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Old 12-29-2013, 08:58 PM   #1
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Ooh, golf addiction rears its ugly head. Work looks good!
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:54 PM   #2
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Awesome!! Looking good Mike and nice work!
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Well, the Oklahoma weather was awesome Friday and Saturday. Did you confine yourself to the shop or did you sneak away to the course?
No I worked on my project and helped Landen with his. No golf in a long time. Back to winter today.... Ready for spring.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:40 PM   #3
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I was looking at some old photos and I just noticed my original paint factory fender I'm using had a gap issue straight from GM:
It's like the profile of the back of the fender is different than the door. These are the same cab, fender and door I'm using.
This might explain some of my gap issues.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:21 PM   #4
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The trim appears to be farther off than the body lines, but you're right -
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:32 PM   #5
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The trim appears to be farther off than the body lines, but you're right -
The trim is off bad too but the fender sits out past the edge of the door, which means to make it even I would have to shim the hinges to make it match. I have adjusted the door outward on the hinge and the gap at the top inside (where the seal hits) has a gap. Basically, I'm stuck unless I change the door, the fender or both.

I'm going to see if I have any more pictures of the donor truck from the side or looking toward the front.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #6
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The trim is off bad too but the fender sits out past the edge of the door, which means to make it even I would have to shim the hinges to make it match. I have adjusted the door outward on the hinge and the gap at the top inside (where the seal hits) has a gap. Basically, I'm stuck unless I change the door, the fender or both.

I'm going to see if I have any more pictures of the donor truck from the side or looking toward the front.
What about going the other way and taking a cut off wheel gap out of where the fender bolts up and welding it back together? Im not sure what those year fenders look like as far as bolting up to know for sure..
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:19 PM   #7
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What about going the other way and taking a cut off wheel gap out of where the fender bolts up and welding it back together? Im not sure what those year fenders look like as far as bolting up to know for sure..
The problem with doing this, the hood has to have a gap to open properly. If I did this, I would have to cut the hood down too. I really don't want to do that. I cut down the bottom of the door where the yellow tap was the other day and it was major pain. I still have to re do the bodywork on the bottom of the door now.

NOTE TO SELF. Set all gaps on the truck before beginning any body work! I did the door gaps with my cab on the dolly but not with the fenders.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:20 PM   #8
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The problem with doing this, the hood has to have a gap to open properly. If I did this, I would have to cut the hood down too. I really don't want to do that. I cut down the bottom of the door where the yellow tap was the other day and it was major pain. I still have to re do the bodywork on the bottom of the door now.

NOTE TO SELF. Set all gaps on the truck before beginning any body work! I did the door gaps with my cab on the dolly but not with the fenders.
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Ah yeah i didnt even think about that...
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:10 PM   #9
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I see the cowl is on in the pictures, but have you checked the gaps for the cowl vs the fender & cab? I ask because I understand your pain with doing body work first, then checking gaps and want to save you some effort if you haven't checked your cowl too. I hope you have already checked this and there isn't a problem. *fingers crossed*

If you move the door out to line up with the fender, would a new seal fix the gap for the door seal? I assume you haven't installed new seals since it's not painted yet.
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:31 PM   #10
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I see the cowl is on in the pictures, but have you checked the gaps for the cowl vs the fender & cab? I ask because I understand your pain with doing body work first, then checking gaps and want to save you some effort if you haven't checked your cowl too. I hope you have already checked this and there isn't a problem. *fingers crossed*

If you move the door out to line up with the fender, would a new seal fix the gap for the door seal? I assume you haven't installed new seals since it's not painted yet.
I think the cowl will gap out good from what I have checked. The bolts look like they will fall right in and yes there will be some shims required.
Yes, I did try my new seal on the driver side. It's the push on type so no worries with glue. I can get the door to fit pretty good with the seal but if I adjust it out to match closer to the fender it has a gap at the top between the door and seal.
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:36 PM   #11
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Can you sneak the door out a bit to match? I had to on Yeller. You think this is bad, try an aftermarket door! Never. Again. You could maybe mill the slots in the upper hinge to get you a little more "out". I had to do quite a bit of completely painted juggling on Yeller, and it's still not quite right. Check your cowl, as well. They can be waaaaay outta whack. Mine was. Good luck!
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #12
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Can you sneak the door out a bit to match? I had to on Yeller. You think this is bad, try an aftermarket door! Never. Again. You could maybe mill the slots in the upper hinge to get you a little more "out". I had to do quite a bit of completely painted juggling on Yeller, and it's still not quite right. Check your cowl, as well. They can be waaaaay outta whack. Mine was. Good luck!
I could adjust the door out enough to match the top of the fender but then the seal won't touch. I'm more than likely just going to have to live with some mismatch.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:13 PM   #13
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So as I thought these panels didn't fit too good from the factory. Here is a pic of the same cab, fender and door before and after.













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Old 12-30-2013, 10:24 PM   #14
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Trucks coming along nicely, I liked one of your patches using what looked like shelving; I nearly did the same thing today.
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Trucks coming along nicely, I liked one of your patches using what looked like shelving; I nearly did the same thing today.
Thanks for checking out my build. Sorry the thread is so long. I am slow....
I assume you are talking about THIS patch panel? I used some sheet metal from the scrap yard that is used to make HVAC cabinets. It was the same thickness as the original floor metal. I used it for several patches, worked great. I also is galvenized so it should resist rust better.
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:51 AM   #16
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Nice progress brother! Be patient and dont rush it because you will hate it for years until you fix it "again", lol...
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Thanks for checking out my build. Sorry the thread is so long. I am slow....
I assume you are talking about THIS patch panel? I used some sheet metal from the scrap yard that is used to make HVAC cabinets. It was the same thickness as the original floor metal. I used it for several patches, worked great. I also is galvenized so it should resist rust better.
Yep thats it. I think it was a pretty smart thing to do. I went and got a sheet of 18ga and half of it is rusting away in my garage.
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Nice progress brother! Be patient and dont rush it because you will hate it for years until you fix it "again", lol...
Thanks Eddie. I haven't rushed anything too much yet. This is my 4th winter on this one.....

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WOW!! Just read the entire thread and I am very impressed. You are on the down hill roll of a very nice truck build! Keep up the good work, I'll be watching for updates.
Thanks Buck. I am trying to build as nice of a truck as I can for the cheapest price. At times it's tough but I have done pretty good up to this point. I will have to go back and upgrade things at some point, but I want to drive this thing.
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Yep thats it. I think it was a pretty smart thing to do. I went and got a sheet of 18ga and half of it is rusting away in my garage.
Thanks. I hate rust as much as the next guy. I'm thinking this truck should last another 40 years.....
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:43 AM   #19
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WOW!! Just read the entire thread and I am very impressed. You are on the down hill roll of a very nice truck build! Keep up the good work, I'll be watching for updates.
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Old 01-03-2014, 03:19 PM   #20
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You're going to be driving this thing in no time! You've done a kick ass job with all your repair work.
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You're going to be driving this thing in no time! You've done a kick ass job with all your repair work.
Thanks Jason. I want to be driving it as soon as I can. Winter needs to give us a break!
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Not much new here I have been doing some busy work. Blasting parts to put this thing together one of these days.



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I have been helping a little on this too:





I'm proud of my son Landen (eightiesonly) he completely rewired the harness and did most of the install by himself.
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Can't wait till the day we are both cruising in our old Chevys!
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Not much new here I have been doing some busy work. Blasting parts to put this thing together one of these days.



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I have been helping a little on this too:





I'm proud of my son Landen (eightiesonly) he completely rewired the harness and did most of the install by himself.
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Can't wait till the day we are both cruising in our old Chevys!


Landen did a great job... Looking forward to see more progress on yours...
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Landen did a great job... Looking forward to see more progress on yours...
Thanks Mark. He has learned a bunch from the swap. We are going to try to button his up today if possible. I'll be back on mine soon. Well, if it warms up a little
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What is your plan for the blasted parts, powder or paint? Your son did a rally good job on the engine swap. I'll have to check out the thread.
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