Project Vitamin C-10

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 198plus

What kind of goodies did you find..........Probably the ones I was looking for and couldn't find

Don't tell me you walked away empty handed.

[joe231]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I will be doing a how too on rebuilding the vent window assy once I figure it out.

I'll be waiting....

looks like fun and you did score some cool stuff


I'd say grind away on the frame

[TimE]

Those are some nice looking headers. I'd just clearance the frame a little.

Just curious, why don't you put a big block in your truck?

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by joe231

I'll be waiting....

looks like fun and you did score some cool stuff


I'd say grind away on the frame

Originally Posted by TimE

Those are some nice looking headers. I'd just clearance the frame a little.

Just curious, why don't you put a big block in your truck?

Oh believe me I wanted too. But, I had this 383 on the stand for 8-9 years so I couldn't justify not using it.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

[COLOR="Blue"] I'm thinking of making them work. What do ya'll think?

I'd make them work. They're good looking headers. It would be a shame to grind on your finished frame though. How about some nice small dents in the header pipes to make them clear? Would it be noticeable being that low?

[shrunken66stroker]

Originally Posted by Strodder

I'd make them work. They're good looking headers. It would be a shame to grind on your finished frame though. How about some nice small dents in the header pipes to make them clear? Would it be noticeable being that low?

My frame isn't finished yet. I'll take a crack at them if you don't use em'. What year block do you have?

[ruffrida2005]

Those are nice headers. I would trim the frame you can always touch it up. My headers have a lot of room.

[scotts62]

Looks good Alan! Here is where it all starts coming together

Ill be watching

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

I'd make them work. They're good looking headers. It would be a shame to grind on your finished frame though. How about some nice small dents in the header pipes to make them clear? Would it be noticeable being that low?

I got the Lt side in by trimming the frame and collector. Read on

Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker

My frame isn't finished yet. I'll take a crack at them if you don't use em'. What year block do you have?

In hindsight I should have let you see what you could do, but I got in to deep and had to keep going.

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

Those are nice headers. I would trim the frame you can always touch it up. My headers have a lot of room.

I need to trim the RT side a little to keep it from rubbing.

Originally Posted by scotts62

Looks good Alan! Here is where it all starts coming together

Ill be watching

Thanks Scott. I'm at one of those times when I wonder if it will ever be on the street again.

I have spent the last 2 nights grinding, installing, marking, removing repeat that about 20 times. I wanted to keep the grinding to a minimum. Thats why I took a little at a time.

I would not suggest anyone using these headers on their 63-66 trucks. I'm not very happy with the left side. I started by trimming the upper part of the rail. Then noticed the collector was hitting the lower part of the rail. I should have stopped there, but NO I didn't. I figured a little more, boy was I wrong. That's what I get for trying to save a buck. It usually cost more in the long run.

I know this is a duplicate pic, but I'm using it for comparision from LT to RT. If the pipes would have started to turn like the RT side the LT side would have fit great. Notice the distance from the head before the Lt tubes start to bend. There is about an inch difference. You can see the upper part of the rail to header clearance now on the LT side. That's the way it is now. I still need to remove one more time and touch up the rail and hopefully reinstall for the final time.





Here is the collector on the LT side. The RT side doesn't hit.



This is the notch I trimmed in the collector. As soon as I hit the flange of the tube I quit.



I'm taking the night off I need to rest.

[ruffrida2005]

Man that sucks you had a trim a lot off the frame. I wonder if it would have been easier to cut the headers at the flange and suck it in some!

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

Man that sucks you had a trim a lot off the frame. I wonder if it would have been easier to cut the headers at the flange and suck it in some!

It crossed my mind, but then I 'd have to get them recoated. I did think of dimpling the tubes like Dennis had mentioned, but the main issue was the collector. This was not one of my better decisions by using these. Live and learn.

[BuiltByBrooks]

look'n really good Alan...

[joe231]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

It crossed my mind, but then I 'd have to get them recoated. I did think of dimpling the tubes like Dennis had mentioned, but the main issue was the collector. This was not one of my better decisions by using these. Live and learn.

all it does is make your truck more "CUSTOM"
looks good!!

[4dranch]

Like Joe said......CUSTOM........
Nice work Alan..Thanks for sharing your good days and your bad days
It's all good days for us when you post your progress

[MacAttack]

Originally Posted by 4dranch

It's all good days for us when you post your progress

True Dat! Thanks for all your input, Alan - hard knock or not.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

It crossed my mind, but then I 'd have to get them recoated. I did think of dimpling the tubes like Dennis had mentioned, but the main issue was the collector. This was not one of my better decisions by using these. Live and learn.

It looks a little close to the frame. Will it hit when the engine torques? Clean job though. Looks good.

[jgh64pkup]

it looks good i would have used them

[Inverter]

Looks good. Any reason you went w/a mid length? I had the flow techs on my 98. Those look a little better crafted and maybe the coating wont come off like the holley's.

Love the detailed and clean assembly. Your my Hero.

[madmatt54]

Like Strodder said, have you taken into account the engine torque? It looks like the first time you hit hit the gas, the left side collector and right side header tubes are going to hit their respective frame rails. Remember, 383s like to twist on those motor mounts.

[198plus]

Alan you'll have to use solid motor mounts.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Morbid Fabrication

look'n really good Alan...

Originally Posted by joe231

all it does is make your truck more "CUSTOM" looks good!!

Custom hack job.

Originally Posted by 4dranch

Like Joe said......CUSTOM........
Nice work Alan..Thanks for sharing your good days and your bad days
It's all good days for us when you post your progress

It can't be a bed of roses all of the time.

Originally Posted by MacAttack

True Dat! Thanks for all your input, Alan - hard knock or not.

Originally Posted by Strodder

It looks a little close to the frame. Will it hit when the engine torques? Clean job though. Looks good.

Originally Posted by jgh64pkup

it looks good i would have used them

Here's your chance they are for sale. There is a link a little further down

Originally Posted by Inverter

Looks good. Any reason you went w/a mid length? I had the flow techs on my 98. Those look a little better crafted and maybe the coating wont come off like the holley's.

Love the detailed and clean assembly. Your my Hero.

I wanted the shorty to clean up the bottom. I don't like seeing collectors hanging down. Thanks for the comment. I don't feel like I'm a hero just a Dumb A$$ right now. I went out to the shop tonight and got disgusted with what I did to my frame. I'm $hit canning this idea and licking my wounds and get some headers that fit.

Originally Posted by madmatt54

Like Strodder said, have you taken into account the engine torque? It looks like the first time you hit hit the gas, the left side collector and right side header tubes are going to hit their respective frame rails. Remember, 383s like to twist on those motor mounts.

I will be putting these headers up for sale in the for sale section. Here is a LINKY

Originally Posted by 198plus

Alan you'll have to use solid motor mounts.

Thanks for the info.

[Inverter]

Oh Hell,dont sweat it man. It wont be the last thing that doesnt work out. Worst case,pull the motor and front sheetmetal and patch the rails.
Dont let it bother you,its only metal,whip it back in shape.

[ruffrida2005]

Hey Alan you might want to try the ones I have, Hooker 2466HKR, These are painted. But they do have ceramic coated also. 2466-1HKR. They fit really nice. I'll get a pic up tomorrow of mine on the motor and frame

[Strodder]

That's too bad Allan. Those were nice headers. I don't think the frame looks that bad. Do you think you weakened it by notching it? If so just brace it with a "L" angle steel, drill it, paint it and bolt it in top & side of frame. Just a brain fart, but it might work.

Lesson learned,
1. fabricate
2. assemble complete vehicle
3. fix mistakes
4. disassemble completely
5. then paint
6. final assembly

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Inverter

Oh Hell,dont sweat it man. It wont be the last thing that doesnt work out. Worst case,pull the motor and front sheetmetal and patch the rails.
Dont let it bother you,its only metal,whip it back in shape.

I'm glad were here to pull each other up when they fall. Thanks

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

Hey Alan you might want to try the ones I have, Hooker 2466HKR, These are painted. But they do have ceramic coated also. 2466-1HKR. They fit really nice. I'll get a pic up tomorrow of mine on the motor and frame

Thanks Man! I went thru my build last night looking for headers people had suggested. Post upome pics that would be great.

Originally Posted by Strodder

That's too bad Allan. Those were nice headers. I don't think the frame looks that bad. Do you think you weakened it by notching it? If so just brace it with a "L" angle steel, drill it, paint it and bolt it in top & side of frame. Just a brain fart, but it might work.

Lesson learned,
1. fabricate
2. assemble complete vehicle
3. fix mistakes
4. disassemble completely
5. then paint
6. final assembly

I'm just demonstrating the importance of pre fitting.