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Chevy_68 · 09-04-2003, 09:16 PM

nice i thik im going to do this crossmember drop, anyways will it allow you to lay rocker if so how much would i have to cut for it to lay rocker I was thinking a 2 inch like you guys and this is for my 67

fastbagged68 · 09-05-2003, 11:06 AM

It should lay rocker on a truck. I had mine set up and my frame sat completely on the ground. The trucks body sit lower then the frame. So you would lay Rocker. Also depends on what size tire you run on how much to cut!

phantom dually · 09-06-2003, 10:57 AM

Is there anyone that is making good progress here?? I am still awaiting the sleeves for the front lower arms. Always something!!!

phantom dually · 09-07-2003, 09:54 PM

Few pics of upper arm mounted and back view of holes that had to be drilled out with holesaw to access bolts for the crossmember.

phantom dually · 09-07-2003, 09:55 PM

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**N2TRUX** · 09-08-2003, 12:40 AM

Ok Phantom, let me make sure I'm with you here. I see what you have done, but let me check why it was done. Were the acces holes need because the tubular A-arms mount different, or because the crossmember is up higher, and in the way now. Or is it all of the above...

loweredd · 09-08-2003, 12:45 AM

I've got one question for ya Phantom.....whats the advantage of thr tubular uppers on this setup? Clearance?

Chevy_68 · 09-08-2003, 01:20 AM

fastbagged68 how low are you arms off the ground when the frame is sitting on the ground. and also you said i would be able to lay rocker right then how low does the body hang from the frame about 2 inches i would think right. in other words once the rockers hit how low will the frame be off the gound

fastbagged68 · 09-08-2003, 11:27 AM

Chevy 68- If I remember right I believe my arms and crossmember are about an 1 inch off the ground when layed out! I have a suburban so my bosy does not hang over the frame as much as a standard 63-72 chevy does. But I dont beleive you would have to get the frame to sit on the ground to have the body. But I could be wrong. You probably need the frame with in a 1/2 inch of the ground to lay it out.

phantom dually · 09-08-2003, 10:39 PM

Yes the holes had to be made in the frame because the crossmember was moved up. You do not want to bolt to the frame as it would flex to much. This way all the stress is on the crossmember as it was factory. Tubular arms are lighter?? I bought them cause they looked cool. I beleive they may give you a little more clearance also??

phantom dually · 09-14-2003, 09:51 PM

TTT anyone making progress??

wdz28ss · 09-18-2003, 09:02 PM

Just got a box of a bunch of parts for my truck. Bill talked me into the do it yourself kit for the crossmember. I was a little worried when i opened up the boxes he sent, but seeing all of the "semi-finished" photos make things look like something reasonable to do. I got his upper and lower arms, a rack kit and the "do it yourself" crossmember kit. Looks like i'll be cutting and welding this weekend. I'm going to try to take some pics along the way so that bill can use them to build some sort of instructions.

phantom dually · 09-18-2003, 09:05 PM

Good luck!! I was going to do some instructions for him to as he needs them badly. What made you go with Bills kit?? Let me know if you need any help as a few of us here have all the stuff you just got. I talked to Bill today to try to get a few things!!

wdz28ss · 09-18-2003, 09:21 PM

When i did my step notch...he was the only one that i could find that had a kit that had the right bends for the frame. Thats what made me start with him, but he's quite the bull****ter and I like to buy from people. "people buy from people". Bill seems to know what he's doing. My only concern that i can see so far is my hood hinges. Allthough Bill says he's in the process of fabbing up a reverse flip kit.....we'll see.

jon_volk · 09-24-2003, 10:05 AM

so how much does turner charge for a 2" dropped crossmember, control arms and steering rack?

phantom dually · 09-24-2003, 10:20 PM

$350 for a crossmember plus $100 core. Control arms run around $700 for uppers and lowers and the steering rack for him to set up your member is probably free if you let him know when you order it. I am running a manual rack and paid $190 for it from Flaming river. I also have all the mentioned parts.

phantom dually · 09-28-2003, 08:46 PM

Here are a few progress pics. I hope to have the front rolling by next weekend. Notice how close lower arms are to the rack and pinion.

phantom dually · 09-28-2003, 08:47 PM

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wdz28ss · 09-28-2003, 09:17 PM

Looking good Phantom. I got all my pieces welded up and have the crossmember installed "test fitting". As soon as I get my Lower control arms I will be able to set it back on the ground and see if it will be low enough for me. If it is, then it all comes apart to be painted.

phantom dually · 09-28-2003, 10:08 PM

Im at the same point here. I want to get it all bolted up and see if everything is going to jive with each other. I ran into the mistake of powdercoating the frame THEN majorly changing my plans. Also I am going to set the cab on and and set the motor in to see if it clears. I dont want any suprises.

wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 10:35 PM

well, got my lower arms yesterday and bolted things up. Had to do some pretty nice cutting on fenders to clear the tires. Also had to take out the heater box. Need to get a few different air fittings and more line and put air in the bags (re-doing the plumbing) so I can set her on the ground. I think it will lay frame on 20's though.

wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 10:37 PM

wow...pictures seem to be working....another?

loweredd · 09-30-2003, 10:42 PM

one word------awesome. That is stunning wdz. Are you going to keep the wood look trim when you repaint?

09-06-2003, 10:57 AM	#103
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Is there anyone that is making good progress here?? I am still awaiting the sleeves for the front lower arms. Always something!!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-07-2003, 09:54 PM	#104
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Few pics of upper arm mounted and back view of holes that had to be drilled out with holesaw to access bolts for the crossmember. Attached Images

09-07-2003, 09:55 PM	#105
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	2 Attached Images

09-07-2003, 09:56 PM	#106
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	3 Attached Images

09-08-2003, 10:39 PM	#111
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Yes the holes had to be made in the frame because the crossmember was moved up. You do not want to bolt to the frame as it would flex to much. This way all the stress is on the crossmember as it was factory. Tubular arms are lighter?? I bought them cause they looked cool. I beleive they may give you a little more clearance also?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-04-2003, 09:16 PM	#101
Chevy_68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PHX Az Posts: 155	nice i thik im going to do this crossmember drop, anyways will it allow you to lay rocker if so how much would i have to cut for it to lay rocker I was thinking a 2 inch like you guys and this is for my 67

09-05-2003, 11:06 AM	#102
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	It should lay rocker on a truck. I had mine set up and my frame sat completely on the ground. The trucks body sit lower then the frame. So you would lay Rocker. Also depends on what size tire you run on how much to cut!

09-08-2003, 12:40 AM	#107
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Ok Phantom, let me make sure I'm with you here. I see what you have done, but let me check why it was done. Were the acces holes need because the tubular A-arms mount different, or because the crossmember is up higher, and in the way now. Or is it all of the above...

09-08-2003, 12:45 AM	#108
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	I've got one question for ya Phantom.....whats the advantage of thr tubular uppers on this setup? Clearance?

09-08-2003, 01:20 AM	#109
Chevy_68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PHX Az Posts: 155	fastbagged68 how low are you arms off the ground when the frame is sitting on the ground. and also you said i would be able to lay rocker right then how low does the body hang from the frame about 2 inches i would think right. in other words once the rockers hit how low will the frame be off the gound

09-08-2003, 11:27 AM	#110
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Chevy 68- If I remember right I believe my arms and crossmember are about an 1 inch off the ground when layed out! I have a suburban so my bosy does not hang over the frame as much as a standard 63-72 chevy does. But I dont beleive you would have to get the frame to sit on the ground to have the body. But I could be wrong. You probably need the frame with in a 1/2 inch of the ground to lay it out.

09-14-2003, 09:51 PM	#112
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	TTT anyone making progress?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-18-2003, 09:02 PM	#113
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	Just got a box of a bunch of parts for my truck. Bill talked me into the do it yourself kit for the crossmember. I was a little worried when i opened up the boxes he sent, but seeing all of the "semi-finished" photos make things look like something reasonable to do. I got his upper and lower arms, a rack kit and the "do it yourself" crossmember kit. Looks like i'll be cutting and welding this weekend. I'm going to try to take some pics along the way so that bill can use them to build some sort of instructions. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-18-2003, 09:05 PM	#114
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Good luck!! I was going to do some instructions for him to as he needs them badly. What made you go with Bills kit?? Let me know if you need any help as a few of us here have all the stuff you just got. I talked to Bill today to try to get a few things!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-18-2003, 09:21 PM	#115
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	When i did my step notch...he was the only one that i could find that had a kit that had the right bends for the frame. Thats what made me start with him, but he's quite the bull****ter and I like to buy from people. "people buy from people". Bill seems to know what he's doing. My only concern that i can see so far is my hood hinges. Allthough Bill says he's in the process of fabbing up a reverse flip kit.....we'll see. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"



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09-24-2003, 10:05 AM	#116
jon_volk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milford, CT Posts: 242	so how much does turner charge for a 2" dropped crossmember, control arms and steering rack?

09-24-2003, 10:20 PM	#117
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	$350 for a crossmember plus $100 core. Control arms run around $700 for uppers and lowers and the steering rack for him to set up your member is probably free if you let him know when you order it. I am running a manual rack and paid $190 for it from Flaming river. I also have all the mentioned parts. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-28-2003, 08:46 PM	#118
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Here are a few progress pics. I hope to have the front rolling by next weekend. Notice how close lower arms are to the rack and pinion. Attached Images

09-28-2003, 08:47 PM	#119
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	#2 Attached Images

09-28-2003, 08:48 PM	#120
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	#3 Attached Images

09-28-2003, 09:17 PM	#121
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	Looking good Phantom. I got all my pieces welded up and have the crossmember installed "test fitting". As soon as I get my Lower control arms I will be able to set it back on the ground and see if it will be low enough for me. If it is, then it all comes apart to be painted. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-28-2003, 10:08 PM	#122
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Im at the same point here. I want to get it all bolted up and see if everything is going to jive with each other. I ran into the mistake of powdercoating the frame THEN majorly changing my plans. Also I am going to set the cab on and and set the motor in to see if it clears. I dont want any suprises. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-30-2003, 10:35 PM	#123
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	well, got my lower arms yesterday and bolted things up. Had to do some pretty nice cutting on fenders to clear the tires. Also had to take out the heater box. Need to get a few different air fittings and more line and put air in the bags (re-doing the plumbing) so I can set her on the ground. I think it will lay frame on 20's though. Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-30-2003, 10:37 PM	#124
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	wow...pictures seem to be working....another? Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-30-2003, 10:42 PM	#125
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	one word------awesome. That is stunning wdz. Are you going to keep the wood look trim when you repaint?

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