project BIG RED (gen3 on air)

[-T-]

Nice, I will be out of the Jeeps for awhile!! I read this thread, and one ? not answered i think was what type of paint are you using on the motors and how is it holding up. I never painted the jeeps motor (pointless really) but i will paint the one for the '69. Thanks

[68 short step]

i use dupli-color aluminum paint... you can get it at any parts store.... it holds up great, but you must prep/clean the engine/trans very good, so it'll stick properly.

[CheyenneShop]

Great work! Just got caught up on the build. Whats the advantage to using the hard air lines?

Thanks, Ronnie

[68 short step]

looks, and also will hold up better being close to the exhaust....

[mcbassin]

The cab looks great! Keep it up!

[ChevyChad]

Are those plates that are holding the air tank on sagging from the weight of the air tank? Looks like it in the pictures, but maybe thats just at the weird angle they are taken from? If they are sagging, you can weld another piece of plate rotated vertical to the top (or bottom if there is room) and that will stiffen it up a LOT and help to stop it from deflecting...

[68 short step]

sagging, no.... they are 3/16 steel....they look like that because the fwd most x-member they attach to has a slight downward curve to it...and when i tightened the bolts it gives it the illusion of it sagging..... i couldn't bend those plates with that air tank if i wanted to....

[ERASER5]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

im gonna moddify the stock one, for an in-tank pump...so its gonna stay behind the seat, for now anyways.

Can we get any advance info on this? I kind of want to keep my original tank too.

[OARNGESI]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

the jeeps in the shop all have lsx engines too...my buddy, justin, is into them, and i wire them up/ get the electronics taken care of... He does all the mechanical work...ever looking for another rock-crawler, give me a buzz, i think there is about 8 at the shop now....along with a 70 cuda getting a viper v10

any pics of the cuda

[Ricks' 72C10]

Great projects!

Excellent work!

Very imformative and helpfull

Thanks for sharing

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by ERASER5

Can we get any advance info on this? I kind of want to keep my original tank too.

yelp, ill get you some more info on this soon..... what the plan is is to modify the stock pick-up and sending unit, and also add a return, and of coarse the pump itself...ill get up some pics and info for ya.

Originally Posted by OARNGESI

any pics of the cuda

ill get some pics of that project....its gutted now, and needs to go to the blasters.....ill also get pics of the engine/tranny combo going in, cus it just looks cool.

Originally Posted by Ricks' 72C10

Great projects!

Excellent work!

Very imformative and helpfull

Thanks for sharing

thank you

[tk-mpl]

Hey Don, great work.. I have fallowed, and copied your other gen 3 threads. I have a couple questions for ya... I was wondering how much you cut off of the headers before you put the V bands on and if you cut it at an angle. I just got the RH side on and it seems to turn towards the frame quite abit..

Also, I am using a 2007 5.3L and I was wondering about a couple of electrical things.. I rewired it myself, it was fun and I hope it works... Anyways, the truck is equipped with voltage control dohickie that goes around the battery cable. Looking at the wiring diagram the BCM controls it. I don't have a BCM, just the PCM and TCM.. The 6.2L you are using in HULK should have the same setup-------What is your idea to get around this... Are you going to use an older alt..

And, I was hoping to keep the truck as modern inside as outside. I wanted to get the gauges to communicate on the CAN network.. The engine has all the sensors on it already and I did not want to run raduntant sensors just to run some gauges... Do you know of any gauges that will comm. on the CAN network to talk to the PCM and TCM that you can get in a package/set... I saw some on Mast Motorsports site and that is extactly what I want. I have tried contacting them and really got nowhere and don't have much info on them... Do you have any ideas on that aswell.
Thanx man.. sorry for the long questions..
Trevor

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by tk-mpl

Hey Don, great work.. I have fallowed, and copied your other gen 3 threads. I have a couple questions for ya... I was wondering how much you cut off of the headers before you put the V bands on and if you cut it at an angle. I just got the RH side on and it seems to turn towards the frame quite abit..

Also, I am using a 2007 5.3L and I was wondering about a couple of electrical things.. I rewired it myself, it was fun and I hope it works... Anyways, the truck is equipped with voltage control dohickie that goes around the battery cable. Looking at the wiring diagram the BCM controls it. I don't have a BCM, just the PCM and TCM.. The 6.2L you are using in HULK should have the same setup-------What is your idea to get around this... Are you going to use an older alt..

And, I was hoping to keep the truck as modern inside as outside. I wanted to get the gauges to communicate on the CAN network.. The engine has all the sensors on it already and I did not want to run raduntant sensors just to run some gauges... Do you know of any gauges that will comm. on the CAN network to talk to the PCM and TCM that you can get in a package/set... I saw some on Mast Motorsports site and that is extactly what I want. I have tried contacting them and really got nowhere and don't have much info on them... Do you have any ideas on that aswell.
Thanx man.. sorry for the long questions..
Trevor

them are some great questions, on the headers i do cut them at an angle, about 1.25" from the O2 bung.. (you dont want the flange to be closer then about 3/4" from the bung, this could lead to O2 codes)...

on the voltage do-hicky that goes around the bat. cable, ive made harness that ive elimanated it completely....what it does is see how much of a load you're pulling then tells the alt. to put out more/less pending on the required load...
how you elimanate is,go directly from your ECM pinout 'generator turn on sig.' (brown wire) go to pin 1 of the alt. and the grey wire 'generator field duty sig' goes to pin 2 of the alt.. what computer do you have, the e38 or e40?


unfortunally on the guages, ive also look into just that...guages that communicate on the CAN, and i couldnt find any except MMS, but i dont like their styleing...also i think you have to run thier m90 controller for their guages too (but im not for sure on that tho)...also 'stack' guages maybe able/willing to build you what you're after, but i guarentee you're gonna spend a few $$$...the only advice i have to offer on the guages, is find a style you like, then let the fun begin (make them work)

[tk-mpl]

I think I have the E38 PCM, but how do you tell... As for the gauges all I know is that they are VDO gauges, what ever that means.. Mast seems to sell the gauges as a package, but again only to work with their M90 ECM. I will check my connector end v iew for my pcm on the charging system..
Trevor

[68 short step]

the pcm will be labelled in small letters/numbers in the upper corner, kinda by the mounting holes.

[tk-mpl]

Is therre any problems with welding on the headers being that they are ceramic coated. does the coating peel after..

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by tk-mpl

Is therre any problems with welding on the headers being that they are ceramic coated. does the coating peel after..

no issues, it wont peel on ya.....after its welded, tape up around the weld area (so you only paint the weld) and get some ceramic exhaust paint, and paint the weld....that'll keep it from rusting and will hold up to the heat.... or you could get them re-coated.

[tk-mpl]

Hey Don, can you give us a parts list for the AN fittings you use.. I was getting my P/S ready and need to order my V clamps aswell so I thought I would order them all at once..
Specifically:
-P/S fittings for pressure + return and adapters to go into the gear box.
-adapters that go into the trans for the cooler and lines.
-fittings for fuel filter, the return line off of the filter is 5/16 so a -6 fitting won't work will it..
Thanx
Trevor

[my67chevytruck]

updates?

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by tk-mpl

Hey Don, can you give us a parts list for the AN fittings you use.. I was getting my P/S ready and need to order my V clamps aswell so I thought I would order them all at once..
Specifically:
-P/S fittings for pressure + return and adapters to go into the gear box.
-adapters that go into the trans for the cooler and lines.
-fittings for fuel filter, the return line off of the filter is 5/16 so a -6 fitting won't work will it..
Thanx
Trevor

the power steering fittings PN are this from summit
AER-FBM2965 6AN TO 11/16 INVERTED FLARE
AER-FBM2964 -6 AN Male to 5/8-18 in. Inverted Flare
EAR-991955ERL -6 TO 16MM X1.5 POWER STEERING


the trans fittings that go into the trans, i use
SUM-220647 -06X1/4 NPT-JIC ALUMINUM
ive been told that the threads are streight, but ive used the NPT fittings on many swaps with no cracks, or leaking..


the fuel line adaptors
RUS-640850 EFI TO 6 AN FITTING
RUS-640860 FUEL RAIL TO -6AN

[68 short step]

makeing some progress on the firewall, its completly shaved now, as much as im gonna do it anyways....i made little plugs, and welded all the un-used holes in the firewall....i also made some spacers from some rod stock i had, welded them to the frame, drilled and tap, and installed some line clamps...
here are a few pics

[Chevy-Art]

Awesome project, nice ingenuity with the rod spacer.

[tk-mpl]

Thanx Don, I went to the local hose shop and got all stainless fittings and teflon braided hose. I was suprised on how much it cost. I think I still need some more too. It has cost me $280 CDN so far.

I was wondering what you used for a cooling fan and if you used the stock rad or an aftermarket. Depending on what year your setup is you will have PCM controled cooling fans. I have a 2007 so I have 2 fan speeds controled by the PCM and was wondering what will work..
Thanx
Trevor.

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by tk-mpl

Thanx Don, I went to the local hose shop and got all stainless fittings and teflon braided hose. I was suprised on how much it cost. I think I still need some more too. It has cost me $280 CDN so far.

I was wondering what you used for a cooling fan and if you used the stock rad or an aftermarket. Depending on what year your setup is you will have PCM controled cooling fans. I have a 2007 so I have 2 fan speeds controled by the PCM and was wondering what will work..
Thanx
Trevor.

ya, the AN fittings and hose adds up quick...on the cooling fan, with this truck, i will be useing the stock clutch style one, that mounts to the waterpump pulley....i will be useing a new (stock replacement for our trucks) 4 core radiator....as for the PCM controlling the fans, you can use whatever electric fans you'ld like, just have the PCM control the relays, and set your temp tables to whatever you like, so they come on/off when you want.

[68 short step]

some more progress to report, my brother and i put the cab on today... i prefer to have the cab bolted to the frame when doing rocker panel replacements, cab corners, floor etc....ill also get a little jump-start on the inside cab wiring..
here are a few pics