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Old 03-28-2015, 07:32 PM   #1301
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Re: Restoring Rusty

WOW you are really a jack of all trades kinda guy, good to see some more progress
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:11 PM   #1302
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Could you get the front edge properly with it hanging in that orientation? I would have thought it would be easier to spin it 180 degrees.
Originally I had it hanging the other way, but the bungee cords kept rubbing against the front lip, so I flipped it upside down, I had to lay on my back on the ground and shoot the front of the hood that way, the entire operation was a major PIA I also had to squeez in on the sides to paint the sides of it
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:05 PM   #1303
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Aaah, that makes sense. Well hey, you got it done!
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Old 03-29-2015, 02:47 PM   #1304
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Looks good man. I can't wait to see how the hood turns out. My hood is bent so bad it looks like a "U". Almost but not all the way...lol.
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:35 PM   #1305
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Hope you don't get bugs in the paint. Should have draped mosquito netting over the ole swing set.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:23 PM   #1306
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Hope you don't get bugs in the paint. Should have draped mosquito netting over the ole swing set.
Ha, only one gnat landed on it, unlike the tailgate which I shot on the grass, that was a fly trap for sure, LOL
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:26 PM   #1307
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Looks good man. I can't wait to see how the hood turns out. My hood is bent so bad it looks like a "U". Almost but not all the way...lol.
Maybe this will give you an idea, here's how it all went down

I will share some more pics once it's on the truck and out of the garage
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:36 PM   #1308
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not sure you guys seen my other thread called Truck Won't Start No Sounds No Noises Nothing it's what has been keeping me busy and sleepless the last few days and nights

anywho since it deals with the ignition I will share some pics of me tearing up the steering column area so we can see what lurks beneath

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Old 03-29-2015, 08:46 PM   #1309
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couple more shots of the ignition switch itself

on mine not all the blades are used, I'm sure yours will differ
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:13 PM   #1310
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Could this been the problem with your truck not wanting to start the first go around? Little electrics are a pain in the butt aren't they.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:05 PM   #1311
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Could this been the problem with your truck not wanting to start the first go around? Little electrics are a pain in the butt aren't they.
Actually no sir, the switch is fine, I was able to get the truck to turn over by manipulating it with a flat screw driver, you know sliding that black slider back and forth to simulate key movement

I think a broken Ignition Lock Cylinder is more like the culprit as the end part has broken into three pieces, it is that part that pushes on a metal rod which runs down the steering column down to the actual ignition switch, it's how they did back in the day, when Mechanical Solutions ruled the world
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:38 PM   #1312
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Actually no sir, the switch is fine, I was able to get the truck to turn over by manipulating it with a flat screw driver, you know sliding that black slider back and forth to simulate key movement

I think a broken Ignition Lock Cylinder is more like the culprit as the end part has broken into three pieces, it is that part that pushes on a metal rod which runs down the steering column down to the actual ignition switch, it's how they did back in the day, when Mechanical Solutions ruled the world
In your photo you are missing the outer case to that cylinder. It is still in the column I am assuming.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:18 PM   #1313
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In your photo you are missing the outer case to that cylinder. It is still in the column I am assuming.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:35 PM   #1314
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Damn you're good
Looks like you got it all now.
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:38 PM   #1315
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Hood turned out nice!
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:02 PM   #1316
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did the lock cylinder fix the problem? otherwise it could be a broken ignition rack or that plastic gear. (little more down the column)
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:29 AM   #1317
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Hood turned out nice!
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:32 AM   #1318
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did the lock cylinder fix the problem? otherwise it could be a broken ignition rack or that plastic gear. (little more down the column)
good point, the cylinder was the big problem, but the gear was missing a tooth too, so I had to order one, once it comes in in a couple of days I can reassembly the whole thing, I do yap about it in that other Truck Won't Start No Sounds No Noises Nothing thread

here's a pic of that sector gear with one tooth missing
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:54 AM   #1319
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Oh my goodness.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:00 AM   #1320
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good point, the cylinder was the big problem, but the gear was missing a tooth too, so I had to order one, once it comes in in a couple of days I can reassembly the whole thing, I do yap about it in that other Truck Won't Start No Sounds No Noises Nothing thread

here's a pic of that sector gear with one tooth missing
The sector gear probably took a hit from the lock cylinder falling apart. The parts got to go somewhere and plastic generally loses to metal
By the way the hood turned out great!
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for anyone wanting to see a in depth view of the steering column being taken apart:
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:19 AM   #1322
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The sector gear probably took a hit from the lock cylinder falling apart. The parts got to go somewhere and plastic generally loses to metal
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By the way the hood turned out great!
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:26 AM   #1323
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found this page on the interwebs that explains what each wire does on the turn signal switch wiring harness ie the non ignition switch wires that run up the steering column

this isn't the exact part / plug match but the wires seem identical, so it might could help somebody out, I know it beats the wiring schematics for me anyways

white - stop lamp switch (what is that?)

green - right rear turn signal
yellow - left rear turn signal

purple - turn flasher (what is that?)

brown - hazard flasher

dark blue - right front turn signal
light blue - left front turn signal

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Old 03-31-2015, 02:40 AM   #1324
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this shows what the pins on the ignition switch are, mine doesn't use all of them but the ones that it uses match
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:47 AM   #1325
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Diagram of the two plugs the white one and the black one that plug in to the ignition switch and what they do


WHITE CONNECTOR

Pink - Start & Run (connect this to the ignition) ... Pink is ignition, pink is ignition, pink...

Purple - Start (connect this to the starter solenoid)... Purple is starter, purple is starter...

Red - This is the Battery connection bringing power into the switch. Red is usually power, red...

Brown - Accessory & Run (Accessories....)


BLACK CONNECTOR

Red - This is the Battery connection bringing power into the switch.

Orange - Run (connect this to power anything in the Run state) I also have a Dark Brown / White Stripe wire going here, not sure what it's for

Light Brown / Black Stripe - Start position switches this lead to ground
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