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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Inching closer...
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04-18-2017, 03:57 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Very nice progress on the engine! looks great
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04-18-2017, 04:05 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Your truck's new power plant is looking great!
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
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I'm just trying to button up as much stuff as possible before the swap. Most of the changes are primarily in the serpentine set up. I had a some trouble with the power steering pump, as in, which one to use. The 71 pump fits the bracket but has the wrong pulley shaft so the newer press on pulley won't fit. A square body pump has the correct pulley shaft but won't fit the bracket. The advantage with those pumps is that they use the older flare fittings for the pressure hose. In about 1980 GM switched to the bubble flare lines, which would require some kind of adapter or another option. Eventually I found the answer, or what I think is the answer for using the newer pump, specifically one for a 94 truck (the year I've been using for sourcing serp parts). I bought a new pressure line and I'll try to reflare the steering box end to a standard old style flare. Another small glitch I had was with the idler pulley. I bought one for an AC set up because I also bought the AC pump delete pulley, which is basically a pulley of the same size mounted on a piece that bolts into place of the AC pump. The brackets I had were of the none AC variety and it has a different idler. So the new idler I bought wouldn't fit because I was missing a little spacer that the idler rides on. I went back to the junkyard and got one, problem solved. As an option I could have just returned the idler pulley and not used it at all. It's really only needed to get a few more degrees of belt contact for the AC pump pulley. I decided to go with it in case I do add AC later. My ultimate goal is to swap an LT engine in here in a couple years but I know there is a chance that doesn't happen and I might want some AC before then. Lastly, I didn't have the metric bolts for the water pump pulley. GM used studs and I tried to remove some at the junkyard. No luck and really not worth the trouble. I bought some bolts at Napa. Anyway, this is how it sits now. I'll use my existing alternator and distributor. Both are fairly new. I'll install the new dipstick after the engine is in in case there is interference getting the headers bolted up with it in the way. I need to verify I'm at TDC on #1. I need the heater hose fittings from the old engine and to plug the holes in the engine/water pump/intake that I don't use. I'll need to swap over the gage sending units/fittings. I need to measure for the correct serp belt. The big thing is biting the bullet and ordering the new EFI. I might make that swap after I get the new engine running because I know it works and I can at least get the cam break in done and test drive it to make sure the engine doesn't destroy itself first. 
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04-24-2017, 12:16 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
looks nice!
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05-03-2017, 07:53 AM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
I'm getting ready to start the swap soon. I only have a few parts left to get. I got some garage space cleaned out for it. Took it for a drive last night, maybe the last one with it's old heart. That engine has been in there since 1985. It's been pulled out a few times. I spun a bearing once, swapped cams and resealed, pulled out for another reseal and paint. The little 283 has been good, I can't complain too much.
 This FI Tech system is basically the exact same set up as my old Holley ProJection with some upgrades. Like 4 high pressure injectors instead of 2 low pressure ones. Has a built in fan control. Has variable voltage for the fuel pump to slow it down at idle or low speed to keep the pump cooler, has a much smaller ECU that's mounted to the unit rather than the big old one under the dash and has some timing control with or without a CDI box. Should be an easy change. I'm waiting for the fuel pump delivery though. I don't know if the one I have will produce the pressure needed for this system.
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05-05-2017, 12:58 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Bought a new cobra hauler...
 I don't want to borrow a trailer from a friend for a trip to Mass. Too much wear and tear and if something goes wrong, it would be costly. I looked at renting a trailer, but they are not a flat deck, so I'd have to buy some plywood or something, figure out how to bolt it down, to use it for a non-rolling kit car. So I found a suitable trailer for a decent price. As for the truck, the fuel pump was on back order so I had to find another supplier. It's on the way now. Tomorrow I'm getting started on building a porch onto the house, but if I get time to work on the truck I'll start getting things ready to pull the 283. The crewcab is on the back burner until my 71 is back on the road.
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05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Man, I just read this whole thread over a couple of days. What a great project and great trips and side stories! I'll be starting on a similar long term truck this summer, might take years but that's ok.
I met a guy at a show once with a Cobra kit car, it wasn't painted but was clearly driven a lot. He said it was so much fun to drive that he didn't want to take it off the road long enough to paint it. I always think about that guy and his car when I see a Cobra kit car. Enjoy!!
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As an example, last week I cleaned out some garage space and got the truck parked in there so I can start working on pulling out the old engine. Haven't touched it since other than to set the new fuel pump on the bed rail. Instead, Saturday morning I got the holes drilled in my yard to set footing blocks in for my new porch. Not Porche, porch. The weather was good, I had the materials on hand and the wife didn't want open holes around the house waiting to gobble up her critters like baby Jessica in the well, so I spent the entire weekend playing carpenter.   54' across the front, 8' deep there and 19" deep on the left side. I ordered trusses last night. It's going to be awesome!
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05-09-2017, 01:15 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Dang, you're gonna double your square footage! I dig me some covered porch.
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05-26-2017, 02:57 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Last night I finally pulled the old engine. No issues other than how much grease there is to clean up...
  I think a lot of my oil loss was through the crankcase vent on the back of the engine. Something unique to those older small blocks. I'll have to use a newer style alternator to fit the new brackets. I was hoping I could use the old one since I know it's good and fairly new and the wiring is good. The newer alternator takes a different wire plug. Next I'll be doing clean up and replacing my leaky heater core and swapping the torque convertor. Then I'll be ready to drop the new engine in. Maybe this weekend yet, but who knows. I've got a porch to keep building on also.  Have a great weekend everyone!
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05-26-2017, 08:16 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Nice work getting the engine out. The porch is looking great! Have you got to the point of putting the trusses on it yet? I hope you have a great weekend too!
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05-27-2017, 08:42 AM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Nice work on all things. That is a very clean engine bay for being "greasy".
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Once I get my porch floor done, and I'm almost done now, I'm going to do said cleaning and get that heater core replaced. Maybe tomorrow I'll drop the new engine in.
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05-29-2017, 07:03 PM
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Didn't get as far as I had hoped today, but that's the breaks. I did get all the required engine bits swapped from the old engine to the new one. I primed the oil pump and installed the distributor. Oil pressure with the cordless drill cranking it over was about 18-20 psi.
 I installed the new torque converter...  I got started on degreasing it but didn't get far. Maybe I can get the kid to sit in there and do it this week while I'm out on the road.
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05-30-2017, 08:03 AM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Work, work, work. Hello boys, I miss you!
Get D in there!
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  We'll see if he helps me out this week. I tasked him with a few things he can do. The new engine is going in next weekend with or without his help. I need this back on the road and I'm getting excited that it's so close. It's been a few years since I fired a new engine I built and it's an incredible feeling. 
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05-30-2017, 12:43 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Never rely on the sons we're so worthless
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06-02-2017, 10:52 AM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
The boy did some cleaning and had the alternator tested and started to get it cleaned up and painted. So he's not completely worthless.
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06-04-2017, 11:51 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Friday night I got the new engine loaded into the back of the plow truck for the ride over to the other garage for the install.
 I spent a little more time doing some cleaning under the hood. BTW, don't bother with that cheap walmart degreaser. That crap wouldn't even clean off the light oil film on my firewall. I used simple green afterwards, much better. Then I got the engine up and in the truck.   That's about as far as I got that night. It was in and the pins on the back were in the corresponding holes of the bell housing. Saturday I worked on the porch. Today I worked on the truck. I managed to get the tranny mated to the engine and got it bolted into the truck. The torque converter is bolted to the flex plate. Oh yeah, Friday I found out my flexplate from the 283 wouldn't work on the newer style 350 crankshaft. Good thing I saved the flexplate from a couple other engines and had the correct one. I finished painting the alternator and mounted that and was finally able to see if I had the right fan belt. The headers are bolted on. I had to modify the throttle rod. The FI Tech unit places the throttle further forward. The original rod I had was out to it's maximum length and about 1-1/2" too short. I cut it and welded in a piece of bolt that was the same diameter. The new EFI is bolted down, the O2 sensor was swapped for the new one. The shifter is reconnected, starter is in and I probably did a few other bits. This is how it sits tonight.  I thought I might get to fire it today, but I ran out of steam. What's left is power steering lines, fuel pump, wire the EFI and new pump, install the cap and plug wires. I think that's about it. Maybe tomorrow.
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
That all looks very nice! What did you use to paint the intake?
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
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Today I got most of the wiring figured out, including the alternator. . The boy said he can get me an adapter for the power steering hose from work tomorrow. Other than that I just need to swap the fuel pump and install the cap and plug wires. So close.
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06-06-2017, 07:59 AM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Onward! Cant wait for the fire up video!
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06-06-2017, 12:49 PM
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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Very quick progress! Love it, new engine looks very tidy in there can't wait for the startup!
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