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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
When you shorten it up, you will lose some of the ram effect.
I thought the same thing, just cut the mounting flanges and swap them, but you don't want to lose the height. Although with as much torque as this engine produces stock, it may not be too noticable, even though the increased CFM of the Strombergs livened up the engine. |
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Well I figure with as much height as it has over stock, that any changes (Shorter/higher on this setup) are far better than before anyways, even if it looses a bit of the tunnel ram effect.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Thanks for all the suggestions guys.....Though I won't be going with a cowl hood because it is not period correct. NOTHING that wasn't available before '63 (with the exception of a few small items) will be going on this truck.
I'm OK with cutting this hood up because the back bracket (close to the cab) is acutally rusted pretty bad with some rust through the hood above it. Here is a pic from yesterday at the Billetproof show......Notice I changed a little something, and I lOVE IT! ![]()
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
looks nice, just don't drive in the rain
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Cort,
I don't have a pictures of this but I once saw a guy with the same basic setup as you (on a V-8) and he had a muffler shop bend the pipe for him to curve down and forward toward the rad. (think of the horns on a Ram). Give that some though.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Like your way of thinking on your project. Stick to your gun's on this one.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Cort, that thing is frickin AWESOME! Every time I see your truck it get's cooler. Any more pics from the show?
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Alright,
Here are some pics of the mock-up hood that I will be installing. I saved this hood from the crusher at the junk yard last week for $40! Seriously, it was #2 in line to be crushed the next day....I couldn't bear to see that happen. So the hood is pretty trashed, but the front GMC only grill is PERFECT! So eventually I will find an old 60-61 chevy hood, since they are easier to come by and then just crop and weld this piece in the chevy skin. The top skins are identical on the two hoods. Let me know what you guys think, and what style you like better! Also, suggestions are always welcome.... Look #1 ![]() Look #2 ![]()
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Hey Cort,
I think I have a spare set of hood light housings, do you need a set?
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
OK, change #35. I removed the adapter that goes from the rochester to the Stromberg bolt pattern. That took out about an inch and a half of the overall height. I spent about 4 hours today custom making an adapter plate out of 3/8" aluminum plate. It turned out awesome! My throttle linkages are much smoother, I have more pedal and I think the truck has more power.
![]() So now I have about 1 1/2" clearance between the top of the carbs and the 62-66 hood. I haven't put the 60-61 hood back on to see what clearance I have yet, but I bet it'll be about an inch or so. So, now I can start fabricating a filter housing that will take the filter discs and have a weather stripping to mate to the hood. I think I am going to go with the 60-61 hood after all.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
OK, change #35. I removed the adapter that goes from the rochester to the Stromberg bolt pattern. That took out about an inch and a half of the overall height. I spent about 4 hours today custom making an adapter plate out of 3/8" aluminum plate. It turned out awesome! My throttle linkages are much smoother, I have more pedal and I think the truck has more power.
![]() So now I have about 1 1/2" clearance between the top of the carbs and the 62-66 hood. I haven't put the 60-61 hood back on to see what clearance I have yet, but I bet it'll be about an inch or so. So, now I can start fabricating a filter housing that will take the filter discs and have a weather stripping to mate to the hood. I think I am going to go with the 60-61 hood after all. ![]()
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
cool!!
nice score!! I say go with the first pic....
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Look #1 is coolest, but provides no filtering for the incoming air.
Look #2 is practical, but nowhere near as good looking. With all the old Fords in the Pacific Northwest you have not been able to find an old truck with the scoop I posted up for you yet? |
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
I guess I'm not looking in the right places? Everytime I see a big COE or 2 ton truck, I always check to see if it is an old ford but, alas, no scoop.....
I guess I need to try evil bay....
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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good score on the hood. do you have some sort of filter that works in those scoops? |
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
If you had bigger round filters, say those 6" ones(?), I'd go with that.
But, if not, the velocity stacks for sure! And they have a little filter in them, if their like the ones I saw on a car a few months ago. Last edited by texanidiot25; 07-14-2009 at 11:55 PM. |
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Right now there is just a screen in the velocity stacks for " big debris". There is a company making little disk filters that drop down into the stacks though.....If I drive any distance, I put on the air filters then take them off and put the stacks on when I reach the destination. Only takes a couple seconds....
Here is a link to the filters: http://www.thehotrodcompany.com/shop...oduct_id=md001 And here is a link of another type of filter I was thinking about running: http://www.thehotrodcompany.com/shop...oduct_id=obc15
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
An option for air filters, but you already cut the hood. Some of the early Novas with the six had an oilbath filter that used a sheet metal duct going over the valve cover. I have seen pictures, but I couldn't locate any.
I also remembered the filter setup on the 1957 Chrysler 300. Found a picture.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
Yeah those are cool filters. I wanted to cut the hood though. But now that I get to see what it looks like.......Those velocity stacks sticking out sure show you how "big" those hoods are.....Back to the drawing boards....
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
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Or... though it doesn't appeal to me on your truck, it's straight '60's vintage stuff... one of the Mr. Gasket Injector style scoops. There are several styles along this line. You'd likely have to make a base to fit your carb spacing.
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Re: 305 V-6 with dual Strombergs
![]() Something like this out of the hood would be sa-weet. |
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