48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

[99 to Life]

ah man, I don't miss this stage of the engine you are at. Brake cleaner really works wonders. I use the air hose alot too. I also used a rosebud on a propane tank, would heat the block up, seemed to help. Just gotta keep going back and forth with "cleaners/degreasers" then a brake cleaner and heat and air. Then back and forth. Wire brush, flathead screwdriver and a mix of other tools like your dremel will def help. Yours looks like alot of hours already went into it or it was just a pretty decent start. Mine had clumps of grease all over it. I shoulda got a better candidate.

[Advanced Design]

Thanks Lower, Mark and 99. Amazon will have Super Clean here by Friday.

Mark, that engine looks really good! Is that the one that went in the Dodge?

99, you are right, there are several hours invested in the engine cleaning so far. Wouldn't it be nice to start with a clean new piece?

Just a friendly reminder for all of us that brake clean can be hazardous when burned. This is worth a read...http://www.brewracingframes.com/safe...sgene-gas.html

[mongocanfly]

Wow Doug...I never knew that about brake cleaner..that's good info..love those valve covers...where did those come from?

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Wow Doug...I never knew that about brake cleaner..that's good info..love those valve covers...where did those come from?

Those are from Wegner Automotive in Wisconsin. http://www.wegnerautomotive.com

They don't have much content on their website so check out their FB page for pictures.

They build really nice components and accessory drives.

[hotrodelrod]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Those are from Wegner Automotive in Wisconsin. http://www.wegnerautomotive.com

They don't have much content on their website so check out their FB page for pictures.

They build really nice components and accessory drives.

Dang! That is pretty. How do they compare with the big brands (Billet Specialties) in quality and cost?

[99 to Life]

doug, for sure safety first. I'v read years ago, never clean any metal with brake clean and then weld it.

the wegner stuff looks nice, wish they had a better website. I can't believe the prices these companies charge for LS brackets. I need to get an AC compressor bracket. The
custom serp setup on that pic is really nice. Id like to do away with the factory alt bracket but, its just not in the budget.

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by hotrodelrod

Dang! That is pretty. How do they compare with the big brands (Billet Specialties) in quality and cost?

Rick, I am guessing pretty comparable. These guys have some custom options that are interesting.

Originally Posted by 99 to Life

doug, for sure safety first. I'v read years ago, never clean any metal with brake clean and then weld it.

the wegner stuff looks nice, wish they had a better website. I can't believe the prices these companies charge for LS brackets. I need to get an AC compressor bracket. The
custom serp setup on that pic is really nice. Id like to do away with the factory alt bracket but, its just not in the budget.

I wish they had a better website too. Prices are over the top everywhere...so I am still considering a number of accessory bracket options. Hoping I can make the truck set up look good and fit. I don't want to cut the inner fenders.

[youngrodder]

Yes Doug I wish you would figure out what accessory drive we need to run...I'm just about to mount my front fenders to see what trimming I need to do for the steering linkage.

Marc

[lower50's]

There is chlorinated and non-chlorinated brake clean. Use the non-chlorinated stuff if your going to do any welding. It's the only kind I use and make sure it is dry. The Wegner web sight is being re done

[reaper71]

Hey Guy's as far as the component brackets go you can go with the Allen Grove Components brackets. This is is the same setup I used on Blakes truck.

Pic #1. This is the high mount setup (truck 5.3) new tensioner and belt inc. $240.00

Pic #2. All mounted to the motor,fairly clean setup.

Pic #3. The dimensions of the kit Only 17" from center of crank pully.

Pic #4. This is the low mount for the (truck 5.3) $175.00

Pic #5. The dimensions are pretty tight to the block providing you have room between the block and your frame this might be a good option.

That being said I used the stock alt bracket from the 5.3 and cleaned it up real nice and painted it black to match the engine as well as the new A/C bracket and they disappear.
I just bought the high mount for John's 49 Dodge as well for his A/C install.
This a cheap alt. to having to spend a boat load on a serp. setup!

[reaper71]

Doug,to answer your question this is the motor that is going in the 38 chevy for troy. It does not have power steering so the pump was removed from the bracket and the bracket will be shaved to make it more streamlined.

Mark...

[reaper71]

Blakes all installed for reference

Mark...

[joedoh]

wow I missed all this and just got caught up! you sure are going the extra mile with your engine, that will really pay off in the looks.

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Wife arranged a very comfortable shop seating area for the winter, complete with salted peanuts in the shell and cold beverages....nice though it doesn't contribute to getting up and getting to work.

I wish I had the room for that seating area. work is overrated!

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

Yes Doug I wish you would figure out what accessory drive we need to run...I'm just about to mount my front fenders to see what trimming I need to do for the steering linkage.

Marc

Hey Marc...almost there. Some time ago in this ginormous build thread I placed pics with width measurements to the inner fenders. I recall the truck alternator and power steering will clear on left side. Right side with AC is more of a problem. Holley has a top mount with a peanut compressor that might clear. Not sure what a peanut compressor is nor if it will work for the Burb. Iceburgh tried the Alan Grove for AC down low and it wouldn't fit. He went with Visual Impact System front runner and they run about $1,900 ish. I had concerns since they don't use an idler. They don't have one in black and that is what I want.

Before you do your inner fenders, check out Oldman3 inners. Very nice fab.

Originally Posted by lower50's

There is chlorinated and non-chlorinated brake clean. Use the non-chlorinated stuff if your going to do any welding. It's the only kind I use and make sure it is dry. The Wegner web sight is being re done

Thanks Lower, good info on the brake clean. Yeah, their website has been under construction since I stumbled across them on a Kwhizz build on LS1Tech. They seem to be involved in a number of high end builds, including Ring Brothers.

Originally Posted by reaper71

Hey Guy's as far as the component brackets go you can go with the Allen Grove Components brackets. This is is the same setup I used on Blakes truck.

Pic #1. This is the high mount setup (truck 5.3) new tensioner and belt inc. $240.00

Pic #2. All mounted to the motor,fairly clean setup.

Pic #3. The dimensions of the kit Only 17" from center of crank pully.

Pic #4. This is the low mount for the (truck 5.3) $175.00

Pic #5. The dimensions are pretty tight to the block providing you have room between the block and your frame this might be a good option.

That being said I used the stock alt bracket from the 5.3 and cleaned it up real nice and painted it black to match the engine as well as the new A/C bracket and they disappear.
I just bought the high mount for John's 49 Dodge as well for his A/C install.
This a cheap alt. to having to spend a boat load on a serp. setup!

Awesome info Mark. Thank you!

Originally Posted by reaper71

Doug,to answer your question this is the motor that is going in the 38 chevy for troy. It does not have power steering so the pump was removed from the bracket and the bracket will be shaved to make it more streamlined.

Mark...

Beautiful! What did you paint it with?

Originally Posted by reaper71

Blakes all installed for reference

Mark...

Very nice! Where did you get the black alternator?

Originally Posted by joedoh

wow I missed all this and just got caught up! you sure are going the extra mile with your engine, that will really pay off in the looks.




I wish I had the room for that seating area. work is overrated!

Yeah thanks...I am going for the "Dang, that looks really good!" comments when the hood goes up look. If I can plan and execute it right. My imagination lacks and I bumble along.

Here is a sneak peek of a bit of what I have in mind....

[Advanced Design]

What would really help the under hood looks department would be if Kees could work his artistry on this big blank firewall. Don't know if you've seen his work...he is very talented. Anyway, it would be freaking awesome if he did.

Burb was just sitting in the shop tonight waiting on me to show up.

[youngrodder]

Doug

That intake is going to look great in your suburban. it will soak up some of the excess engine bay head space that the AD's have. It looks good seeing it on the ground. In need to barrow the (front) 20's off of my 48 to check fitment up front.

Keep at it. Don't loose sight of your 2nd place trophy.

Marc

[reaper71]

Doug...answer to ? #1 The paint I used was all rattle bomb first was shot with Epoxy primer and then it was topped off with High Heat Ceramic paint for the block. The Intake was Shop line Satin black I had here at the shop.
Answer ? #2. The alternator was a factory unit That I shot with the same paint as the Intake.

Mark...

[RockinKees]

Looks like you have a space problem in your Sub, Doug.
The few times I see one overhere they look big.
I reccon a LS motor is bigger then an old small block?

I like the intake setup, is this a High Rise manifold or stock?
Looks good tho!!

And I love to come over and stripe your firewall, I'll even do it for free for you!!
Unfortunatly I'm short on money to buy tickets...
But.....we are thinking about driving a camper through America next year, so who knows what will happen

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

Doug

That intake is going to look great in your suburban. it will soak up some of the excess engine bay head space that the AD's have. It looks good seeing it on the ground. In need to barrow the (front) 20's off of my 48 to check fitment up front.

Keep at it. Don't loose sight of your 2nd place trophy.

Marc

Thanks Marc, surely the 20's will fit your Burb. 2nd place....I need to get in the shop more to get there!

Originally Posted by reaper71

Doug...answer to ? #1 The paint I used was all rattle bomb first was shot with Epoxy primer and then it was topped off with High Heat Ceramic paint for the block. The Intake was Shop line Satin black I had here at the shop.
Answer ? #2. The alternator was a factory unit That I shot with the same paint as the Intake.

Mark...

Appreciate the info Mark. Please remember, when you and Jim run the paint and interior class I am first in line. I really need to learn some rudimentary painting skills.

Originally Posted by RockinKees

Looks like you have a space problem in your Sub, Doug.
The few times I see one overhere they look big.
I reccon a LS motor is bigger then an old small block?

I like the intake setup, is this a High Rise manifold or stock?
Looks good tho!!

And I love to come over and stripe your firewall, I'll even do it for free for you!!
Unfortunatly I'm short on money to buy tickets...
But.....we are thinking about driving a camper through America next year, so who knows what will happen

Hey Kees, the LS and SBC are pretty close size wise. The intake is a Holley high rise that I think I will use. From a performance standpoint for horse power or torque it helps absolutely not at all. Probably hurts a bit. And I just want to build one for the look I want...just having fun.

That would be so cool if you guys came through with a camper! We have a lot of space and you would be very welcome. Hope you can do it!

52MNresto sent me a PM suggesting this company might be a good one to check out for accessory drives. Thanks again 52...!
http://www.cvfracing.com/Black-Chevy...pentine-ac.htm

[mongocanfly]

Wow..that blacked out and dark red looks good on that engine...those valve covers and holley intake you posted would look killer on that paint combo.

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Wow..that blacked out and dark red looks good on that engine...those valve covers and holley intake you posted would look killer on that paint combo.

That is a good color combo.....thinking Chevy orange maybe. Coil relo package is on the shelf...

[JJorgensen52]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Hey Marc...almost there. Some time ago in this ginormous build thread I placed pics with width measurements to the inner fenders. I recall the truck alternator and power steering will clear on left side. Right side with AC is more of a problem. Holley has a top mount with a peanut compressor that might clear. Not sure what a peanut compressor is nor if it will work for the Burb. Iceburgh tried the Alan Grove for AC down low and it wouldn't fit. He went with Visual Impact System front runner and they run about $1,900 ish. I had concerns since they don't use an idler. They don't have one in black and that is what I want

Only because you cheated and set the engine back into the firewall - for me, I had to go to remote power steering reservoir for clearance. I'm running the small Sanden SD7 compressor on a narrow top mount
(http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_high_mount.html - K10291 , Vintage Air sells this as their own LS mount bracket), and I'm going to have to bump the inner fender out about an inch for clearance. With your engine set back you'll be better off, but I suspect you'll still be too close for comfort.

[Nut Case]

AD

I got a tip from a certified welder that worked in the oil field, welding steel casing for the drilling process. He said he uses acetone that he sprays from a spray bottle. He said no harmful fumes, and dries quickly, and cheaper than any cleaner you buy for 4-6 bucks.

I have used it for years and I'm still breathing, and mix any ATF with acetone (50/50) it makes a great solution for rusted fasteners. I've used both and they both work. Just my 2 cents worth.

That intake is "evil"

Keep on keepin on

NC

[reaper71]

Doug,anytime you ever plan on a road trip with the wife we would love to have you!
Come hangout and goof off in the shop.

Mark...

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by JJorgensen52

Only because you cheated and set the engine back into the firewall - for me, I had to go to remote power steering reservoir for clearance. I'm running the small Sanden SD7 compressor on a narrow top mount
(http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_high_mount.html - K10291 , Vintage Air sells this as their own LS mount bracket), and I'm going to have to bump the inner fender out about an inch for clearance. With your engine set back you'll be better off, but I suspect you'll still be too close for comfort.

Hey JJ, good to see you back! Yep, this is the ac mount I considered from VA. Somewhere I posted measurement pics with engine in relation to inner fenders. The right side would be close...and inch massage will look ok to me. I want to avoid sticking half the compressor through the inner fender.

Here are the dimensions from the one you linked to. Thanks again. Hope you can get back on Red Herring soon.