The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1960 - 1966 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board > projects and builds

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-20-2010, 07:09 PM   #1
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Things got alittle Kinda sucks not having a bumper,or a jack that cost more than $40. Had to cut the bolts off so I could get a socket on to tighten it up good . I guess they make them that way just for the fun of it. I know a deep socket would have worked but I was lucky to have a 1 1/8 reg one.
Duct tape, saws- all, grinder and a good time was had by all. Could'nt find any wire.

Went for a test drive, I can see a notch in the furture. Just have to be alittle more careful. Ended up taking my rubber bumpers out. I like the looks better,I'll post a picture tomorrow.
Attached Images
   

Last edited by daverod; 05-20-2010 at 10:57 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2010, 09:56 PM   #2
tommys66
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern, MO
Posts: 233
Re: Daverods project 66

Paint looks good man, dig the blocks in the rear. good idea you are right on the -4 degrees for the engine.
__________________
I love the smell of lead paint!
tommys66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2010, 10:56 PM   #3
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: Daverods project 66

Do not forget those tires!! When they are replaced to something more permanent they may change the angles.
Is there a rubber spacer on the transmission mount ?? My TH 350 used a rubber mount block about 1" thick between the tailpiece brace and the crossbar.
I like all the Orange paint! but you should be using Blue as Blue and Orange are the colors of Boise State University . Rated number 2 in the nation in preseason football polls
Go Broncos!!
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2010, 11:02 PM   #4
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba327 View Post
Do not forget those tires!! When they are replaced to something more permanent they may change the angles.
Is there a rubber spacer on the transmission mount ?? My TH 350 used a rubber mount block about 1" thick between the tailpiece brace and the crossbar.
I like all the Orange paint! but you should be using Blue as Blue and Orange are the colors of Boise State University . Rated number 2 in the nation in preseason football polls
Go Broncos!!
Yes it has a rubber trans mount. I think the problem is the trans cross member is a new style so you can run the exhaust in the frame. I think I'll just have to shim it up. My tires are 29" tall thats going to be about the size I want. I set my frame to my ride height. When you mess with the air bags up can change the rake to what ever you want so I don't know how important a level carb is?

Last edited by daverod; 05-20-2010 at 11:06 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2010, 11:25 PM   #5
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: Daverods project 66

Name:  IMG_2453.jpg
Views: 508
Size:  37.5 KB I cannot tell by your picture of the crossmember but it appears similar to mine I just installed in the 64 . My TH350 sits on the rubber brace about 1" thick but I have not checked motor / trans angles.
I drilled and welded a 1/2 I.D. pipe through my crossmember before installing it to use as a E-brake anchor point and fabbed up the rest of the E-brake parts
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 10:05 AM   #6
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

That looks just like my cross member. Have you put a level on your carb to see if it's level? With 2 shims my carbs close to level and my trans is at 5.5*. I'm going to get a couple more shims today.
Went to the junk yard no shims. Whats up with that. I had two sitting in my garage. Also found a chevy 350 trans I did'nt even know I had. Guess I'll make some.
-2 on the 64's rear end. I'm thinking thats as low as you can go with static stuff.
Attached Images
  

Last edited by daverod; 05-21-2010 at 01:16 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 09:46 PM   #7
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: Daverods project 66

My magnetic angle finder (like yours) is on my service truck at work, I will bring it home Monday and check angles.
Just a rough once-over tonight with a torpedo level shows that my engine is lower in the rear.It is hard to say how much at this time.
I had to measure off the valve cover of the inline 6 cylinder as the carb is 1 barrel monojet right now and too small to balance the level. My driveway has a negative fall , the bed of the truck is removed and new rear springs and tires have it tail high right now. taking all that in-- it still looks lower to the rear of the motor.
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 10:12 PM   #8
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba327 View Post
My magnetic angle finder (like yours) is on my service truck at work, I will bring it home Monday and check angles.
Just a rough once-over tonight with a torpedo level shows that my engine is lower in the rear.It is hard to say how much at this time.
I had to measure off the valve cover of the inline 6 cylinder as the carb is 1 barrel monojet right now and too small to balance the level. My driveway has a negative fall , the bed of the truck is removed and new rear springs and tires have it tail high right now. taking all that in-- it still looks lower to the rear of the motor.
I read the engine tilts back but the manifold on a v8 is made to account for the tilt. Thats why the carb sits level and the transmission is at 4*. I'm not sure about a 6. I was looking at trans mounts. Brothers has one that is taller they even say it works ideal for the new crossmember. All I saw was the $39 price tag the rubber one was $9. You know which one I bought. Made some shims. It's all good.

Last edited by daverod; 05-21-2010 at 10:17 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 10:35 PM   #9
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: Daverods project 66

How does the carb stay level when you are playing with the the bags and doing wheel hops or one side down and one side up????
seriously i think the driveline yolk angle is all you need to watch.. the drive line needs to be offset or angled . Anything but spinning true and straight yoke to yoke. the U-joints will not last long.
There are several threads on here about driveline angles
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 11:14 PM   #10
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba327 View Post
How does the carb stay level when you are playing with the the bags and doing wheel hops or one side down and one side up????
seriously i think the driveline yolk angle is all you need to watch.. the drive line needs to be offset or angled . Anything but spinning true and straight yoke to yoke. the U-joints will not last long.
There are several threads on here about driveline angles
Accually they don't work if everything is straight. The needle bearing in the ujoints wont spin. You want some angle just not a lot. So far as the carb being level I dont think thats to imporant but the trans mission being a 4* is. When compared to the rest of the drive line set up that angle doesn't really change when you are messing with the bags. I've been reading. I hope I'm learning. But you already knew all that. I read what you said wrong. It's not as if I'm going to be putting 15 to 20,000 mile a year on it anyway.

Last edited by daverod; 05-21-2010 at 11:25 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2010, 11:58 PM   #11
watahyahknow
Registered User
 
watahyahknow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: the netherlands europe
Posts: 4,335
Re: Daverods project 66

there some special yokes available for off road aplications that can still operate under extreme angles maibe thats an idea
__________________
i got a job again and having fun at it too

idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real

i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts
watahyahknow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2010, 03:38 PM   #12
ruffrida2005
Member of the longbed union.
 
ruffrida2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Killeen, Tx
Posts: 2,158
Re: Daverods project 66

Looking good Dave.

For the angle of the dangles he's the ? you need to ask. Are you running a 1 or 2 peice driveshaft? If a 1 peice. The trans needs to sit at 3* Down and the Pinion on the diff needs to be at 3* up. With that being said you man run into problems running your exhaust with your crossmember if you move it up. If you just shim it up you'll be fine.

You may have to cut the trans tunnel up a little more not sure since the trans is going to be sitting higher up now.

I cant really tell you about a 2 peice drive shaft.

If you dont want to shim it up then you can run a CV joint off the trans that will give the drive shaft more flex and take out the vibration of not having the correct angles.

All this info is coming from Jason and Nate, so you can ask more queistions about it. Also take a look at my thread or Creeps and you'll find that info on there from Nate.
__________________
Paul

88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400

64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it!

92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759
ruffrida2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2010, 03:40 PM   #13
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

I'm doing a two piece.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2010, 03:48 PM   #14
ruffrida2005
Member of the longbed union.
 
ruffrida2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Killeen, Tx
Posts: 2,158
Re: Daverods project 66

If I'm not wrong either Bazooka or Creep is doing a 2 peice so I would check with them. or even PM Nate he's always willing to help.
__________________
Paul

88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400

64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it!

92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759
ruffrida2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:31 AM   #15
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66


Last edited by daverod; 05-23-2010 at 10:35 AM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:32 AM   #16
scotts62
One day...
 
scotts62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tuttle, Ok
Posts: 9,240
Re: Daverods project 66

yeah but then you do like i do all the time and leave what you were needing at work
__________________
Scott

93 crew cab build
Project 62
scotts62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:37 AM   #17
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by scotts62 View Post
yeah but then you do like i do all the time and leave what you were needing at work
I guess I should have said I need big a$$ air compressor at home, with all the tools that go with it.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:43 AM   #18
scotts62
One day...
 
scotts62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tuttle, Ok
Posts: 9,240
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by daverod View Post
I guess I should have said I need big a$$ air compressor at home, with all the tools that go with it.
There ya go now your talkin!
__________________
Scott

93 crew cab build
Project 62
scotts62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:34 AM   #19
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Sometimes I really wish I had air tools. Someday.
Attached Images
     
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 10:56 PM   #20
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: Daverods project 66

Geez Dave If we split the cost of the tools it would not be too bad .. the killer part would be the 300 miles of air line we would need to share stuff .
I hope you did not Jinx my compressor.......... it started making strange noises today and seemed to take a long time to reach pressure..kinda sounded like the valves might be going bad .
It has every right to quit... it is an old Montgomery -Wards working on it's second tank. The first tank finally rusted out
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #21
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Put a new filter and seal on my transmission. Bought a new flex plate. Learned why you put a fuse in the line going to the choke.
Attached Images
     
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 11:16 PM   #22
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Today started off sucking and went down hill from there. Piece of metal got suck in my carb. took it off and cleaned the jet out. Forgot to hook the choke wire back up.smoke: Went for a test drive. Smoke was so thick could'nt see out the window. Fixed that. Then I tried to remove what I thought was the seal in my "old transmission". By the time I figured out it was'nt the seal I was changing it was to late. Good thing I had a extra trans. Any ideas of what I did to the "old trans".
Attached Images
  
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 11:25 PM   #23
scotts62
One day...
 
scotts62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tuttle, Ok
Posts: 9,240
Re: Daverods project 66

Holy crap what did you pull out of there its guts??
__________________
Scott

93 crew cab build
Project 62
scotts62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2010, 11:31 PM   #24
daverod
SSN 706
 
daverod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pocatello Idaho
Posts: 3,821
Re: Daverods project 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by scotts62 View Post
Holy crap what did you pull out of there its guts??
To tell you the truth I don't know what I pulled out. It started with a screw driver and ended with vise grips and a hammer. What ever is in back is the seal is ah, half hanging out.

Last edited by daverod; 05-23-2010 at 11:54 PM.
daverod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2010, 07:00 PM   #25
ruffrida2005
Member of the longbed union.
 
ruffrida2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Killeen, Tx
Posts: 2,158
Re: Daverods project 66

looks like you just pulled the guts of the seal out. Go get another one and put it in.
__________________
Paul

88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400

64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it!

92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759
ruffrida2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com