POLL: Holley? Q-jet? or Edelbrock? Let's finish this once and for all!!!!

[1LOW4X4]

Originally Posted by rustyrodknocker

for anyone that still thinks the q jet is complicated or just wants to learn more about them buy or steal a copy of Rochester Quadrajet Carburetors . It's a SA design book sa113 writen by Cliff Ruggles isbn-13:978-1932494-18-1. This guy is a qjet guru and one of the best if not the best technical writers I have ever read.

Thank you for that

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by rustyrodknocker

if not the best technical writers I have ever read.

Ever heard of David Vizard?

[1LOW4X4]

Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

Ever heard of David Vizard?

Let me guess, hes a holley guy....

[prostreetC-10]

He is the best techincal writer hands down......just google him!

Of course he's scary with Holley's because he's about POWER.....and you don't build big and I mean big HP with the Ed's or the jets. Please don't come back with the 500 HP Q-jet motor. I said BIG power.

BTW....where are the blow thru Q-jets??? This carb was posted over in the "engine and drive train" forum a couple of weeks ago but I guess it's time to bring it over here so the over 1,500 viewer that haven't commented can see how you make BIG power. This is on a street driven 427 small block. Pro-charged and making a tad over 900 hp on pump gas.

Yes I realize I'm getting carried away. A performance comparison between Holley and Q-jet is not a fair one.

(man....I'm a sore loser).

[Jacfourteen]

Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

He is the best techincal writer hands down......just google him!

Of course he's scary with Holley's because he's about POWER.....and you don't build big and I mean big HP with the Ed's or the jets. Please don't come back with the 500 HP Q-jet motor. I said BIG power.

BTW....where are the blow thru Q-jets??? This carb was posted over in the "engine and drive train" forum a couple of weeks ago but I guess it's time to bring it over here so the over 1,500 viewer that haven't commented can see how you make BIG power. This is on a street driven 427 small block. Pro-charged and making a tad over 900 hp on pump gas.

Yes I realize I'm getting carried away. A performance comparison between Holley and Q-jet is not a fair one.

(man....I'm a sore loser).

That's a pretty serious looking carb! What cfm is it?

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by Jacfourteen

That's a pretty serious looking carb! What cfm is it?

It's a 950 cfm with high sheer billet annular boosters. It has boost ported shaft sealing so the pressure goes down rather than out the shafts.

Need to give props to my buddy Paul at Superflow Carburetor Systems in NY.

It is his creation.

[alsohim]

For drive-ability Q-Jet. Smaller primary means good on gas but huge secondaries making 670 CFM!

Kaleb

[prostreetC-10]

Yeah right.....
Just want to make sure at least the stock plain spring is in the rear to slow down the secondaries. That booster config with the 3310 will be good. The straight leg is positioned a little higher in the venturi to slow the signal just a tad which is what you will want on that semi truck. High gears and no converter with big tires will have an effect. One thing I like about the 3310 is that is has big PVCRs like and 850. Will help with part throttle hesitation has you are trying to move that train. A slightly bigger PVCR will also allow you to run a little leaner cruise A/F ratio to help with mileage.......but not a ton. I certainly cannot tell you how it will work without being in my hands.

[prostreetC-10]

I guess I should have been more clear. Yes....500 is a lot of power for the street ('specially if she's RWH). As far as a carb's ability to to "help" a motor make power....500 is not a lot to me. Bottom line is the Holley will take over when the lil Q-jet is exhausted. It's not really up for debate. I also don't build carbs to get your grandma to the grocery store. You wanna run NOS? You need blow thru? Looking to finish off that 6/71? Get yer self a Holley!

I'm actually surprised we are in second place. I figured we'd be dead last on a truck forum!!

ALSOHIM: I really dig the look of that truck!!! That is the perfect weathered look for a DD or a work truck.

[1LOW4X4]

Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

Bottom line is the Holley will take over when the lil Q-jet is exhausted. It's not really up for debate.

The why in the hell did you ask us? Basically what it boils down to is that you are a Holley fanboy and think everyone needs to be.

I think a Ford is a rolling disaster but I dont try to convert their drivers! To each his own.

I really dont have a big preference in these choices...The only reason I chose Q-jet is because its whats on my trucks and the damn thing works good and my family has always been able to make em sing. But I find it hilarious that you just wont let the argument die!

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by 1LOW4X4

The why in the hell did you ask us? Basically what it boils down to is that you are a Holley fanboy and think everyone needs to be.

I think a Ford is a rolling disaster but I dont try to convert their drivers! To each his own.

Ummmm.......If you check my post #79, I said I was having a lot of fun with this thread. I look at is as "banter". Here is the def for you:

ban·ter/ˈbantər/
Verb: Talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way: "the men bantered with the waitresses"; "a bantering tone".
Noun: The playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks. More »
Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

If I like Skidoo and my bud likes Polaris....we will kid each other. That's all that's going on there. I've been around these guys a lot longer than you and we get to kidding and having fun. I really don't think anyone is taking any of this too seriously.....except.....well.......

Maybe you should scoot yourself over to the 1986+ forum huh?

[1LOW4X4]

Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

Ummmm.......If you check my post #79, I said I was having a lot of fun with this thread. I look at is as "banter". Here is the def for you:

ban·ter/ˈbantər/
Verb: Talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way: "the men bantered with the waitresses"; "a bantering tone".
Noun: The playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks. More »
Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

If I like Skidoo and my bud likes Polaris....we will kid each other. That's all that's going on there. I've been around these guys a lot longer than you and we get to kidding and having fun. I really don't think anyone is taking any of this too seriously.....except.....well.......

Maybe you should scoot yourself over to the 1986+ forum huh?

Not buying it. You got butthurt and in between your posts you have been trying to hide it by saying you are "enjoying" it. As I recall Q-jets came on a LOT more than 67-72's....

Holley lost, get over it. Its not up for debate, old man

[68Stepbed]

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised Holleys are in second place here. When I first put the 350 in my truck, I listened to everybody else that said Holleys were junk and to get an Edelbrock. Well, I got one. It ran perfect for about 3 months(right when the 90 day warranty was out), then it would spit, sputter, stall, was hard to start after warmed up, burned your eyes while idleing, and just plain old didn't have the pep it had when new. I had a guy take it apart and clean it. It did ok for a week. I ended up trading it for a rebuilt one. After about a month it did the same thing. So, I bought another new one. It was the same as the first new one. It ran great for 3 months(when warranty was out) then started the same crap. It would occasionally stumble a die under WOT. The last straw was when I went to pull out into kinda heavy traffic, it died when I put my foot in it and pulled into the left lane. It almost got me run over. I went the next day and bought a Holley. No more stumbling, no more stalling, no more rich idle, and it ran alot better than the Edelburp did when new.

My last Edelbrock was on my 86 with a 305. The electronic Q-jet crapped out and I had to have a new carb. I wanted a Holley, but nobody had one. Also, if I were to get an Eddy, I wanted a 500, but nobdy had one and it would've been 3-4 days before getting one, and I need something right then. I ended up buying a 1406. It did the exact same crap the other 3 did. It ran good(despite being too big for the 305) for exactly 3 months, then went to crap again. I'm 0-4 on 1406 Edelbrocks and 4-0 on Holleys

Now, that said, the only good Edelbrock I've had was a 500 cfm that I traded with a co-worker to put on my 66 truck with a stock 350. That carb ran perfect, and was a great match to the stock 350. It was almost like having a EFI engine.

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by 68Stepbed

Well, I got one. It ran perfect for about 3 months(right when the 90 day warranty was out), then it would spit, sputter, stall, was hard to start after warmed up, burned your eyes while idleing, and just plain old didn't have the pep it had when new. I had a guy take it apart and clean it. It did ok for a week. I ended up trading it for a rebuilt one. After about a month it did the same thing. So, I bought another new one. It was the same as the first new one. It ran great for 3 months(when warranty was out) then started the same crap.

The Ed's have a little computer chip in the bottom of the base plate that you HAVE to remove if you want them to run past the 90 day warranty period.

[68Stepbed]

Originally Posted by prostreetC-10

The Ed's have a little computer chip in the bottom of the base plate that you HAVE to remove if you want them to run past the 90 day warranty period.

Oh, that's the secret. They must put in the directions, but they didn't show a picture, so.......

[Gene]

Edelbrock. Had them all, put an Edelbrock on and havent touched it in 10 years.

[JuicyJ]

I voted holley because it is what works for me.

[1LOW4X4]

You could always start a new thread on what carb is good for "BIG POWER" LMAO

Your turn....And I like the definitions in your comebacks, you really do your research

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by 1LOW4X4

Your turn....And I like the definitions in your comebacks, you really do your research

I figured if I didn't post the definition of "banter", you might think I was talking about one of Santa's reindeer... lil guy!

For those of you that know me.....I'm going to shut down my Holley business now. They are just not what I thought they were.

[ebry710]

You can see why there is so many opinions. Apparently, each of the three major carburetors work. Each has their following.

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by ebry710

You can see why there is so many opinions. Apparently, each of the three major carburetors work. Each has their following.

Of course they all work well. If they didn't, they'd have a website like the "preditor" carb.

[ebry710]

To be honest, I did not expect the evenness of the poll. I had assumed after 40 years, one of these carburetors would have been found superior.

[prostreetC-10]

Originally Posted by ebry710

To be honest, I did not expect the evenness of the poll. .

Boy me neither. With Holley's "tempermental" reputation, I figured it would get some vote but not nudge out the Ed's. I was sure them (Eds) and the Jets would be battling it out for first.

[prostreetC-10]

We need a tie breaker......

[71meangreenc10]

Edelbrock all day long....Have a Q-Jet on my shortbed, but once it goes, a 1406 will go on. Very simple for me to tune and rebuild.

Wont use Holley, bad history with me

Smitty