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Old 02-22-2013, 12:32 AM   #1
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I have to port a 24v head, and then it's back on this truck. It's sitting in the shop now so it doesn't get full of snow. I'm debating doing air ride on the rear, but it might have to wait because I have a new project for the wife to drive that is a big project too..........
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:47 PM   #3
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so, this is done now right?
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Yesterday I started unloading the crap out of the cab. I need to make a list of what still needs to be done, and what parts are needed to be purchased or found. After I get the 24v head done that I'm porting, I'll remove the box and get on boxing the frame and adding some cross members and my GN hitch. I'd really like to do air ride on the rear, but for now the leaf springs are going to have to stay. My project to time list isn't jiving. I want my 40 Ford running by June, need to get the Excursion running soon, the Longhorn needs finished, and we've got a 68 Mustang to restore for my Mother before June or July. I need 3 more bays and 3 guys. I did find my steering shaft and painted it yesterday. I need to get the steering column in it and start getting wiring done so I can get to a point of a test fire........................... That's right after I change my trans cross member and get the frame boxed. There's a guy in Co who I need to kick in the nads. Hey, just sayin. I also will be ordering some zero rate off set add a leaves to get my axles centered in the wheel wells. It's driving me nuts how they are.
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I'd really like to do air ride on the rear, but for now the leaf springs are going to have to stay..
i seen a leaf to air ride conversion a long while back in an article about budget dragcars the man lopped most of the rearpart of the leafsprings off and used the front part as tractionarms he put the airbags on top of his rearaxle , he didnt use any airride stuff just some plastic airhose and two schradervalves once set he left it as it was

the front part of the leafspring alowed for some flex and he used the stock eeeh panhart bar for the side to side stuff , the only thing i kept thinking of was : i hope the front eyes of those leafsprings are strong enough or he be leaving the rearaxle on the startingline
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:31 PM   #6
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Yesterday I started unloading the crap out of the cab. I need to make a list of what still needs to be done, and what parts are needed to be purchased or found. After I get the 24v head done that I'm porting, I'll remove the box and get on boxing the frame and adding some cross members and my GN hitch. I'd really like to do air ride on the rear, but for now the leaf springs are going to have to stay. My project to time list isn't jiving. I want my 40 Ford running by June, need to get the Excursion running soon, the Longhorn needs finished, and we've got a 68 Mustang to restore for my Mother before June or July. I need 3 more bays and 3 guys. I did find my steering shaft and painted it yesterday. I need to get the steering column in it and start getting wiring done so I can get to a point of a test fire........................... That's right after I change my trans cross member and get the frame boxed. There's a guy in Co who I need to kick in the nads. Hey, just sayin. I also will be ordering some zero rate off set add a leaves to get my axles centered in the wheel wells. It's driving me nuts how they are.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:15 PM   #7
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Yesterday I started unloading the crap out of the cab. I need to make a list of what still needs to be done, and what parts are needed to be purchased or found. After I get the 24v head done that I'm porting, I'll remove the box and get on boxing the frame and adding some cross members and my GN hitch. I'd really like to do air ride on the rear, but for now the leaf springs are going to have to stay. My project to time list isn't jiving. I want my 40 Ford running by June, need to get the Excursion running soon, the Longhorn needs finished, and we've got a 68 Mustang to restore for my Mother before June or July. I need 3 more bays and 3 guys. I did find my steering shaft and painted it yesterday. I need to get the steering column in it and start getting wiring done so I can get to a point of a test fire........................... That's right after I change my trans cross member and get the frame boxed. There's a guy in Co who I need to kick in the nads. Hey, just sayin. I also will be ordering some zero rate off set add a leaves to get my axles centered in the wheel wells. It's driving me nuts how they are.
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Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion

Hey your talking to the king of projects....I don't even know how many I am working on anymore. I am looking forward to seeing that truck of yours on the road soon....you'll get it all done man, it just takes time I have faith in ya....lol
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Boxing the frame is totally awesome, but who would do all that and skip bagging the rear?























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how far do you need to offset the front axle?
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how far do you need to offset the front axle?
IDK yet. Whatever it takes to get the wheel centered in the wheel well.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:01 PM   #12
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you should find out, i might be convinced to make a set of offset zero rates...

i am pretty sure i can make them out of 1/2" so it doesnt alter the height much

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Why do you want to box the frame? the longhorn frame has a high modulus (resistant to bending) to begin with. Its a one ton frame.
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Why do you want to box the frame? the longhorn frame has a high modulus (resistant to bending) to begin with. Its a one ton frame.
Because a Cummins weighs 400 lbs more than a big block chevy and makes much more torque.
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Because a Cummins weighs 400 lbs more than a big block chevy and makes much more torque.
The older dodges with cummins didn't have a boxed frame (making assumption here) and the longhorn frame would handle more than a big block since the big blocks worked well in the lighter c20 frames.
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The older dodges with cummins didn't have a boxed frame (making assumption here) and the longhorn frame would handle more than a big block since the big blocks worked well in the lighter c20 frames.
The older dodges also had a ton of problems with cracked frames.
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you should find out, i might be convinced to make a set of offset zero rates...

i am pretty sure i can make them out of 1/2" so it doesnt alter the height much

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Of course, after I ordered mine already. Thanks buddy!

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Why do you want to box the frame? the longhorn frame has a high modulus (resistant to bending) to begin with. Its a one ton frame.
Because if I don't, I'll never hear the end of it from a couple of net thugs.

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The older dodges also had a ton of problems with cracked frames.
The biggest problem were their front frame horns. It was a really chitty design. They also had steering box frame area cracking issues too. It also couldn't have helped that those frames were started in the early 70's and just modified clear up until the early 90's.
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Why do you want to box the frame? the longhorn frame has a high modulus (resistant to bending) to begin with. Its a one ton frame.
700HP/1400LBS FT of torque is a good start to why its getting boxed.
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700HP/1400LBS FT of torque is a good start to why its getting boxed.
Wow, thats crazy power. makes sense given that
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thats... wow. i deleted my complement cuz it wasn't big enough.
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thats... wow. i deleted my complement cuz it wasn't big enough.
It definitely has the fuel and air for 700hp, it just needs all the little stuff to make it fire, and put it to the ground.
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Why do you want to box the frame? the longhorn frame has a high modulus (resistant to bending) to begin with. Its a one ton frame.
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