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**Already Gone** · 06-13-2017, 07:13 PM

From the comment you just made I hope someone from the insurance company doesn't pay the towing and storage fees and grab the truck.. Ryan offerd to store it fro you so legally do yiou have the right to get it from the salavage yard and take control of yoiur truck> You do have the title ..

cypressbog · 06-13-2017, 07:18 PM

He has every right to go get it. He would need to pay towing and storage that is climbing higher everyday.

**Already Gone** · 06-13-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cypressbog

He has every right to go get it. He would need to pay towing and storage that is climbing higher everyday.

That is waht I was figuring and yes I forgot he'd have to pay the fees but could recoup when deal is settled.

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-13-2017, 07:26 PM

Last week I spoke to the Wapello county sheriff and he said George will need to get a lawyer involved. He will need to contact the Jasper county Sheriff's department and see if they have any info about the accident and talk to them and see if they can help him get it back. The Wapello county sheriff said this is a civil matter and they aren't allowed to get involved with civil matters. Only criminal matters. This whole situation is almost theft IMO which would be criminal I'd think. Apparently that isn't how it works from what I was told though.

George, here is the Jasper County sheriff's page.

http://www.co.jasper.ia.us/index.aspx?page=71

Last week I tried searching the reported wrecks along I-80 and found nothing reported about this particular wreck on May 17th. I'm not sure if it was wrecked in another county and since Barney's was called they drug it back to their yard and that's how it got to Jasper county?

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-13-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cypressbog

He has every right to go get it. He would need to pay towing and storage that is climbing higher everyday.

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Originally Posted by Already Gone

That is what I was figuring and yes I forgot he'd have to pay the fees but could recoup when deal is settled.

That is the first thing I told George to do. Try to pay the tow bill and storage fees to Barney and get your truck released. But I guess he, Barney, won't release it until the insurance company releases it. This is the whole thing I don't understand how they can do this. They insured the truck and load during transportation through the owner/company of the trucking company. Apparently that entitles them to owning it since it is wrecked now and is considered part of the load? I'd say no especially since they haven't settled with him on any part of it. If this is the case, shouldn't there have been some sort of contract or agreement signed by both parties before services were provided? Maybe George can get some help from the Jasper county sheriff with some luck.

**old51sedan** · 06-13-2017, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by georgieb51

Sad story here. I recently bought a 1970 Chevy 4x4 SWB (Short wide-bed) automatic, 350, with original caravan on it always owned in the desert of Elko, Nevada. I was having it shipped to me in upstate NY when the transporter went off the road and all 9 vehicles and the tractor/trailer were "Totaled". The insurance company (of the trucking company) wants to pay me $5500. and then put the truck up for salvage auction. They have no idea how rare this truck is in any form. I do not want to lose this truck to a salvage company in Iowa. Any suggestions on what to do?

I bought my truck out of CA last year and had it shipped to MI. I did insure it when I bought it though. I have Hagerty and just paid my renewal yesterday. I noticed that Hagerty's (I would think if you already had vehicles insured) gives you automatic ins. on it the day you buy it.

**Grumpy old man** · 06-13-2017, 08:01 PM

it's cheaper for them to keep it and cut you a check , that's why I suggested calling an attorney last week . I suggest you hire one in the town it's currently in before it's gone . The time for being nice has ended .

They may already own it , read the fine print in your contract , it may include a "mechanic's lien" like every other contract you sign from a muffler shop to a new car dealer on repair orders .

52napco · 06-13-2017, 08:29 PM

The towing company CANNOT HOLD YOUR TRUCK !!! The owner can get his truck from the towing company whenever he wants to. The insurance company does not own the truck.

IN SOUTH CAROLINA A TOWING COMPANY CANNOT CHARGE STORAGE UNTIL 5 DAYS AFTER THE MAILING OF CERTIFIED MAIL.DON'T MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU'VE CALLED THEM.
You should call a magistrate in the area to get the scoop on their laws. Call Barney and tell him you have a friend that's coming after the truck. If he gives u any crap tell him you are going to the magistrate and you are calling the highway patrol to file a complaint. Nobody
Except you has any legal rights to the truck.PERIOD.
I run a towing biz here so if you need any help call me 864 520 4611

**Grumpy old man** · 06-13-2017, 08:44 PM

Some good info here .

http://insurancelaw.org.au/factsheet...off-factsheet/

**georgieb51** · 06-14-2017, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

That is the first thing I told George to do. Try to pay the tow bill and storage fees to Barney and get your truck released. But I guess he, Barney, won't release it until the insurance company releases it. This is the whole thing I don't understand how they can do this. They insured the truck and load during transportation through the owner/company of the trucking company. Apparently that entitles them to owning it since it is wrecked now and is considered part of the load? I'd say no especially since they haven't settled with him on any part of it. If this is the case, shouldn't there have been some sort of contract or agreement signed by both parties before services were provided? Maybe George can get some help from the Jasper county sheriff with some luck.

Sometime today I will call Barney and ask him what it would take to get my truck into Ryan's hands. I have a colonoscopy scheduled for tomorrow and I am not looking forward to the prep I have to do later on today. I won't be in great shape for making any calls tomorrow either. I am sure Barney has dealt with this before. I would just like hear him tell me what he can or cannot do for me at this point. Then if I need to get a lawyer involved I can tell him exactly what sort of help I need. Once again, thanks for all the support.

And yes, you are right Ryan. I think the accident occurred on exit 76? It was down the road aways and probably not in Barney's county.

**Already Gone** · 06-14-2017, 11:36 AM

Here ya go George another CL Find. I'll bet ya its a " Ran when parked " truck

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6175521915.html

**georgieb51** · 06-14-2017, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Already Gone

Here ya go George another CL Find. I'll bet ya its a " Ran when parked " truck

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6175521915.html

WOW! I think the back window tells me what the owner is smoking. It says "WILD BILL TATOO". He must be high on something. I cannot imagine anyone paying what he wants for this truck-- and it is not a short bed either. I appreciate you keeping me informed!

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-14-2017, 04:52 PM

George, that truck only has 2 stake pockets. I'm pretty sure it is a short bed. Good luck with your procedure too.

**georgieb51** · 06-14-2017, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

George, that truck only has 2 stake pockets. I'm pretty sure it is a short bed. Good luck with your procedure too.

OOOPS! You are absolutely correct! Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe I should buy it as a backup?

rkeller411 · 06-16-2017, 07:14 PM

I have a recently purchased 72 SWB Cheyenne 4x4 unmolested if you need comparison for insurance.

**Grumpy old man** · 06-16-2017, 08:03 PM

Well ... By now you may have had the time to contact an attorney only to hear the costs to try to save it from the salvage auction may be prohibitive ? And if he was able to save it for you it would have a salvage title ? I wish you the best but when these larger haulers with large insurance policies and corporate attorneys it just may not be worth all the costs involved ? Maybe he can negotiate a good payoff for you ?

**georgieb51** · 06-16-2017, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rkeller411

I have a recently purchased 72 SWB Cheyenne 4x4 unmolested if you need comparison for insurance.

Thanks for your offer of help. I think a real-life comparison would be valuable. II wrote you a message through the private Messaging in case you feel more comfortable sharing details in private. But this can also be an educational experience for others as well. Thanks, George.

Moose Monkey · 06-17-2017, 08:18 AM

Hoping all when as well as possible the other day. Health and truck .everyone is hoping the best.

**georgieb51** · 06-17-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose Monkey

Hoping all when as well as possible the other day. Health and truck .everyone is hoping the best.

Thanks MM. Colonoscopy went better than ever. Found only one very tiny polyp smaller than a pinhead, so now I do not have to come back for another 5 years, age 71. No guarantee i will be around then but I do not expect to be going anywhere soon! I talked on the phone with Barney (the wrecker) and he is definitely on my side. My truck is locked up inside and is not going anywhere! He knows the whole routine whereby adjusters sometimes have someone in a favorite salvage yard. He too is suspicious of the adjuster, but he is on my side and has a note on the truck that it is not to be let out without permission from Me. I have faith it will all work out OK as long as I am patient. Barney would even let it out now but I would have to pay off $600 in storage fees (only $20/day-- I thought it would be more) that he says the insurance folks should pay off. He says if I pay it off it will just mess them up even further. Thanks again, George.

52napco · 06-17-2017, 06:53 PM

Not telling what to do but ......pay the $600 and get your truck out of there and save the receipt. What if the insurance company drags their feet for a month only to offer you $2500
Storage will eat it up quick and if Barney has not sent you certified mail he can't charge storage...

slikside · 06-17-2017, 07:04 PM

He says if I pay it off it will just mess them up even further. Thanks again, George.

Maybe so, but at least the question of who gets your truck will be definitely answered!

Go get it and worry about complications later.

**kwmech** · 06-17-2017, 07:08 PM

If it were my truck I'd have bailed it out of there by now. Possession is 9/10ths. I think everybody is jerking you around... Barneys included

**dmjlambert** · 06-17-2017, 07:37 PM

Hi georgieb51, I have been watching this thread with interest. I'm sorry to hear about your "total" loss. If it were me, I think I would just get the truck out of there ASAP and back into my hands, let the paperwork be "messed up" by $600 worth after paying the storage fees, and let the insurance company either pay me something for the loss, or not, later.

**georgieb51** · 06-17-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dmjlambert

Hi georgieb51, I have been watching this thread with interest. I'm sorry to hear about your "total" loss. If it were me, I think I would just get the truck out of there ASAP and back into my hands, let the paperwork be "messed up" by $600 worth after paying the storage fees, and let the insurance company either pay me something for the loss, or not, later.

Thanks folks. I get the hint. I will have a talk with Barney on Monday.

TCCGRIZ · 06-18-2017, 08:37 AM

I'm with everyone else get it the heck out of there.
Last people I would trust is an insurance co. and some guy I never met.
If you need help with the $600.00
I'll donate a few bucks to your cause . I hate to see a guy and his truck getting jerked around .

06-13-2017, 07:13 PM	#101
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,144	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? From the comment you just made I hope someone from the insurance company doesn't pay the towing and storage fees and grab the truck.. Ryan offerd to store it fro you so legally do yiou have the right to get it from the salavage yard and take control of yoiur truck> You do have the title .. __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

06-13-2017, 07:18 PM	#102
cypressbog Go Pack Go! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Green Bay Posts: 2,669	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? He has every right to go get it. He would need to pay towing and storage that is climbing higher everyday.

06-13-2017, 07:26 PM	#104
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Last week I spoke to the Wapello county sheriff and he said George will need to get a lawyer involved. He will need to contact the Jasper county Sheriff's department and see if they have any info about the accident and talk to them and see if they can help him get it back. The Wapello county sheriff said this is a civil matter and they aren't allowed to get involved with civil matters. Only criminal matters. This whole situation is almost theft IMO which would be criminal I'd think. Apparently that isn't how it works from what I was told though. George, here is the Jasper County sheriff's page. http://www.co.jasper.ia.us/index.aspx?page=71 Last week I tried searching the reported wrecks along I-80 and found nothing reported about this particular wreck on May 17th. I'm not sure if it was wrecked in another county and since Barney's was called they drug it back to their yard and that's how it got to Jasper county? __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.* Last edited by Dieselwrencher; 06-13-2017 at 07:32 PM.

06-13-2017, 08:01 PM	#107
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? it's cheaper for them to keep it and cut you a check , that's why I suggested calling an attorney last week . I suggest you hire one in the town it's currently in before it's gone . The time for being nice has ended . They may already own it , read the fine print in your contract , it may include a "mechanic's lien" like every other contract you sign from a muffler shop to a new car dealer on repair orders . Last edited by Grumpy old man; 06-13-2017 at 08:08 PM.

06-13-2017, 08:29 PM	#108
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? The towing company CANNOT HOLD YOUR TRUCK !!! The owner can get his truck from the towing company whenever he wants to. The insurance company does not own the truck. IN SOUTH CAROLINA A TOWING COMPANY CANNOT CHARGE STORAGE UNTIL 5 DAYS AFTER THE MAILING OF CERTIFIED MAIL.DON'T MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU'VE CALLED THEM. You should call a magistrate in the area to get the scoop on their laws. Call Barney and tell him you have a friend that's coming after the truck. If he gives u any crap tell him you are going to the magistrate and you are calling the highway patrol to file a complaint. Nobody Except you has any legal rights to the truck.PERIOD. I run a towing biz here so if you need any help call me 864 520 4611

06-13-2017, 08:44 PM	#109
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Some good info here . http://insurancelaw.org.au/factsheet...off-factsheet/

06-14-2017, 11:36 AM	#111
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,144	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Here ya go George another CL Find. I'll bet ya its a " Ran when parked " truck https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6175521915.html __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

06-14-2017, 04:52 PM	#113
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? George, that truck only has 2 stake pockets. I'm pretty sure it is a short bed. Good luck with your procedure too. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-16-2017, 07:14 PM	#115
rkeller411 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Alta Loma, CA Posts: 42	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? I have a recently purchased 72 SWB Cheyenne 4x4 unmolested if you need comparison for insurance.

06-16-2017, 08:03 PM	#116
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Well ... By now you may have had the time to contact an attorney only to hear the costs to try to save it from the salvage auction may be prohibitive ? And if he was able to save it for you it would have a salvage title ? I wish you the best but when these larger haulers with large insurance policies and corporate attorneys it just may not be worth all the costs involved ? Maybe he can negotiate a good payoff for you ?

06-17-2017, 08:18 AM	#118
Moose Monkey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: south jersey Posts: 118	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Hoping all when as well as possible the other day. Health and truck .everyone is hoping the best. __________________ 70 c 10 daily Rider

06-17-2017, 06:53 PM	#120
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Not telling what to do but ......pay the $600 and get your truck out of there and save the receipt. What if the insurance company drags their feet for a month only to offer you $2500 Storage will eat it up quick and if Barney has not sent you certified mail he can't charge storage...

06-17-2017, 07:04 PM	#121
slikside Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Diego Co. Posts: 1,179	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? He says if I pay it off it will just mess them up even further. Thanks again, George. Maybe so, but at least the question of who gets your truck will be definitely answered! Go get it and worry about complications later. __________________ 1972 Chevy C-10, SWB, Fleet, 350/350, PS, PB, HEI, mostly stock, Survivor.

06-17-2017, 07:08 PM	#122
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,650	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? If it were my truck I'd have bailed it out of there by now. Possession is 9/10ths. I think everybody is jerking you around... Barneys included

06-17-2017, 07:37 PM	#123
dmjlambert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 3,885	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? Hi georgieb51, I have been watching this thread with interest. I'm sorry to hear about your "total" loss. If it were me, I think I would just get the truck out of there ASAP and back into my hands, let the paperwork be "messed up" by $600 worth after paying the storage fees, and let the insurance company either pay me something for the loss, or not, later.



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06-18-2017, 08:37 AM	#125
TCCGRIZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Butte America Posts: 277	Re: SWB 4x4 was totaled. Now what? Can I get it back? I'm with everyone else get it the heck out of there. Last people I would trust is an insurance co. and some guy I never met. If you need help with the $600.00 I'll donate a few bucks to your cause . I hate to see a guy and his truck getting jerked around .

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