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*CWT* · 07-01-2009, 03:47 PM

Im kinda catching the end of this build. But why did you cut the floor out instead of droppin the engine mounts? I am getting geared up to do this on my 64 and use stock susp. Already seen it done on a friends truck and it worked out great. He cut a set of mounts down to lower the engine the same amount as the notch and it worked out great.

hAetWagon · 07-11-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CWT

Im kinda catching the end of this build. But why did you cut the floor out instead of droppin the engine mounts? I am getting geared up to do this on my 64 and use stock susp. Already seen it done on a friends truck and it worked out great. He cut a set of mounts down to lower the engine the same amount as the notch and it worked out great.

I was wondering this myself..

HotRodYJ · 07-13-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hAetWagon

I was wondering this myself..

I raised the trans tunnel 5", same amount as the crossmember move.

Mordachai · 07-01-2009, 05:30 PM

phenomenal build. Keep it up!

joe231 · 07-11-2009, 04:46 PM

when you notch your cross-member the engine stays in the same place...if you Z the frame it moves everything up

oops I forgot this notch is different.....here is how to do it with out moving the engine up
http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/chopcross.html

hAetWagon · 07-13-2009, 12:28 PM

I gathered that. Why didn't you keep the motor mounts at the same height?

HotRodYJ · 07-13-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hAetWagon

I gathered that. Why didn't you keep the motor mounts at the same height?

100 different ways to do anything. 5" seemed like alot to try to out of motor mounts. I did not pancake the crossmemebr at all.

hAetWagon · 07-13-2009, 02:34 PM

Understood.

royo · 08-12-2009, 07:04 PM

any updates

HotRodYJ · 10-15-2009, 01:40 PM

Figure I better update before this thread drops off the radar. Still muddleing thru the body work. I've been making myself work even an hour a month on it, but I'm finally nearing the end. Almost to final primer stage on the cab, doors, front end, etc. Won't be long now I hope.

I scored a complete serpentine belt set-up and accessories off of an 84 Camaro. This give me PS, high output Alt, A/C, etc in a nice clean modern package and best of all it was FREE!!. So I pulled out my York compressor and started looking for a serp pulley for it. Too much money to buy new so I looked at other options. I ended up taking the smog pump pulley (from the Camaro set-up) and it happens to be almost the same size as the York V-belt pulley. Took it to my Dad's lathe and cut the outer ring off of the spare serpentine pullley, then turned down the OD of the V-belt York pully so the serp outer ring would slip on it and welded them together. Took 30 minutes, worked like a charm and saved me even more money. Luckily both pulleys where nice heavy solid units and not the cheap sheet metal pulleys. Made me some homemade mounts and the York now resides on the front of my motor awaiting a new longer belt.

With any luck, in two weeks I hope to order the sheet metal for bed sides and rear fender extension pieces so we can really see what this thing is going to look like for real.

joe231 · 10-15-2009, 02:26 PM

Sounds cool.... But as you are well aware...... We need pics

smbrouss70 · 10-15-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HotRodYJ

I scored a complete serpentine belt set-up and accessories off of an 84 Camaro. This give me PS, high output Alt, A/C, etc in a nice clean modern package and best of all it was FREE!!. So I pulled out my York compressor and started looking for a serp pulley for it. Too much money to buy new so I looked at other options. I ended up taking the smog pump pulley (from the Camaro set-up) and it happens to be almost the same size as the York V-belt pulley. Took it to my Dad's lathe and cut the outer ring off of the spare serpentine pullley, then turned down the OD of the V-belt York pully so the serp outer ring would slip on it and welded them together. Took 30 minutes, worked like a charm and saved me even more money. Luckily both pulleys where nice heavy solid units and not the cheap sheet metal pulleys. Made me some homemade mounts and the York now resides on the front of my motor awaiting a new longer belt.

Can you post some pics of this, I've been thinking about doing something similar.

HotRodYJ · 10-16-2009, 03:51 PM

LOL... I'd be glad to post some pics if I could find where my wife hid the camera. It's never in the same place twice, so I can never find it.

HotRodYJ · 10-18-2009, 12:01 PM

joe231 · 10-18-2009, 12:16 PM

Have you test fit the engine with the York in your frame? Looks like it might hit the frame....

HotRodYJ · 12-29-2009, 09:58 PM

Both fenders are now stretched and I built one bedside today. Goal is to have the bed basically together and maybe sitting on the truck by end of the weekend. We'll see.

Also got 4 new air bags ordered along with a long skinny 5 gallon air tank that will go behind the rocker panel outboard of the frame rail on passenger side. Should be here by end of week.

HotRodYJ · 10-18-2009, 03:15 PM

I did take measuremements. In my set-up it will be very close to the upper control arm bushing but yes it should fit. Remember my motor sits higher above the frame rail than anyone elses.

joe231 · 10-18-2009, 06:48 PM

Oh yeah
I didn't realize it sat that much higher...

HotRodYJ · 10-18-2009, 08:39 PM

Fits like a glove...

joe231 · 10-18-2009, 08:48 PM

Very nice!!!

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 10-18-2009, 09:07 PM

Very cool man that ride is really progressing..

Tagg33 · 10-19-2009, 10:52 PM

The York looks great there, too bad we all can't put it there.

Frizzle Fry · 10-20-2009, 01:09 AM

Three-deuces and a serp, very cool! Nice job on the York mount and pulleys.

Tagg33 · 10-20-2009, 01:14 AM

Do York's have to be mounted vertically like you have it or could it be 90 degrees left or right too? Seems like every York I have seen mounted is vertical does that have to do with the internal oiling?

HotRodYJ · 10-20-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tagg33

Do York's have to be mounted vertically like you have it or could it be 90 degrees left or right too? Seems like every York I have seen mounted is vertical does that have to do with the internal oiling?

From everything I have read they can be mounted either way and I initially planned on laying it horizontal, but then if you think about the oil laying in the crankcase portion of the thing, just laying there on it's side it seems to me the oil would tend to leak past the piston and into the chambers. In my mind vertical is the best way so this can't happen.

07-01-2009, 03:47 PM	#1
CWT Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ARAB,ALABAMA Posts: 157	Re: Cross Member Drop? Im kinda catching the end of this build. But why did you cut the floor out instead of droppin the engine mounts? I am getting geared up to do this on my 64 and use stock susp. Already seen it done on a friends truck and it worked out great. He cut a set of mounts down to lower the engine the same amount as the notch and it worked out great.

07-01-2009, 05:30 PM	#4
Mordachai Fat Fendered Fleetside Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WPB, S. FL, USA, Earth Posts: 718	Re: Cross Member Drop? phenomenal build. Keep it up! __________________ 71 GMC lwb 56 Big window swb 93 GMC Sonoma (dd) radiused fiberglass fender project for 67-72

07-11-2009, 04:46 PM	#5
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Cross Member Drop? when you notch your cross-member the engine stays in the same place...if you Z the frame it moves everything up oops I forgot this notch is different.....here is how to do it with out moving the engine up http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/chopcross.html __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 07-11-2009 at 04:48 PM.

07-13-2009, 12:28 PM	#6
hAetWagon Schlongbed MEMBER (heh)#15 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento Posts: 232	Re: Cross Member Drop? I gathered that. Why didn't you keep the motor mounts at the same height? __________________ 82 Chevy Blazer 4wd.RIP 1965 Chevy C10,350V8 Get it reliable,then puttin' it in the weeds.. "Old truck, all new headaches."

07-13-2009, 02:34 PM	#8
hAetWagon Schlongbed MEMBER (heh)#15 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento Posts: 232	Re: Cross Member Drop? Understood. __________________ 82 Chevy Blazer 4wd.RIP 1965 Chevy C10,350V8 Get it reliable,then puttin' it in the weeds.. "Old truck, all new headaches."

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10-15-2009, 01:40 PM	#10
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? Figure I better update before this thread drops off the radar. Still muddleing thru the body work. I've been making myself work even an hour a month on it, but I'm finally nearing the end. Almost to final primer stage on the cab, doors, front end, etc. Won't be long now I hope. I scored a complete serpentine belt set-up and accessories off of an 84 Camaro. This give me PS, high output Alt, A/C, etc in a nice clean modern package and best of all it was FREE!!. So I pulled out my York compressor and started looking for a serp pulley for it. Too much money to buy new so I looked at other options. I ended up taking the smog pump pulley (from the Camaro set-up) and it happens to be almost the same size as the York V-belt pulley. Took it to my Dad's lathe and cut the outer ring off of the spare serpentine pullley, then turned down the OD of the V-belt York pully so the serp outer ring would slip on it and welded them together. Took 30 minutes, worked like a charm and saved me even more money. Luckily both pulleys where nice heavy solid units and not the cheap sheet metal pulleys. Made me some homemade mounts and the York now resides on the front of my motor awaiting a new longer belt. With any luck, in two weeks I hope to order the sheet metal for bed sides and rear fender extension pieces so we can really see what this thing is going to look like for real. __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902 Last edited by HotRodYJ; 10-15-2009 at 01:42 PM.

10-15-2009, 02:26 PM	#11
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Cross Member Drop? Sounds cool.... But as you are well aware...... We need pics __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

10-16-2009, 03:51 PM	#13
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? LOL... I'd be glad to post some pics if I could find where my wife hid the camera. It's never in the same place twice, so I can never find it. __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902

10-18-2009, 12:01 PM	#14
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902 Last edited by HotRodYJ; 10-19-2009 at 07:25 AM.

10-18-2009, 12:16 PM	#15
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Cross Member Drop? Have you test fit the engine with the York in your frame? Looks like it might hit the frame.... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-29-2009, 09:58 PM	#16
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? Both fenders are now stretched and I built one bedside today. Goal is to have the bed basically together and maybe sitting on the truck by end of the weekend. We'll see. Also got 4 new air bags ordered along with a long skinny 5 gallon air tank that will go behind the rocker panel outboard of the frame rail on passenger side. Should be here by end of week. __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902 Last edited by HotRodYJ; 12-29-2009 at 10:48 PM.

10-18-2009, 03:15 PM	#17
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? I did take measuremements. In my set-up it will be very close to the upper control arm bushing but yes it should fit. Remember my motor sits higher above the frame rail than anyone elses. __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902

10-18-2009, 06:48 PM	#18
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Cross Member Drop? Oh yeah I didn't realize it sat that much higher... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

10-18-2009, 08:39 PM	#19
HotRodYJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 264	Re: Cross Member Drop? Fits like a glove... __________________ 66 Chevy Stepside tandem project My junk: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480902 Last edited by HotRodYJ; 10-19-2009 at 07:23 AM.



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joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Cross Member Drop? Very nice!!! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

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Tagg33 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 247	Re: Cross Member Drop? Do York's have to be mounted vertically like you have it or could it be 90 degrees left or right too? Seems like every York I have seen mounted is vertical does that have to do with the internal oiling? __________________ Ryan 84 SWB, C4 IFS Crossmember, C4 IRS, RE7 bags, WCC 3pc 22"s My reBuild: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346328

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