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Old 01-19-2015, 10:42 PM   #1
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Love the radiator holder.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:07 AM   #2
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

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Love the radiator holder.
I think it fits the trucks name...
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Nice work, love the direction you took with this truck! Can't wait to LS swap mine.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:33 AM   #4
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

I went to Lowe's last night to get some house stuff. While I was there I looked at some aluminum trim that is labeled as edging for 3/4" plywoood. I had the great idea that I could use that for fabricating mounts for the cooling fans. So for about $15, I got an 8 foot stick and 10 each of a #8 SS machine screws and lock nuts.

I got home and looked at what needed to be done and came up with a plan to make my mounts for the fans. I used a hacksaw, file, drill with a 11/64" bit, and a 6" cresent wrench to make the mounts.

The radiator has a flange on the top and bottom that I made a clamp out of the trim to attach the mounts to the radiator. There are 4 ears on the fan shround that are now attached to the mounts with the screws and notches in one flange of the trim. Here are pics of the what I came up with and where I stopped last night.





The top and bottom edges for the shroud extend past the mounting surface of the channels, so I marked where I need to trim that off at tonight. I need to get some 3/4" wide weather stripping to line the side that sits on the radiator of the mounts and shroud. Once I have that, I will get this whole set up mounted.

Here is where I need to trim:


That's where I cleaned up and called it a night. I will take a picture of how the "clamp" part holds it to the radiator tonight when I get them mounted.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:05 PM   #5
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

just wanted to mention just in case you are not aware, the suburban seat sliders are not the same as the pickup sliders, if your seat is from an 82 you should be fine using 1978-1987 sliders from a 2DR pickup (crew cabs used suburban sliders).

Looks great so far, your helping to convince me to do an LS conversion on one of my trucks in the near future.

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Old 01-27-2015, 11:19 AM   #6
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Worked on the truck a bit more over the weekend. Got hte hood latch to work correctly and its now functional and back on. Finished up the wiring under the dash and put the bezel and dash pad back on. The connector and terminals for the transmission range selector switch came in on Sat. so that part got repaired and put back on. I put on a couple of 4' sections of pipe just after the collectors and fired the truck back up. This time I let it run a full heat cycle to get it up to operating temp and get the cooling system filled with water. With the extra length of pipe and a quart of Lucas oil treatment added to the engine, the troublesome sound I was hearing has gone away. I bet it was just from sitting for a year. The smoking and oil dripping from the exhaust is now gone too.

Major items left to work on are the cooling fans, the transmission cooler and lines, and getting the seat installed. Owen and I worked on the seat a bit on Sunday and relized the sliders that I have will not work with the seat frame and the floor. I think these sliders came from a 1980 Suburban and the seat frame is from a 1982 C10 truck. It looks like to me, the sliders and the seat frame changed some time in the progression of that body style. Should not be an issue IF I can find the correct sliders at the pick your part yard this week.
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:39 AM   #7
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Thanks Sam. I went to the U-pull-it yard on Saturday. I learned a few things about seat sliders. First truck I found with a bench seat in it was about an '83 model. Pulled the seat out and flipped it over. To my suprise the brackets where COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from any that I had seen before. SO, I can tell you from experience that there are ATLEAST 3 different styles of seat sliders for bench seats in these trucks.

I finally found a seat and sliders that where the correct ones that I was looking for. I pulled those and took 'em with me. I should have got the whole seat since the foam was in realy good shape, but I did not want to spend another $100 for the seat...
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Looks great! killer progress.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:34 AM   #9
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

I am getting the itch to drive this thing. Stuff keeps getting in my way of finishing it...

I got a little time last night after work to work on the exhaust for the truck. I was going to reuse the complete exhaust system from Sunburn, but that would not work with the engine placement and trans crossmember on this truck. It also has a big hole just past the X pipe in one tube from the wreck when the drive shaft came out and the yoke poked the hole in the tube.


Since the system would not fit and it has a big hole that would need repair, I decided to cut it up...I used a hose clamp to mark my cut so that I can make a square cut with a cut off wheel in a 4-1/2" grinder. I made the cut just in front of the cut-outs after the X pipe.


After getting them cut apart and the cuts deburred, I figured out where to mount them and measured for the pipe from the header collector to the reused parts. I ended up cutting 2-1/2" off the 48" straight pipes I had. Once all the cuts where made and cleaned up I had both sides of my exhaust made up.


It was dark by this time, so I will hang it and take installed pics later. I think I will make an H pipe for this set up as it will be easier to install and will give me a seat of the pants comparison between X pipe and H pipe for the exact same set up. No dyno numbers to prove anything, but just a feel and sound comparison.
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:11 AM   #10
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Well over the last couple of weeks, I have gotten the exhaust hung under the truck, the rear shock mounts fab'd up and shocks mounted, changed out the bolts in the trans mount for the correct grade 8 ones, and got the seat mounted in the truck.

On Saturday before the weather turned crappy, I was able to take it out for a spin. Seemed to ride OK for now, but noticed that the trans did not work right in 1st or reverse. Took it home and checked the trans fluid (which I had already done once while it was on stands), well it was low. It took 2 quarts to get it full. I was dark by then, so I did not take it back out to see if that was the problem.

Yesterday was the Dayton 500 and I was scheduled to leave for a business trip to Milwaukee, so nothing got done.

Wasted 5 hours going to the airport and having flights delayed and cancelled because of the weather. I decided not to go since I had a flight cancelled and now would miss the whole first day of the training. So, I came home before the weather really got bad. So, this morning its freezing rain here and expected to get worse today. Wife and kids had school cancelled so they are home warm and dry and I'm at work...
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:33 PM   #11
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

On post #43 and 44 u mentioned electronic spedometer that u got. Did u ever hooked it up or I missed that? I got same cluster today but need to hook it up and dont want to use it as learning tool and end up buying another lol. Thanks
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:22 PM   #12
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Mine is hooked up and works, but my PCM needs to be reflashed for the gear change and tire diameter so that it is correct.

I had to swap pins around on the connector in the harness that plugs into the back of the cluster. I do remember that pin #18 is for the speedo and it takes the VSS signal wire from the PCM in that position.

There are other pins that have to be swapped too for the other gauges and the turnsignals and such to work correctly. I don't have the info with me now to post here, but I will see what I can get together tonight...
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:35 PM   #13
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

That cross-member let you run straight pipe from the collectors to the muffs? How much clearance and how low are the collectors?
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Thanks for the reply sir!
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Well I woke up this morning to a small amount of a wintery mix. Looks like about a 1/2" of accumulation. Wife and Kids have a delayed start of school today, but the roads looked good on my way to work.

Thought I would snap a picture as I walked out to my dailly driver...

White Trash looking like Snow White this morning...


Still waiting on my PCM to return. He got it on Monday and we spoke breifly on Tuesday. I should have it by Monday I hope...
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Well, here it goes. This is what I did for the temp sensor, so I was drilling into the water jacket and did NOT want any chips/savings getting into the water jacket.

Since I already had a hole in the head, there was no need to center punch the location.

To keep the chips out, I packed the flutes of the drill bit with wheel bearing grease. Once I started drilling, I went slow and pulled the bit out to check on chip build up. As I checked, I wiped off the chips and replaced the grease as needed. It worked really well.

When I tapped the hole, I did the same thing, pack the flutes of the tap with grease.

I was pleased with the results and looked in with a flash light and did not see any chips inside.


Since you are not taping into a water jacket and each hole should be a blind hole, I would just center punch the location of each hole, drill a pilot hole with a 1/4" drill bit. Step up to the 5/16" drill (drill size for a 3/8"-16 thread). Use a drill stop so you do not go too deep. I think the holes are only 1/2"-3/4" deep. Verify this before drilling...

Tap the hole with the correct taps. SInce it is a blind hole, I would start with a taper tap and go till the tap bottoms out in the hole. Switch to a Bottom Tap and tap the hole again till the tap bottoms out.

I would just cover the rest of the engine and tape off any openings there might be to avoid the potential for any stray chips getting into anything. I do not think you need to use the grease trick...
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Got my PCm back from Zippy Performance yesterday. Got it put back in and seems everything works correctly. I need to verify the speedo calibration, but seemed/felt close...

It's been raining here for what seems like a couple of weeks. Saturday should be OK, but I will be at my daughter's Gym competion, so the truck will just sit....
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Karl, can you share your tuner's info?
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Michael King at Zippy Performance in Las Vagas, NV, (702) 406-0333

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I called him and told him what I needed, boxed up the PCM with a note of the things Ineeded done and my contact info. He charged $200 for the first time I sent it out to him and that included the shipping back. The fix he just did was $60 including the return shipping. Some times he is hard to get a hold of, but he has always called me back.
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

Friday night I took the truck out to take Owen to Baseball practice. Its was still raining so their practice was indoors at the high schools indoor practice area. While I was out, I snapped a few pics of White Trash.





I think the stance came out OK. Here is a straight on shot of the side:


There is still a few quirks I need to work out before this can be a daily driver. It needs a new windsheild, the wipers are REALLY slow, the signal indicators are on when you turn on the headlights but the blinkers do work. The front running lights are both out, but I never changed the bulbs so that could be a simple fix. The interior is still real dirty and it needs something on the floor because it is kinda load inside. I used the floor shifter from Sunburn, but for this truck, I am going to get the column shifter working.

I did not touch it on Sat or Sun, it was family time and my daughters first Gymnastics competition. She placed 4th in vault and 8th in the all around. But scored enought to move up a level for next season! Super happy for her and what she has accomplished!
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

What's that sign in the rear window say?
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What's that sign in the rear window say?
I think it reads "this sign is only here to keep my wife happy"

You guys need to get on him harder to finish this truck! I'm not sure why he keeps telling you guys he's so busy, he's just getting old and running out of energy
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I think it reads "this sign is only here to keep my wife happy"

You guys need to get on him harder to finish this truck! I'm not sure why he keeps telling you guys he's so busy, he's just getting old and running out of energy :haha:
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:38 PM   #24
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

That I am crazy....
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:27 PM   #25
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Re: 2 for 1 Part II...

He better not forget that I know where he sleeps at night...

It is running and drivable, but the speedo is way off. I talked to my tuner, the pcm is set up correctly for my combination, so I need to dig into it a bit further.

Korbin forgets that I am in no real hurry to get it done. I don't have a shop, I don't like to work in the rain, and I sometime just don't want to work on it. I need to sell something so that I can build my shop, but I don't think I can get much for him, nobody wants a smart ass teenager who thinks he knows everything...












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1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues)
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The LST Challenge:
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Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn"
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618

1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305

Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square
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