery! Those street lights are cool, those doors are way cool. Thanks for sharing the trip with us.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
Thanx for sharing another cool adventure.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
We had kind of a lull in adventures for awhile. In the beginning of May we went to a location that we were sworn to secrecy on so I can't post pictures of where we went, but we stopped by a place on the way back that had a bunch of old vehicles out back. We didn't talk to anybody, just walked the fenceline and took some pics.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
We did go to Overland Expo again this year, but I didn't take too many pics. I like walking around looking at all the cool stuff, but I end up not taking many pics. Here are a few from this year:
MAN truck: ![]() Cool old LandCruiser: ![]() Sunset Friday night: ![]() Here are a few from last year at OX that I guess I didn't post: Back when Land Rovers were real vehicles: ![]() I'm not normally one of those people who post up pictures of food, but my buddy Bill makes some insanely tasty fried chicken and everyone else contributes side dishes that add up to a crazy good meal: ![]() Met Rick Pewe from Four Wheeler Magazine and he took a bunch of pics of the truck for the mag out on the Land Rover test track: ![]() It's not the flexiest rig around, but it gets the job done: ![]() Now I've done some strange things to "get the shot" with a camera, but this one might just take the prize for weirdest: ![]() It didn't end up making the magazine but that's ok. The best part of the deal was hanging out with Rick, both at the shoot and the evening prior eating fried chicken. It's real cool when someone like Rick, who has literally seen it all, expounds how he loves the simplicity of your vehicle which is like a blunt object swimming around in a sea of high-tech, high-dollar rigs that often rarely get used for anything.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
nice!
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
Just finished reading through the complete post. Liked all the modifications that you made to the suburban but really liked all of the trip post where you were using the truck. Thanks for taking the time over the years to make it more than just a build but also to document the use and enjoyment of it.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
Don't stop posting the pics. Even if most people are just lurking I'd bet most love how you have tied the build to the follow up use of the vehicle. There are hundreds of build threads on the site. Most of the threads die without a completed project. Too many give up and have never, nor will ever drive their trucks. If all everyone wanted to see on here was another post of a painted chassis or rocker/floor replacement there would be no need for another thread to be started. Most want to see whats new and different. Yours is unique and the scenery is always great.
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Bisbee looks way cool and that junk yard is drool worthy. You would have probably would have had to try to keep me off the fence that so I wouldn’t get shot.
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Wish Nick and Lance could have come along with us to Canyonlands after the Expo this year. We could have really gotten some great pics together. This one is a trip Mosesburb and I took in 2012. Fun time! We need to get another trip planned out!
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
I read every line. I just try not to muck up the works with useless posts. But I use your 'burb as a talking point when the subject is about a usable, cool, off road ready, daily driver with special camping abilities.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
I look forward to your and Larry's thread updates. You guys have, by far, the best pictures, updates, and projects!
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I keep telling my wife about "this guy" that has a Suburban.. hint hint... that goes camping and site seeing at old mining towns out in the desert. I need to get her to look at the pictures. I mean, doesn't everyone need a custom 'burb to go camping? I think they do.
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I greatly enjoy the pictures of your adventures, keep them coming!
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It's too bad you didn't get in the mag, but then again, you use your truck so that wouldn't make mag sense.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
So I guess it is time to catch up on some of the nuts and bolts of this thing. I have been putting off a lot of the pictures of the maintenance/modifications in lieu of posting trip pics. Well, I have a bunch of trip pics from some trips lately, but I need to clear a backlog of the stuff that keeps this mess on the trail. So, here we go.
I have had a few requests regarding pictures of how my winch is mounted. Awhile back I found a Warn M12000 commercial frame winch on the old c/list. It seemed like a good deal, the only problem was it was in Flagstaff and I was not. While normally not a problem, at this point in time a trip to Flagstaff to pick up a winch would have negated the "good deal" aspect of the unit. I managed to hatch a plan with a local member up there who then sent his wife to meet up with the c/list seller in a parking lot to pick up my M12000. All sketchiness aside (and sending his little wife to pick up a huge winch), it worked out rather well. So now I have a winch, a big-ass winch. The sheer size of the winch began to set in. It's big. I want to do some sort of mounting behind the bumper. I started doing some research on how other people had done it and found that people don't do it because it doesn't fit between the frame rails. Oof. Wish I would have done this research before I bought this thing. I decide to strip it down and take some measurements for myself. I removed the control assembly and was left with this: ![]() So I do some measuring and it's not THAT far off. If I do some finagling installing it it gets even closer. I eventually get it down to this: ![]() With a little strategic "polishing" of the inner edges of the frame channels, it reluctantly goes in. ![]() Oh, my. She's a big one. That is as far up as I can get it. I had these neat plans of how I was going to mount it and where I was going to put it. Well, let's just say I put it where IT told me IT wanted to go. There was literally no room for negotiation. So needless to say, nobody makes a mounting kit for this thing to go between the frame rails on a '72 Suburban. I started looking at any winch mount I could lay my eyes on to see how different winches are mounted. The thing that surprised me the most is how light most mountings are. I even looked at some mountings on different tow trucks and was amazed at how "un-heavy" the mounts are. Now, granted, they are engineered and obviously hold up just fine, but I thought they would have been bigger.... Now the time comes to choose materials. Being that I am very limited on space and how I can mount this thing I went a little heavier on the mounting plate. I roughed out a mounting plate from some 3/8 cold rolled plate. I used some 1/2 x 3" angle in the frame channels for brackets: ![]() After I got everything located on the plate I decided to put a reinforcement rib across the front of it. I grabbed a piece of 1/2 x 1-1/2 flat stock and burned it across the face. I figured that, plus the 3/8 plate to start with should hold the winch sufficiently. ![]() I used six of the 1/2-20 flange head IHC crossmember bolts and nuts to hold the plate to the brackets: ![]() I then used six 5/8-11 bolts to hold the brackets to the frame: ![]() Holy few dollars of hardware in the last couple pics. Hopefully the last "trial fit": ![]() The damn thing is heavy and generally uncooperative during installation and/or removal. At this point all I need is a bumper. I cut a opening in the original bumper and the fairlead fit right in. The fairlead came with a standoff bracket that save a bunch of time and effort by spacing the fairlead out from the winch face and put it perfectly in the opening in the bumper. ![]() I mounted the control box assemble to the driver side inner fenderwell. I just realized I don't have a picture of it, but it is there. I made new power cables to connect it to the winch as well as new power cables to the battery. All in all it ended up fitting in there and it has worked great the few times I have used it. I have yet to use it on a trail (and hope I never have to), but around the yard, etc, it works great. The guy that I bought it from said that it was on a truck that had a rear winch so this one never got used. I had to re-clock the housing to bring the shift lever to a lower area and when I had the housing off, it really did look like brand new inside. After messing around with this I got to looking at other possibilities for winches and there really aren't many for a winch of this capacity. One option was the Zeon from Warn. I hadn't seen that one until I bought this one, but it is a smaller frame which would have simplified mounting somewhat. When we were at Overland Expo this year, Warn had a booth and had two 12k winches that were disassembled showing the difference between the two. ![]() Zeon on the left, M12000 on the right: ![]() The ring gear from the Zeon fits inside the ring gear from the M12000. Pretty impressive. The most impressive thing I thought was the fact that all of the power from the winch goes through the pencil-sized hexagonal shaft in the pic (same size for both). Never would have thought that would transmit ANY power without shearing, much less 12k worth of pulling power.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
I wanted to pass along a big thanks to Palf70Step for the truck of the month nomination. I clicked on the link to see what the subject for the month was and was pleasantly surprised to see my truck in there. Thanks man!!
If anyone wants to throw a vote at it, the contest is going on HERE.
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Re: The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)
There is an M12000 on the local CL that has been baiting me lately.... haha
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