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Old 09-20-2012, 09:07 PM   #1
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

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Cap with what? Welded caps? I do have a spool for welding Al. Just need to pick up a 2nd tank...
You don't need to weld it. Just make sure the tube is full and make sure you have something on there to keep the sand from getting out.

I like how you mark each terminal. Good idea.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:03 AM   #2
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Cap with what? Welded caps? I do have a spool for welding Al. Just need to pick up a 2nd tank...
We used bungs, tape them on as well. It was important that there was no air so you need to tap away at it as you fill with sand to condense the sand.
I still have some bits that were bent this way, I will take some pic's and post them up tomorrow.

Keep up the good work. I would love to get another SV and stick a 3.8l V6 Ecotec engine in it.

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Old 09-21-2012, 03:38 AM   #3
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We used bungs, tape them on as well. It was important that there was no air so you need to tap away at it as you fill with sand to condense the sand.
I still have some bits that were bent this way, I will take some pic's and post them up tomorrow.

Keep up the good work. I would love to get another SV and stick a 3.8l V6 Ecotec engine in it.

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I looked at the V6 options long and hard. There are some great options out there. Thanks for the tips!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #4
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Cap with what? Welded caps? I do have a spool for welding Al. Just need to pick up a 2nd tank...
duct tape works fine
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:11 PM   #5
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Duct tape ALWAYS works!
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:38 PM   #6
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The ball valve may work, but I think it will probably feel like full on at about 1/3 open. Depends on the amount of total flow you have. Part way open on that valve may be enough to allow all the flow the system puts out. A small orifice (washer) in the valve inlet might help control it better. Another option is a smaller ball valve. You'll just have to try it out and see what you get for results.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:42 PM   #7
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Everything looks awesome, as usual.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:08 AM   #8
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Cool idea on the tube beader. These ones from earls seem like a simple idea that would work but you have to buy one for every size tube. If its just one size you need then ok, but they would add up fast.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/P...rs-Individual/
That's cheating (they look nice tho)
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Now that is totally cool! Making your own tool like that.

I'm not sure where I heard this, or what material it's used on, but the myth has it that if use fill the tube with sand it won't collapse.
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Yeah, I've read that too. Ice as well. The sticks I have coming have just a slightly thicker wall so hopefully I'll get it on the first one. If not I'm using frozen quick-sand on the 2nd

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The ball valve may work, but I think it will probably feel like full on at about 1/3 open. Depends on the amount of total flow you have. Part way open on that valve may be enough to allow all the flow the system puts out. A small orifice (washer) in the valve inlet might help control it better. Another option is a smaller ball valve. You'll just have to try it out and see what you get for results.
You may be right, but if I can control the temp at all I'll be happy. With no way to completely shut off the vent I don't want heated wind flowing through there in the summer.

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Everything looks awesome, as usual.
Thanks brotha!
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:54 PM   #9
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

What else have I been up to..?

I decided not to run the capillary oil pressure gauge (oil line running into the car ). So in order to run an electric oil pressure gauge I've started this process. There's probably a Smiths gauge out there that would bolt right in, but what fun would that be?

Bought a Stewart Warner 0-100PSI gauge off eBay.


It has the correct 90* sweep to use my gauge face-plate


Researched the proper sending unit specs for the gauge (240-33ohms for 0-100PSI) and found this VDO unit (don't mind the exhaust wrap. It's for a future installment).


S2000's don't have an oil pressure gauge, just and ID10T light. So a T-fitting allows me to run both:


Integration of the SW gauge into the Sunbeam dash:

Upper right location in the pic is the existing oil gauge (had already attempted to use a water temp gauge with oil pressure face-plate but could not find a sender with the correct range or span)


SW gauge size reference:




Guts pulled and already clearanced as needed:


Where it's going:


Face-plate also required a little mod:


Zero-Stop post added:






Work in progress...


Tapping for stand-offs:


...and that's as far as I have pics of. I'm a little further along and it looks like it will work out very nicely.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:23 PM   #10
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Oil Pressure gauge complete. Wired it up to the sender to set zero before buttoning it up:




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Old 09-20-2012, 07:32 PM   #12
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ECU Wiring:


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Old 09-20-2012, 07:42 PM   #13
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Awesome work frizzle!
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #14
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Cool, I'll try the sand if I kink another one.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:54 AM   #15
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

You're a wiring master..*bows
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:47 PM   #16
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This build never disappoints! Your level of ingenuity is astonishingly awesome!

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Old 09-24-2012, 01:44 PM   #17
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Just getting caught up on the build for this past week. I love how you stabbed some new guts into the old cluster for the oil pressure gauge. And the OCD side of me likes that you labelled all the wiring for the ECU; now I can sleep well at night.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #18
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You're a wiring master..*bows
Thanks. You should see some of the stuff I do at work! But I can't show it... :/
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duct tape works fine
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Sorry Frizzel, I could not find what I thought I had. So no pic.
No problem. I'm headed out there now. We'll see how it goes!
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Just getting caught up on the build for this past week. I love how you stabbed some new guts into the old cluster for the oil pressure gauge. And the OCD side of me likes that you labelled all the wiring for the ECU; now I can sleep well at night.
I know when I come back to it a week/month/year later the labels will be appreciated!
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:06 PM   #19
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Thanks. You should see some of the stuff I do at work! But I can't show it... :/
I have and continue to be amazed...
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Sand+Thicker-Walls+Annealed-all-at-once+Taking-my-time=


Pics of the process to come...

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #21
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As usual, very nice!!!
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:47 PM   #22
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #23
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I annealed the whole stick in one go this time. Went until the soap turned meduim-to-dark brown, not black like the last one:


Filled with used 60/80 garnet from bly blasting cabinet:


Tapped it on the floor and on the side with a rubber coated hammer handle to settle/pack it in. This was the 2nd iteration of that. First time it went down to maybe 3/8" from heaping (was capped on top too).


Into the bender. Plenty of lithium grease on the tube and followers! I went VERY slowly with it this time, which is easy to do with the hydraulic conversion. Just let it pump about a piston cycle/second.


Took about 15min to go 90* You can see the rubber caps I used. I have a bin of assorted sizes. I keep them whenever we get new parts/equipment at work.



Two bends, no kinks! The outer radius is even better (no flatness) than the previous "good" bend.








Next I mod'ed the bead tool a little more to prevent indentations on the OD:


Worked like a champ:






...and the end result (already shown)


Back to the shop!
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:16 AM   #24
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would be a nice way to make a huge diameter exaust system on turbocars as whell usually the turn right after the turbine needs to be tight due to the space behind it
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Super write up and work on the tubing! Always learning here.
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