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jbclassix · 03-07-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

They are called zero rate add-a-leaf. they can recenter the axle or not. they are called add a leaves because they become a part of the springpack when you bolt them on with the center pin but do nothing to change the springrate like a normal add-a-leaf. the 2 hole three hole is the choices for moving the axle forward or back
Ryan

Ok. Hence the countersunk holes. His just have multiple positions, right?
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**Dieselwrencher** · 03-07-2013, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbclassix

Ok. Hence the countersunk holes. His just have multiple positions, right?
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It allows you to move the axle 1" or 1.5". That's why there are 3 holes. You'll end up using 2 holes when you're done. I'm not too keen on the grade 5 bolts they want to use as the new center pin.

jbclassix · 03-08-2013, 01:34 AM

Don't cheap out and use the low grade hardware. Check out this problem we ran into at work. Link-a-ma-jig

Mattman2010 · 03-08-2013, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

It allows you to move the axle 1" or 1.5". That's why there are 3 holes. You'll end up using 2 holes when you're done. I'm not too keen on the grade 5 bolts they want to use as the new center pin.

Use grade 2, it will make things far more interesting when you put the foot to the floor!

mknittle · 03-08-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Yes I have. They are still trying to get the braking power side of it to work better. They sound cool, but I guess don't brake well yet.

Could be not enough manifold pressure. that was one of the problems the cat 3406 had. Swapping a holset turbo helped.

mknittle · 03-08-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by watahyahknow

i think a retarder / magnetbrake would work better ,

i have seen motorbrake stuff but i think it works by smothering the intake air while cutting the injectors the vacuum makes the engine resist reving when running downhill in gear , prolly whont work with turbo's as they get hurt when you cut the air intoo them ... sucks the oil right trough the seals

thosr things are too heavy. all class 8 truck engines can be fitted hith engine brakes and do not work on vacuum thy work on compression and the more manifold pressure the better the braking.We are getting around 30 PSI on a Cummins big cam 2 on the jake.

mknittle · 03-08-2013, 05:34 PM

Ryan, This is off topic but thought you might like to see this. it is still in the mock up stage on the grill shell. the engine needs to be moved back. and and and....

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-08-2013, 09:19 PM

And and and, sell it to me!

Nice progress on the ol girl!

mknittle · 03-08-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

And and and, sell it to me!

Nice progress on the ol girl!

yeah, he is moving right along! the problem is the farther he gets the more my 52 gets buryed

**truckdude239** · 03-11-2013, 11:20 AM

man i just took 4 hours to read this thing and your not done with it!!

1985-GMC · 03-11-2013, 03:10 PM

I think its taken him more than 4 hours to get this far, so...
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**Dieselwrencher** · 03-11-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by truckdude239

man i just took 4 hours to read this thing and your not done with it!!

Well sorry man.

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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC

I think its taken him more than 4 hours to get this far, so...
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Uh, yeah, you're totally right.

It'd get done if I quit improving on it every time I work on it.

Mattman2010 · 03-11-2013, 08:56 PM

I would use that word "improving" very loosely if I where you

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-11-2013, 08:59 PM

I got some time to work on it this weekend. I got the zero rates installed, and IDK if I'm exactly am happy with it. Before I started the wheel base was 132". After it's 133.5". So it definitely moved. I just don't think it's enough in the front yet. But I only moved it 1/2". I still have the 1 1/2" hole to try. I also stripped the other hole in my diff housing on the RH leaf spring retaining plate. So I'll have to heli-coil them. I had the inserts but no tap. I didn't realize the taps for a 1/2" heli-coil was an odd size. Go figure. I got the kit today though, so I'm good there. Any how, here's some progress pics.

I cleaned the bed out, removed the rear bumper, and slid the bed back. The bed was way too close to the cab for my taste.

Next I removed the bed so I can start on the GN hitch, frame boxing, and fuel tank swap. (Thanks for the idea Matty)

Almost had a casualty.............

No bed.

Tail pipe won't work when my hitch is finished. I'm planning on running straight pipe now.

Starting on the GN hitch. I'll have a B&W inbetween the 4x4 and 2x4 cross members.

Shoot, just this weekend and this morning, I bet I spent 10hrs working on this thing.

jbclassix · 03-11-2013, 10:09 PM

Exhaust pipe or Ia metro subway!

I agree, I think the axle needs to move forward still.

brothers69c-10 · 03-11-2013, 10:10 PM

Looking good buddy. Hope to see this one at goodguys this year.

ryanroo · 03-11-2013, 10:25 PM

Looking good! you know i think you are spinning you wheels adjusting that rear axle placement. you know it wont matter when you step up to the plate and link/bag that bad dog...

that gooseneck plan looks good, wish ida thought of that

Ryan

Mattman2010 · 03-11-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Next I removed the bed so I can start on the GN hitch, frame boxing, and fuel tank swap. (Thanks for the idea Matty)

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

that gooseneck plan looks good, wish ida thought of that

Ryan

Ryanroo was the one with the idea. I stole the idea from him for my gooseneck hitch. Hell if you read his thread he said he wished he would have spaced his so the b&w would set right on top

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-12-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattman2010

Ryanroo was the one with the idea. I stole the idea from him for my gooseneck hitch. Hell if you read his thread he said he wished he would have spaced his so the b&w would set right on top

I was talking about the burb tank sonny boy. I already had the B&W to do this with.

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-12-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

Looking good! you know i think you are spinning you wheels adjusting that rear axle placement. you know it wont matter when you step up to the plate and link/bag that bad dog...

that gooseneck plan looks good, wish ida thought of that

Ryan

Yeah, you know it.

Bye Bye leaves......................

mcbassin · 03-12-2013, 04:09 PM

very nice progress Ryan.

Mattman2010 · 03-12-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

I was talking about the burb tank sonny boy. I already had the B&W to do this with.

Makes sense now....
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ryanroo · 03-12-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Yeah, you know it.

Bye Bye leaves......................

i'm thinkin so.

ryanroo · 03-12-2013, 11:21 PM

Mr. Wrencher has a pile of steel hiding in CO...

jbclassix · 03-13-2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

Mr. Wrencher has a pile of steel hiding in CO...

No backing out now!!

03-08-2013, 01:34 AM	#1428
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Don't cheap out and use the low grade hardware. Check out this problem we ran into at work. Link-a-ma-jig __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

03-08-2013, 05:34 PM	#1432
mknittle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Auburn ca. Posts: 2,886	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Ryan, This is off topic but thought you might like to see this. it is still in the mock up stage on the grill shell. the engine needs to be moved back. and and and.... Attached Images __________________ Mark My GMC build. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536602

03-08-2013, 09:19 PM	#1433
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion And and and, sell it to me! Nice progress on the ol girl! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

03-11-2013, 11:20 AM	#1435
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03-11-2013, 03:10 PM	#1436
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03-11-2013, 08:56 PM	#1438
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03-11-2013, 08:59 PM	#1439
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I got some time to work on it this weekend. I got the zero rates installed, and IDK if I'm exactly am happy with it. Before I started the wheel base was 132". After it's 133.5". So it definitely moved. I just don't think it's enough in the front yet. But I only moved it 1/2". I still have the 1 1/2" hole to try. I also stripped the other hole in my diff housing on the RH leaf spring retaining plate. So I'll have to heli-coil them. I had the inserts but no tap. I didn't realize the taps for a 1/2" heli-coil was an odd size. Go figure. I got the kit today though, so I'm good there. Any how, here's some progress pics. I cleaned the bed out, removed the rear bumper, and slid the bed back. The bed was way too close to the cab for my taste. Next I removed the bed so I can start on the GN hitch, frame boxing, and fuel tank swap. (Thanks for the idea Matty) Almost had a casualty............. No bed. Tail pipe won't work when my hitch is finished. I'm planning on running straight pipe now. Starting on the GN hitch. I'll have a B&W inbetween the 4x4 and 2x4 cross members. Shoot, just this weekend and this morning, I bet I spent 10hrs working on this thing. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

03-11-2013, 10:09 PM	#1440
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Exhaust pipe or Ia metro subway! I agree, I think the axle needs to move forward still. __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

03-11-2013, 10:10 PM	#1441
brothers69c-10 Suburban Hick Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Altoona, IA Posts: 810	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Looking good buddy. Hope to see this one at goodguys this year. __________________ Mathew 1947 Chevy 3600 1951 GMC 100 1969 Chevy C-10 396/500hp TH400 lowered 4" 1968 Imapla Custom 396/325hp TH400 "Grandmas Car" 1976 Crew Cab 4x4 diesel http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=488505 1978 Chevy K-10 454 1983 S10 4x4 "Bumblb" (Grandpa's truck) 1993 Chevy S10 V8 conversion 1990 Ford Probe Gt 1992 Dodge W-150 "Old Man's Truck" 1992 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 1992 Mercury Grand Marquis-Mercruiser 2000 Ford F150 (Currently my mother drives this) 1946 Farmall H with Stan Hoist loader 1965 John Deere 110 1961 Wheel Horse " Rat Tractor"

03-11-2013, 10:25 PM	#1442
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Looking good! you know i think you are spinning you wheels adjusting that rear axle placement. you know it wont matter when you step up to the plate and link/bag that bad dog... that gooseneck plan looks good, wish ida thought of that Ryan __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

03-12-2013, 04:09 PM	#1446
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03-12-2013, 11:21 PM	#1449
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