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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
This information is so useful!!! I am curious if this will work for my 52 C-10. I purchased a '88 1500 for the 350 crate motor and the 5 speed manual transmission. I want to stay with 6 lug on the '52. Can I use the '88 truck for my conversion?
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
If i have a 73-87 front end. What rotors will interchange with these spindles so i will have 5 4-1/2 or 5 4-3/4" bolt pattern? My wheels are both bolt patterns.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I'm not that familar with the '49-'55 truck frames, so I'm not sure what to say at this point. What is the width of the frame directly above the front axle.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I know this has been beat to death on this site but, can someone please give me the face to face width on the front end & rear end of my 64 with drums? Also the same dimensions for the 73-87 front end rotors & rear end drums. I am trying to figure different wheels and backspacing configurations.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
The rears are 62" and 63-1/2". I have never measured the fronts.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I'll see if I can remember to measure a couple front suspensions I have at the shop tomorrow.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
adapter sleeve that mates your original inner tie rod to the later model outer tie rod
does anyone know where to buy this at |
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
The guys that use them get them from CPP, ECE and maybe POL. There are ways around buying those. One is to simply upgrade the entire steering linkage to the '73-'87 parts. Another way, but I haven't confirmed this, is to change your inner tierods to the ES2020L tierods. These will mate up with the '73-'87 outer tierods with the '73-'87 adjusting sleeve. But like I said, I haven't confirmed that those inners will fit the taper in the '63-'70 draglink.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
i just wanted to make it as cheap as i can. by changing the spindels and the upper and lower tie rod
and using the adapters was the cheaper way. others wise im going to have to replace and buy ever single item i want to upgrade to disc but im on a budget if someone has a link to those adapter sleeve would be great! |
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
here's what i've found to be the easiest: Early Classic Enterprises has a spindle that works with the stock 64-66 suspension. I've grabbed calipers, booster, master and small parts from a 80 G-20 van. Yard parts=$50. Dropped spindles and 6 lug 1 1/4 rotors+dust caps, bearings, etc small pieces=500. So for $550 I will upgrade everything. If I went to 5 lug I could subtract about 130 from that total of new parts.
Freaking gorgeous pieces from ECE. can't wait to get my spindles. The extra benefit is that they are 12" rotors, not the 10" found in some of the kits. Massive freaking rotors. I'll post pics of the upgrade when I have all the parts. ![]() |
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I looked for those adapter adjusting sleeves but couldn'r find them....I know I've seen them before, and have seen guys on here using them. Maybe one of them will chime in. Seems to me they were a little $$. You might check into the cost on those inner tierods I listed above, plus a pair of stock '73-'87 adjusting sleeves, and see how they compare to the adapter sleeves cost wise.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I did get around to measuring a couple of front suspensions. Bear in mind that these were both 'unloaded' suspensions, so the actual width in the driving position will be slightly wider. Plus I couldn't get a real accurate measurement with where they were.
So the '63-'70 C10 front drum brake suspension measures 62" WMS to WMS. The '73-'87 C10 front disc brake suspension measures 63.5". So they appear to be basically the same width as the rear differentials for the respective years. Quote:
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and i have an assit power steering. which i dont really need to upgrade that front 84 clip i have need to be overhauled i need to buy every for it on top of that i still need adapter for the power steering and for the power brake boosterplus..its adding up! |
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
You might try sending a PM to JGross. I was just looking at a pic of his front steering, and it looks like he may have bought what you're looking for.
Here is where the pic is....... http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=416069
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
i need help with front suspension. my 66 gmc has 8 lugs drums and im on a really tigth budget i need a simple list of parts to make it a 6 lug.i want to keep my crossmember and control arm other then that i need to find out how to bolt it in. im new to my 66 gmc c1500 3/4 ton first time drum to disc brake swap
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
IMO this would be the most cost effective way for you to get 6 lug front disc brakes. It should be a fairly complete list of parts needed. You should be able to use your C20 lower control arms since the '67-'72's mount differently.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
ive just search each part number and some were incorrect part numbers and the rest were exact parts listed
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
OOOOk, which ones are you saying are incorrect part numbers?
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
the only one i think was the inner and utter beaaring a seal br3 and 5 with to brake shoes and 19984 inner seal went to another part but the rest were ok
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
Well I just looked this up again, and of course O'Reilly's have changed to their brands of parts. All of these part numbers were for the brand of parts that were on the site when they were CSK. So since they no longer carry CR seals, I couldn't verify that part number, but I can check on that tomorrow. As for the bearings, it still shows a set #5 for the inner and a set #3 for the outer. The only difference is the prefix has changed to a 'A' from a 'BR' due to the brand change.
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
thanks captain
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Re: Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread
I checked on that part number for the seal, and that is the correct one.
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