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bs25j · 10-06-2005, 01:41 AM

How tough is it to build a fuel cell. I dont really know what kind of technical stuff is in the cell but 400 dollars seems like a lot of money for a tank.

71swb4x4 · 10-06-2005, 12:56 PM

I looked at building my own, but after materials, time, and peace of mind it was an easy choice to get a Fuel Cell Guy tank. It mounted easily, and was literally plug and play.

BubbaGreen · 10-19-2005, 10:09 PM

Let me add my opinion....since it IS worth so much. :-)
First off, the blazer replacement will force you much work....the 1-3/8" filler
and the fact that if its intended for a fleetside bed, major modification of the underbed support rail.
The ECE version may seem pricey in the beginning, but...in the end you will be happy with it. 2" filler tube (at least for a side fill set up) Bolt right in using the stock holes (if a short bed will require removal of the original frame cross member, and the include a nicely made replacement) You can also specify carb or fuel injection (my recommendation, get the fuel injection version....it can be used with a carb and gives you the option of upgrading later) Comes with a 0-90ohm fuel level sending unit made by VDO. Holds 22~23 gallons. Made out of stainless, so it wont rust.
Here are a couple of pics I have of my install. Only thing I requested on the tank is a 1/2" NPT bung installed apprx 2" in front of the side fill port, for the vent during refueling to prevent backfill issues. (this is non-standard to the ECE, special request) The filler door is from an S-10, not sure of the year.
here are a coulpe of links (since I cant figure out how to add pics anymore)
http://www.prismnet.com/~grzanich/ECE_FuelTank.JPG
http://www.prismnet.com/~grzanich/71...iller_door.jpg
Will be glad to answer any questions in regards to this.

matthufham · 10-21-2005, 11:37 AM

i got my relocation kit from gmcpauls. it's the poly version and so far i love it.

Striker169 · 10-21-2005, 07:29 PM

Didnt someone on here put the filler neck though the rear post hole on the back of his truck?

Also I was wondering would it be possible to have 2 reasonably sized tanks in our trucks? One behind the wheels and one infront? I was wanting to do this (454 gets like 9mpg want to be able to go somewhat far without refilling) but having the filler necks in the driver side corners on the front and back.

Do you get what im saying?

qksilver · 10-22-2005, 12:04 AM

Who is fcg? Do they have a web site?
Thanks,
Steve

68w/sbc406 · 10-23-2005, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qksilver

Who is fcg? Do they have a web site?
Thanks,
Steve

(fuelcellguy) he is a member of this board. if you do a member search you can find him

TEXAS 68 · 10-24-2005, 02:13 PM

Here's a link to his website
http://www.aluminumfuelcell.com/index.html

Striker169 · 11-08-2005, 09:17 PM

Does anyone have a link or pictures of the gas tank where the filler hole was in the stake holes in the bed?

yank · 11-10-2005, 10:17 AM

My filler is not run down through the post but I thought I'd show what I'm doing with mine. There's alot of fabrication involved. If you plan to do any heavy hauling in the bed I would not suggest going this route since I had to cut most of the support out of the corner of the bed.

Longstep70 · 11-22-2005, 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=yank]My filler is not run down through the post but I thought I'd show what I'm doing with mine. There's alot of fabrication involved. If you plan to do any heavy hauling in the bed I would not suggest going this route since I had to cut most of the support out of the corner of the bed.

QUOTE]
This is cool. This is actually what I have been planning to try but I hadn't seen it done until now. Do you have any more pics? Even larger versions of the first two would be useful. How much room do you have for getting to the cap and getting the fuel nozzle in there? How are you latching the lens up into place?

ebfabman · 11-19-2005, 09:29 AM

yank have you tried to mount the rear bumper with that set up? You may find you won't be able to get the tail light open enough to get a gas pump nozzle to the filler tube. Thats why most set ups like you've got use a rear roll pan instead of a bumper. Your thoughts???.........

yank · 11-20-2005, 06:31 PM

ebfabman, I had thought about that. AS you can see in this pic I will have no problem clearing the bumper. My tail light pivots in at the bottom so there is interferance with the bumper.

BowTieMan · 11-21-2005, 10:12 PM

Does $75 for just a blazer tank seem high. Thats not with strapes or anything.

71swb4x4 · 11-21-2005, 11:14 PM

If it's in good shape that seems like a great price. Jump on it.

BowTieMan · 11-26-2005, 12:46 PM

Im a little confused. If I use one off a newer blazer thats fuel injected what to do I do about them pump since I have a carb? I know I use the mechanical but I mean what do I do about the one allready in the tank.

72MARIO · 11-28-2005, 11:14 AM

I am glad someone got the flip down taillight to work. I spent at least a week trying ot get mine to clear as it returns into the light opening. What are you going to do with the wiring ?

I just decided to fill it thru the bed floor.

Mudder · 11-28-2005, 12:24 PM

Bowtieman. I am running a carb and I used a tank off of a 85 Blazer. It is made for a regular sender. A regular sender will not work in a FI tank. You can buy new tanks for around a hundered buck from Raybucks. They also have all the hardware like straps and senders.

gringoloco · 12-06-2005, 03:06 AM

I have pored through every thread I can find on this subject and have not been able to answer this:

Are there existing holes in the frame that can be used for the hanger bolts when using the Blazer/Suburban tank, or will they have to be drilled?

FYI- Classic Performance has a "Conversion Kit" for $169. Cheapest I've found.

Thanks,
Chris

72MARIO · 12-06-2005, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Are there existing holes in the frame that can be used for the hanger bolts when using the Blazer/Suburban tank, or will they have to be drilled?

There are no existing holes they need to drilled. Not a very difficult job. Hacking the bed cross sill to clear the top of the blazer tank is the hard part.

yank · 12-06-2005, 09:41 AM

My 70 swb had holes in the frame that lined right up with the blazer tank kit.

gringoloco · 12-06-2005, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yank

My 70 swb had holes in the frame that lined right up with the blazer tank kit.

Sweet! I'll look for them tomorrow.

Just scored this on eBay:

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72MARIO · 12-06-2005, 06:57 PM

Oky well the LWB dont. As far as I know.....

drh1485 · 12-09-2005, 03:29 AM

I was given a tank from an 87 w/FI. Is there anyway to use it with a carb on a 70?

webbes · 12-09-2005, 10:19 PM

how do you get in touch with fuel cell guy or does he have a website

10-06-2005, 12:56 PM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	I looked at building my own, but after materials, time, and peace of mind it was an easy choice to get a Fuel Cell Guy tank. It mounted easily, and was literally plug and play. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

10-19-2005, 10:09 PM	#3
BubbaGreen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 686	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Let me add my opinion....since it IS worth so much. :-) First off, the blazer replacement will force you much work....the 1-3/8" filler and the fact that if its intended for a fleetside bed, major modification of the underbed support rail. The ECE version may seem pricey in the beginning, but...in the end you will be happy with it. 2" filler tube (at least for a side fill set up) Bolt right in using the stock holes (if a short bed will require removal of the original frame cross member, and the include a nicely made replacement) You can also specify carb or fuel injection (my recommendation, get the fuel injection version....it can be used with a carb and gives you the option of upgrading later) Comes with a 0-90ohm fuel level sending unit made by VDO. Holds 22~23 gallons. Made out of stainless, so it wont rust. Here are a couple of pics I have of my install. Only thing I requested on the tank is a 1/2" NPT bung installed apprx 2" in front of the side fill port, for the vent during refueling to prevent backfill issues. (this is non-standard to the ECE, special request) The filler door is from an S-10, not sure of the year. here are a coulpe of links (since I cant figure out how to add pics anymore) http://www.prismnet.com/~grzanich/ECE_FuelTank.JPG http://www.prismnet.com/~grzanich/71...iller_door.jpg Will be glad to answer any questions in regards to this. __________________ 71 Chevy C-10 SWB Fleetside RamJet-350/4L60e & Compushift/3.73Posi See it at www.prismnet.com/~grzanich

10-21-2005, 11:37 AM	#4
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap i got my relocation kit from gmcpauls. it's the poly version and so far i love it. Last edited by matthufham; 10-21-2005 at 11:39 AM.

10-21-2005, 07:29 PM	#5
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Didnt someone on here put the filler neck though the rear post hole on the back of his truck? Also I was wondering would it be possible to have 2 reasonably sized tanks in our trucks? One behind the wheels and one infront? I was wanting to do this (454 gets like 9mpg want to be able to go somewhat far without refilling) but having the filler necks in the driver side corners on the front and back. Do you get what im saying?

10-22-2005, 12:04 AM	#6
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Who is fcg? Do they have a web site? Thanks, Steve

10-06-2005, 01:41 AM	#1
bs25j Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 80	How tough is it to build a fuel cell. I dont really know what kind of technical stuff is in the cell but 400 dollars seems like a lot of money for a tank.

10-24-2005, 02:13 PM	#8
TEXAS 68 Vortec in the works Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spring,Texas Posts: 735	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Here's a link to his website http://www.aluminumfuelcell.com/index.html __________________ 68? It's all figured out untill you get it apart. Is it Sunday yet??? 68 Project 68 SWB frame off/98 Vortec with stock FI/power everything. 95 ECLB 2500 with 346,000 on the clock(the original HD) 99 Lesabre-wifes ride 08 Crew Cab LTZ-All Mine 89 SWB 5/7 drop-Son's first ride.

11-08-2005, 09:17 PM	#9
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Does anyone have a link or pictures of the gas tank where the filler hole was in the stake holes in the bed?

11-10-2005, 10:17 AM	#10
yank Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Meridian, Ms. Posts: 244	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap My filler is not run down through the post but I thought I'd show what I'm doing with mine. There's alot of fabrication involved. If you plan to do any heavy hauling in the bed I would not suggest going this route since I had to cut most of the support out of the corner of the bed. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB Go ahead chance it........Columbus did!!! Steve (Chitlin) Bacon My DIY Shop http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/mpalmiter/shop/

11-22-2005, 02:09 PM	#11
Longstep70 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose , Ca Posts: 235	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap [QUOTE=yank]My filler is not run down through the post but I thought I'd show what I'm doing with mine. There's alot of fabrication involved. If you plan to do any heavy hauling in the bed I would not suggest going this route since I had to cut most of the support out of the corner of the bed. QUOTE] This is cool. This is actually what I have been planning to try but I hadn't seen it done until now. Do you have any more pics? Even larger versions of the first two would be useful. How much room do you have for getting to the cap and getting the fuel nozzle in there? How are you latching the lens up into place?

11-19-2005, 09:29 AM	#12
ebfabman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 2,489	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap yank have you tried to mount the rear bumper with that set up? You may find you won't be able to get the tail light open enough to get a gas pump nozzle to the filler tube. Thats why most set ups like you've got use a rear roll pan instead of a bumper. Your thoughts???.........

11-20-2005, 06:31 PM	#13
yank Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Meridian, Ms. Posts: 244	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap ebfabman, I had thought about that. AS you can see in this pic I will have no problem clearing the bumper. My tail light pivots in at the bottom so there is interferance with the bumper. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB Go ahead chance it........Columbus did!!! Steve (Chitlin) Bacon My DIY Shop http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/mpalmiter/shop/

11-21-2005, 10:12 PM	#14
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Does $75 for just a blazer tank seem high. Thats not with strapes or anything. __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

11-21-2005, 11:14 PM	#15
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap If it's in good shape that seems like a great price. Jump on it. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

11-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#16
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Im a little confused. If I use one off a newer blazer thats fuel injected what to do I do about them pump since I have a carb? I know I use the mechanical but I mean what do I do about the one allready in the tank. __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo



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11-28-2005, 11:14 AM	#17
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap I am glad someone got the flip down taillight to work. I spent at least a week trying ot get mine to clear as it returns into the light opening. What are you going to do with the wiring ? I just decided to fill it thru the bed floor. __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

11-28-2005, 12:24 PM	#18
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Bowtieman. I am running a carb and I used a tank off of a 85 Blazer. It is made for a regular sender. A regular sender will not work in a FI tank. You can buy new tanks for around a hundered buck from Raybucks. They also have all the hardware like straps and senders.

12-06-2005, 03:06 AM	#19
gringoloco A guy with a truck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany, for now Posts: 5,920	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap I have pored through every thread I can find on this subject and have not been able to answer this: Are there existing holes in the frame that can be used for the hanger bolts when using the Blazer/Suburban tank, or will they have to be drilled? FYI- Classic Performance has a "Conversion Kit" for $169. Cheapest I've found. Thanks, Chris __________________ -Chris Instagram _elgringoloco_ '70 Short-Wide How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10 ‘70 Blazer ConversionHow To: Ruin a Perfectly Good 4wd '72 Highlander How To: Ruin a Perfectly Good K/5 (SOLD) '72 Blazer 2WD How to: Ruin a perfectly good Blazer (SOLD) '05 Yukon Daily Driven (not so stock) Yukon (SOLD) ‘07 Yukon Denali (daily) Members met list: SCOTI, darkhorse970, 67cheby, 67cheby'sGirl, klmore, porterbuilt, n2billet, Fastrucken, classicchev, Col Clank, GSFMECH, HuggerCST, Spray-Bomb, BACKYARD88, 5150, fine69, fatbass, smbrouss70, 65StreetCruiser, GAc10boy

12-06-2005, 09:41 AM	#21
yank Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Meridian, Ms. Posts: 244	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap My 70 swb had holes in the frame that lined right up with the blazer tank kit. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB Go ahead chance it........Columbus did!!! Steve (Chitlin) Bacon My DIY Shop http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/mpalmiter/shop/

12-06-2005, 06:57 PM	#23
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap Oky well the LWB dont. As far as I know..... __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

12-09-2005, 03:29 AM	#24
drh1485 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap I was given a tank from an 87 w/FI. Is there anyway to use it with a carb on a 70?

12-09-2005, 10:19 PM	#25
webbes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ILL. Posts: 129	Re: Rear Fuel Tank swap how do you get in touch with fuel cell guy or does he have a website

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