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Old 10-27-2010, 09:16 AM   #1
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Looks great man! It's those little things though that sometimes make the biggest impacts.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:11 PM   #2
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

This truck is getting better and better. Look forward each day for new improvements.
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:33 PM   #3
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Sweet dog!
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:55 PM   #4
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

The lab's are great dog's, he's coming up on 2 yrs old and is easily the best dog we've ever had.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:04 AM   #5
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Nice truck you have
can you tell me what size of flat bed you have ?
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:52 AM   #6
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Yessir! A good dog, and a dually! Doesn't get much better than that. I'm enjoying your truck, nice old rig!

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Old 10-29-2010, 12:49 AM   #7
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks Tim, he loves cruising the 58 with the full, in-the-face, wind effect on each side

DG, the beds about 7' 5" wide by 9' 5" long to the outside of the rub rails.
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:16 AM   #8
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Picked up the engine from the machine shop Fri. and started bolting some stuff on...
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:41 AM   #9
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

That's purdy!
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:52 AM   #10
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Sweet that looks awesome!
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:48 AM   #11
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Picked up the engine from the machine shop Fri. and started bolting some stuff on...
Rockie, that powerplant is looking good. I love shiny. What are the specs on it?? The dark charcoal block color works for me (hmmmm... gets a guy thinking).
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:46 PM   #12
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

I hear you on the shiny, I didn't really plan it all that way but when you're out shopping for stuff and the shiny is only a few dollars more...I couldn't resist.

I like the idea of a charcoal colored block...shoulda thought of that. This is just a black block, not the greatest coverage though.

This engine was pretty clean but still needed a going through. I didn't want to drop big bucks into it, so reused as much as we could. Stock pistons/rods were in good shape as were cylinders, so no overbore...just rehone cylinders after vatting and magnafluxing the block. We did use ARP fasteners throughout along with milling both the heads and block a bit...as much for a true, clean seal surface as for bumping the compression a little...probably around 8.25 to 1 or so. All new bearings/seals/freeze plugs/rings of course, balanced the rotating assy, degree the cam, micro polish the crank, line bore (one main was a smidge tight). A "performance" valve job, well as much as possible with peanut ports , bronze valve guides, 3/8 push rods w/ new guide plates.
We used the basic Edelbrock Performer package with their #2162 cam (218*/228* @.050 and .295/.295 in/ex), the #2161 intake, and a #1411 750 cfm square bore carb.
Dropped a MSD Street fire dist in with 8mm Taylor wires and found a inexpensive set of no-name block huggers (on clearance at a local speed shop - we'll see how long they last).
We think this will be a good match for the SM465 (and 4.10 R&P) we'll be using.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:59 AM   #13
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go big or go home !!!
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:38 AM   #14
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CONGRATS on TOTM!!!!!
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:49 PM   #15
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Your engine looks sweet!!!!
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:06 AM   #16
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Very nice engine.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:27 AM   #17
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thank you, thank you, thank you...and thank you

Dropped a bit more on the engine...
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:36 AM   #18
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

very nice, call me if it doesnt fit... it might fit in mine...
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:11 AM   #19
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You have one sweet truck. I love it and I'm not even a fan of the big trucks, LOL. That engine looks great.
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:07 AM   #20
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You have one sweet truck. I love it and I'm not even a fan of the big trucks, LOL. That engine looks great.
Thanks!

Now this is a happy garage...
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:49 AM   #21
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this keeps getting better
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:56 PM   #22
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Very nice! This will be a killer rig! Now, I have a couple questions for you.

Did you build the diff covers?
What kind of paint did you use on the front axle? I've been using Krylon lately, and for the money it sucks. I switched over to VHT and it seems to be a better product for spray bomb.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:57 PM   #23
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Looks great! Id also like to know what kind of paint you used. Ive had good luck with rustoleum gloss black out of the can(gallon).
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:42 AM   #24
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks, it's starting to come together. I almost don't want to take it down for the conversion...been enjoying it quite a bit using it like it is, but it's about that time. We're really hoping that we can get it in and out this winter and be running again by early spring.

I've had good luck with Rustoleum gloss black enamel (rattle can) and tend to use that most of the time.

Diff covers and spring plates were sourced from RuffStuff...lots of good parts there.

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Old 11-17-2010, 08:53 PM   #25
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Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings.
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