My 56 6bt 4X4 build.

[Luther Grimace]

[QUOTE=6BT 56;5872767] My new alt is cool. I took the one that was on truck and the local electric guy made it 1 wire hook up. It's maken 14.7 Volts and 124 amps. That will do the trick !
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How did he do this? I gotta get this done too.

[6BT 56]

Ok so I need to vent here . Grrr. If I call you and you have 4 90 % tread old style bfg mt and I say sold, dosent that mean I want them ?????? The guy was 6 hr away. I offer to pay for them on my visa , but his shop didnt take credit cards . I told him I would have a truck there today at 12 to pick them up and pay cash. Then when i called yesaterday to get dir for my buddie who was going to be out that way he said he just sold them !!!! WHAT !!!!! Like the only set in north america and he sells them after I say sold . didnt even bicker on price . Gave him exactly what he wanted .

Some people . I hope what goes around comes around!. Anyways I hope everyone else is havin a better wknd that I am. On a better note I did get a smoken deal on a skidoo yesterday . I needed that like a hole in the head but the boys will have fun on it im sure.

Sorry for the rant but I thought you guys would understand better than anyone else ! Lol.

[duallyjams]

Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Ok so I need to vent here . Grrr. If I call you and you have 4 90 % tread old style bfg mt and I say sold, dosent that mean I want them ?????? The guy was 6 hr away. I offer to pay for them on my visa , but his shop didnt take credit cards . I told him I would have a truck there today at 12 to pick them up and pay cash. Then when i called yesaterday to get dir for my buddie who was going to be out that way he said he just sold them !!!! WHAT !!!!! Like the only set in north america and he sells them after I say sold . didnt even bicker on price . Gave him exactly what he wanted .

Some people . I hope what goes around comes around!. Anyways I hope everyone else is havin a better wknd that I am. On a better note I did get a smoken deal on a skidoo yesterday . I needed that like a hole in the head but the boys will have fun on it im sure.

Sorry for the rant but I thought you guys would understand better than anyone else ! Lol.

we all have got bitten before / I just chalk it up to it wasn't meant to be

[6BT 56]

So a little more to report today. The eng is back in for another test fit.

The crossmember is where I wanted it to be and position of the eng is good too. I got my intake tube figured out today as well. I have to cut 2 inches out then Im good to go.

I think the eng will be in for a bit this time. I'd like to get the hyd clutch all good to go and check the exh for fit around the firewall. Will likely do some minor adjusting on electrical as well to make sure everything is good and the eng can stay in the hole next time. It's touch and go installing this much eng with a eng hoist !

A few pics .. Enjoy

[1985-GMC]

That green isn't bad at all. Looking good sitting in there too!

[Luther Grimace]

Where did you get the Detroit Green paint from?

[6BT 56]

Hey Luther . The detriot green was easy ! The local parts store ( napa ) ordered it and had it same day. Got 4 cans . Used 3 saving the last one for when its in the truck for good for some touchup's. Thats good news abt your new eng . Too bad the 5.9's arnt as easy to come by as the militairy 6.2's. Not that I know how to get one but apparently you do !

[Luther Grimace]

Haha even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then!
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[6BT 56]

We got 20 inches of snow on the weeked. Ant no blind hog findin no acorn here !! Not unless he is real good with a snowblower .

[OrrieG]

Here is the steering template and some photos of how mine is set up. Note the tape in on the end or a 58-59 frame which is longer than 55-57. The angle allows the steering box arm to stay parallel to the frame when it rotates. Also, depending on how big of tires you are going to run you will NOT be able to get full lock turning right, the tires will hit the drag link. Not a big deal in town but make turning around on logging roads and parallel parking a challenge. You can also use a jeep box (same box but opposite hand) that mounts on the inside of the frame in front of the crossmember. It uses crossover steering attacked to the tie rod. Some toyoto boxs mount in the same place as stock, but they are getting hard to find. I have also heard but not seen that mid 2000's GM boxes will work in the stock location to. That gets rid of the drag link interference. Also, I bolted thru because the threads on my box were not holding well and I wanted the extra nut to lock everything in place.

[6BT 56]

Hey thanks Orrie .

That helps a lot. I built my spacer /plate last nite. Going to drill some holes tonite and weld it to the frame . Thanks again !!!!

Going to go to the wreckers soon and track down some steering joints to finish it all up.

[Dieselwrencher]

Nice progress! But, now that poor thing is going to start driping like a driptroit.

Word of advice, call auto world in Montana and buy a pair of poly engine mounts. They are like $70ea, but hold power and don't break. Keep up the good work, it does look good. The green will make it look OE to a non knowing person first glance.

[6BT 56]

Hey thanks . Thats a true complement coming from you . Do you know if there is a fuel filter I can use that dosent have the hole i the bottom for the water sensor ? JUst thought since it isnt getting used I would delete it . Also I'd like to know what the solinoid looking thing is on the side of the inj pump. Has a 1/4 ish line going up behind the pump and a electrical spade on the other end.

Sorry to hear abt your tranny. Im sure you will be going in no time .

Thanks again

[Luther Grimace]

I am wondering the same thing about that fuel filter. I wanna delete that wif sensor too. I think that is the KSB or cold start advance. It advances the timing based on the intake air temperature. I think it only works below 40 deg?
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[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Hey thanks . Thats a true complement coming from you . Do you know if there is a fuel filter I can use that dosent have the hole i the bottom for the water sensor ? JUst thought since it isnt getting used I would delete it . Also I'd like to know what the solinoid looking thing is on the side of the inj pump. Has a 1/4 ish line going up behind the pump and a electrical spade on the other end.

Sorry to hear abt your tranny. Im sure you will be going in no time .

Thanks again

Try a FS1251 for the fuel filter. It has no sensor, just a drain in the bottom of it that is part of the filter.

Yes that is the KSB. On the early non ic engines it is a wax controlled valve, then in 91.5 they went to the electric one. On the engine in my 95 F-350, I've never worried about hooking it up. I run high timing and it starts really well in the cold so I haven't worried about it.

[Luther Grimace]

What sort of timing are you running on that F350? Advanced the pumped or skipped a tooth?

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

What sort of timing are you running on that F350? Advanced the pumped or skipped a tooth?

Both. Skipped a tooth and half way to the head.

[Dieselwrencher]

You can get a one wire alt here as well:

http://www.destroked.com/prod_alternators.php

[6BT 56]

Oh man it;s been to long. Finially sumtinn to report. So the frame boxing is done on the drivers side . Eng mounts done. fuel system plumed to the filter and filter installed . Swiched a bunch a electrical around to make neater for the cummins . Got the master for the hyd cutch mounted. Got to fiish boxing the pass side tomorrow . Then to freshen up the paint . Run 1 front brake line and my line lock if i can find it ?????

Hope to install the eng for the last time on sat or sun. Then its all small things after that point . Boats will be launching in a week or 2 here so that will mean no extera time for me till way into the summer. So glad to have all the big stuff out of the way. Seemed to take forever to get to this point .

Also foud a few of the day I found it . The time spent sitting in pondering if I sould pop on it . My helper said go for it . My how time flys !

Here are a few pics.

[Luther Grimace]

Are you getting close to your fuel tank mods? If so I would recommend not drilling the holes in the pickup tube for it to act as a return. I believe that is where a lot of my problem is coming from of my truck not running. I completely filled the tank to the brim with fuel and it actually will run now. Still has a miss but I have narrowed it down to the number 2 injector. Just gonna give you a heads up on that return line situation.
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[6BT 56]

Hey Luther. thanks for the heads up . i was going to do like you did then when I decided to use the raycor fuel filter I found it had 2 inlets. What I have done is to use the 1 line from tank to the filer. just like stock. I will run the return line from the eng into the filter which is mounted on the firewall. then the feed line just comes from the filter to the eng. I hope it works . works well in my head anyway. lol. Glad to hear you are maken headway. you have come so far , you deserve a break !. i will have my eng in in a few hrs . got the frame boxed yesterday. Painted and just have to boly a few things on and will be good to go this aft. Hope to have it running by sun aft. Not drivig , just running .

Hey you might know this , The splined adapter from my
getrag tarns to my 205 is getting tired. Its in there for now but will need to do b4 too long. Where can I get one of those ?

[6BT 56]

Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

Are you getting close to your fuel tank mods? If so I would recommend not drilling the holes in the pickup tube for it to act as a return. I believe that is where a lot of my problem is coming from of my truck not running. I completely filled the tank to the brim with fuel and it actually will run now. Still has a miss but I have narrowed it down to the number 2 injector. Just gonna give you a heads up on that return line situation.
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Well here we go . I am having problems as well. I know it is just air but I think it should be bled by now. now Im wondering if My return line back into the filter is going to work .

At leas it's in for good now . Do up a trans crossmember Some driveshafts and put the front tin bak on. If i can make it run that is .

[6BT 56]

Yep lots of air . I dont think my return line is going to work. I unhooked it and just let it go ito a bucket and it came around quickly. Im going to have to make my return line go straight to the tank like yours. im using my orginial pickup for the feed tho so I will have to figure out sumtin else to get my return into the tank .

[6BT 56]

So here are some pics of the install. it was nice to see it go i for the last time !!!

My eng hoist cant take all the weight withought falling over so some of you may notice my super smrt way to fix that .

Got the return line plumed into the tank . Running good now . Abt time Lol.

Some pics . Enjoy .

[mud.man.rj]

Just read your whole thread, nice build bet it will will have torque out the ying yang when your done, like the fact your installing it in the old girl. V cool.