1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

[rvrfoot]

Like i said a long time ago show pictures.

[Brad54]

That part number on the package shows those are hydraulic roller lifters.

Look, we don't mean to be dicks, but NO Chevy engine came from the factory in the '60s with a roller cam. It just didn't.
I had a VERY good friend who was a factory-backed Super Stock and Pro Stock racer in the '60s and '70s... he was so good, he was one of only 69 people to get a 1969 ZL1 Camaro, which is the most desirable Camaro built.
He raced a 327 in the '70s... he did not use a roller cam, because it didn't exist then in factory applications. If it did, he'd have run one.

So I think what's happening here, is that your engine shop is screwing you.
To convert an engine over to roller cam, there's a lot you have to do to the heads--they'll have to elongate the pushrod holes, machine the rocker stud bosses for screw-in rocker arm studs and pushrod guide plates, and machine the spring pockets to accept the larger springs required to run a roller cam.

I know, because I've documented all that work on a set of double-hump heads of an engine I built.

That work is going to add a BUNCH of money to your machine shop bill.
If those things have NOT been done to your heads, there is absolutely no way it is an original roller cam engine. A roller cam MUST have those things, or the engine will destroy itself.

Going forward, it seems very, VERY unlikely you have a high-horse corvette engine in front of a 2-speed PowerGlide in a '66 Truck.
I wouldn't be surprised to see double-hump heads, Everyone thinks that automatically means Corvette, but it doesn't.
But as someone else pointed out, if it is a Corvette engine, it will have to have an aluminum intake and 4-barrel carburetor.

I don't want to be a dick, or the bearer of bad news, but I suspect your machine shop is being dishonest.

Get pics of the unmachined heads (the part under the valve cover, not the side with the valve faces in it), the stamped numbers on the block on the head surface next to the timing chain cover, and a picture of the intake manifold and carb that was on the engine.
Do those things, and that'll tell the tale.

I'd ask him for the original lifters and camshaft, too--it's obvious if it's a roller or flat tappet. But if he's being dishonest, he'll say he threw them away or threw them in the scrap barrel already. OR, he could just pull out some others from a different engine and say "these are them." At which point, you'd need to photograph any part numbers on them, and that's going to open up another can of worms because he'll say "Oh, I grabbed the wrong one," or or or..
Take a pic of the heads. ASAP. From all angles.
-Brad

[LostMy65]

Originally Posted by Brad54

I don't want to be a dick, or the bearer of bad news, but I suspect your machine shop is being dishonest.

-Brad

You make a very good point here.
The older fella that I bought my 65 back from said when the 283 blew
(the 283 I originally had in it when I owned it), he said he had his shop build him a high performance 327.
After I bought it back, I started digging around my engine. With help from forum members here, we deduced it is a 283)
The shop told him it was a 327. how was the ol fella to know. Sad....

The story starts here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...83#post5777912

[salty531]

Originally Posted by LostMy65

You make a very good point here.
The older fella that I bought my 65 back from said when the 283 blew
(the 283 I originally had in it when I owned it), he said he had his shop build him a high performance 327.
After I bought it back, I started digging around my engine. With help from forum members here, we deduced it is a 283)
The shop told him it was a 327. how was the ol fella to know. Sad....

The story starts here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...83#post5777912

The guy working on my engine is a second generation and has seen many a 327. I will take his word over you any day.

[LostMy65]

Originally Posted by salty531

The guy working on my engine is a second generation and has seen many a 327. I will take his word over you any day.

Sorry, I wasn't implying he said yours was a 283.

[LostMy65]

Most people of that generation kept every piece of paper and receipt related to their vehicles. Every oil change. Every filter change. Every purchased item.
Sheesh! I can't find the receipt for the battery I bought 6 months ago.
But then again, I don't remember forgetting anything.

[61K10]

If it's what you say--screw all the nay Sayer experts. I am from that time (1949) and as far as keeping all the info, no way. Never kept the car/tk more than a year or 2. Restore it and have fun now. Good luck.
just some old info
151 cam was a hyd 327 350 hp
346 was the 327 365/375 and 302 z28 cam solid
097 was 283-270hp up and 327 340hp solid

[LostMy65]

Hopefully you find an answer.
Either way, it's cool you bought it new and have had it for over 50 years.

[61K10]

Nice elco also.

[joesscamaro]

Compared to most of you here...I'm a fairly new guy. What I loved about this site from the start was the level of respect that most everyone always showed one another. It's not like the usual car sites. Some of you don't believe what the original post'r has stated...which is fine. You don't have to believe him. You could simply state your opinion, in a respectable manor, like Brad54 did, and move on. The beating of the dead horse theme is kind of annoying to me. I know some are just very addimant in what you believe/know is right/wrong. Can we keep the level of respect where it should be? Sorry, I just think some of the comments being made are immature and uncalled for. My 2 cents...

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by joesscamaro

Compared to most of you here...I'm a fairly new guy. What I loved about this site from the start was the level of respect that most everyone always showed one another. It's not like the usual car sites. Some of you don't believe what the original post'r has stated...which is fine. You don't have to believe him. You could simply state your opinion, in a respectable manor, like Brad54 did, and move on. The beating of the dead horse theme is kind of annoying to me. I know some are just very addimant in what you believe/know is right/wrong. Can we keep the level of respect where it should be? Sorry, I just think some of the comments being made are immature and uncalled for. My 2 cents...

X2!

[salty531]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

X2!

Thank you. Too bad more people aren't like you.

[rvrfoot]

He ask for help but will not show pictures thats why it just keeps going.

[TJ's Chevy]

The man also asked for no Smart Ass replies. Well....that didn't happen.

[60-66]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

The man also asked for no Smart Ass replies. Well....that didn't happen.

And he edited his post yesterday to say that TJ , it certainly was not in the original post. When you make claims like these and ask for opinions you will get replies like whats been posted. Im not liking the way this is going either but Im not the author of the thread leading it this way.

One more comment on the L79 , you'll never find one backed by an automatic transmission. The combination of the cam etc just will not work with an automatic. I think a very reasonable answer is here when we find out more about the engine , possibly dealer installed which would make this not factory. Salty , do you remember the name of the Dealer you bought it from ?

[The Rocknrod]

Take a picture of the sticker that inside your glove box door.

Originally Posted by rvrfoot

He ask for help but will not show pictures thats why it just keeps going.

You can't show pictures of what you dont have.

[LT1 Burb]

Sorry, I don't buy it. L79 was a high performance option designated for special cars and was a heavy premium over any other 327. Also you would have known 50 years ago that you had something special because it would have roasted the tires at will. But thats my opinion, also 66 would have had a glovebox SPID.

[Robert Haas]

I will call this.

Salty is a pathological liar

I will back that up by stating I will be happy to drive to San Rafael and tell him that to his face and be more then happy to take any and all pictures of this truck and it's original engine block when it comes back from out of state.


There is a difference to being misinformed, this is not the case. Salty is just telling tall tales and for some reason can not believe he is being challenged. This forum is filled with the most knowledgeable base on these trucks on this planet. We have people that know more about these trucks then the factory.

[salty531]

Waiting for you to come see the truck. You are welcome.

[shp4man]

Over the years, I've learned that there is a significant amount of misinformation in the old car/truck hobby that sometimes can be taken as gospel by less experienced guys.
All's I'm sayin'.

[LostMy65]

It's all good guys.
I think some posts were just understood wrong.
Although, there was a 60 minutes episode years back where people took their jewelry items in to a jeweler to get some work done, and the jeweler swapped out the higher quality diamond with a interior quality diamond.
If roller cams weren't available then for special order, then somewhere in the last 50 years, something got swapped out.

[jchav62]

This thread even got us long time members bickering with each other... that ain't good. I wish all the best to that truck though. It's a nice one...

[Indian113]

I just hope some lurker thinking about joining our group doesn't think we ALWAYS treat a NEW guy that way!

[Robert Haas]

Originally Posted by Indian113

I just hope some lurker thinking about joining our group doesn't think we ALWAYS treat a NEW guy that way!

Of course we don't.

This board is full of some incredibly kind and knowledgeable folk.

I think any lurker reading this thread would be proud of how well disinformation and outright deceit is dealt with.


Think of the other side of this equation. A person posts obviously wrong information, and nobody calls him on it. The Lurker would see that and feel we have little to nothing in terms of knowledge to offer.

The OP has been given numerous opportunities to walk back his statements. Even when given very informative and fact based data that is easily verified. However this did nothing to assist the OP so it was now just a matter of being honest.

I am no spring chicken. Been around the sun nearly 60 laps and one thing that amount of time gives a person is the ability to sniff out a load of BS.

[The Rocknrod]

Originally Posted by Robert Haas

O...
I am no spring chicken. Been around the sun nearly 60 laps and one thing that amount of time gives a person is the ability to sniff out a load of BS.

Amen!
60 myself. I don't know how that happened I thought I'd be dead by 30. God played a trick on me.