Project Vitamin C-10

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

Hey...at least it's a Super Duty....

Since I work at f*rd I better drive one.

Originally Posted by MacAttack

Some people just don't have any vision.

Your right. I had a vision of cleaning up around here.

Originally Posted by 1964C10

Not throwing a cab roof are you? lol

No, but have a complete cab with a good roof for $150

Originally Posted by Strodder

Damn I miss my plasma cutter. Is it yours Allan?

Yes, and I love that thing.

Originally Posted by JRBECK64

How many projects you have going??? My Son is about to bust, his truck is so close to being done but there are a few little details keeping us from finishing it now. How do you like your plasma cutter? I have been thinking about asking for one for Christmas. Looking forward to seeing more pictures of the trucks.

JRBECK64

Got the 65 & 55 and a long honey do list. Ya'll are doing a great job on your sons truck. If you do alot of metal work the plasma is awesome.

Originally Posted by derider

I hate flaring took a few tries for me as well when I added the disk brakes to my 66. Thanksfully the guy at the parts house gave me an extra 2' section to practice on!

I haven't tried SS yet. Did you run steel lines?

[Strodder]

My plasma cutter took a sh*t a couple of years ago. It needs a circuit board that cost about $500. Not worth fixing it even though it's a $3,200, 20 year old one from Snap-on. The newer ones are now much smaller, and I can get one for about $800. If I need one that bad I could use borrow my sons. When I had my business I used it all the time.

[1964C10]

Your double flares look good Alan after only 3 tries! It does help to put just a drop of oil on the point where the anvil goes into the tube, I know they you aren't supposed to put stuff in the line but just a little lubrication goes a long way towards reducing friction and getting the material to not "prefer" one side over the other, especially with SS it can have some soft and hard spots.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 1964C10

Your double flares look good Alan after only 3 tries! It does help to put just a drop of oil on the point where the anvil goes into the tube, I know they you aren't supposed to put stuff in the line but just a little lubrication goes a long way towards reducing friction and getting the material to not "prefer" one side over the other, especially with SS it can have some soft and hard spots.

Thanks again. I went and tried it with oil, what a difference. It looks store bought.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Thanks again. I went and tried it with oil, what a difference. It looks store bought.

I have to try that next time. Great tip 1964C10.

[1964C10]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Thanks again. I went and tried it with oil, what a difference. It looks store bought.

Anytime! Just giving a little back to all the help I have received from you guys!!

Alan, if you can wait till Monday I will measure the holes in my bed sides as well but I am leaving for my reserve weekend so I won't be home till Monday.

[70 Suburban]

i stick the end out about the hight of two pennies

[Strodder]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder View Post
Looks good Allan
I know your not saying that about the flare I did. LOL


I was. Looked better than the ones I did.

[MacAttack]

Don't let them make fun of your expertise with the scanning electron microscope photographs, Alan. They're just jealous. I've seen some articles in various car magazines on this art of tubing and it is a skill I'd like to obtain one day. Looks like you're well on your way.

Mac.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 198plus

Good job Alan........Practice makes perfect !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by 1964C10

Your double flares look good Alan after only 3 tries! It does help to put just a drop of oil on the point where the anvil goes into the tube, I know they you aren't supposed to put stuff in the line but just a little lubrication goes a long way towards reducing friction and getting the material to not "prefer" one side over the other, especially with SS it can have some soft and hard spots.

I'll try the oil the next time. My flare tool says it's for copper,aluminum, and steel. I guess it won't do SS. I think I remember that SS requires a different flare tool. Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

i stick the end out about the hight of two pennies

The tool kit instructions shows to be a tad bit more than that. I've tried it there and it didn't work right. Maybe the oil will help it. Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by Strodder

Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder View Post
Looks good Allan
I know your not saying that about the flare I did. LOL


I was. Looked better than the ones I did.

Originally Posted by MacAttack

Don't let them make fun of your expertise with the scanning electron microscope photographs, Alan. They're just jealous. I've seen some articles in various car magazines on this art of tubing and it is a skill I'd like to obtain one day. Looks like you're well on your way.

Mac. :mm

Thanks, I definately don't feel comfortable yet making double flares yet, but it will come.

Laid the inner bedside patches on the bedside to see what they look like. I love Mar-K products. Very good quality.





The only thing I noticed was there is one square hole missing on the short patch in the middle and 2 missing on the long patch. The one in the corner of the long one might need to be there. I don't know if it's the way they make all of them or did this set get missed. What do ya'll think?

[tommys66]

I'll try the oil the next time. My flare tool says it's for copper,aluminum, and steel. I guess it won't do SS. I think I remember that SS requires a different flare tool. Thanks for the advice.


Yes alan, you are correct. the SS requires a 33deg flare while all others are a 45deg flare. there are separate flare tools for ss and standard. Hope this helps.

[1964C10]

I would imagine it just got missed because that is where it bolts to the cross-sills giving the side the needed support. Thanks for the good pictures, I know where I am getting my patch panels from!

Your bedsides look flawless!! awesome job

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 1964C10

I would imagine it just got missed because that is where it bolts to the cross-sills giving the side the needed support. Thanks for the good pictures, I know where I am getting my patch panels from!

Your bedsides look flawless!! awesome job

I just emailed Mar-K I'll let ya'll know what they say. My bedsides look good in pics, still got a long way to go. Thanks anyways.

When ya'll don't have anything else to read check This out.

[ruffrida2005]

Looks good Alan

[4dranch]

Thanks for the pictures Alan.
Looks like it fits perfect.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

Looks good Alan

Originally Posted by 4dranch

Thanks for the pictures Alan.
Looks like it fits perfect.

Thanks guys!!

Here is the reply from Mar-K. if any of you have these measurements he is talking about forward them to me. That way I can do a comparision between several trucks and not just one. I wouldn't want to send bad info to him. Thanks

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Hello Alan. I read your e-mail you sent to Info @ Mar-K. I also looked at your photos you sent. First I will try to answer your questions and offer some advice and then I may ask some questions of my own.



I have looked at several trucks and all of them did not have the square hole at the front near the front bed panel. Of all these trucks I have seen, the hole in the front panel lower flange did not line up the bedside lower flange. This is the reason I left that hole out of the replacement panel. I left the third hole on the front panel out simply because of lack of information available to me at the time of development of the panel. It is not a cross sill location and also does not have a corresponding hole to line up with on the bed strips. I am interested in knowing where to place this hole if you would be willing to measure it’s location and pass this information on to me. The same situation applies to the rear replacement panel with the hole missing. If you wish, you can drill a round hole in these panels and I will send you a ribbed neck carriage bolt to press into the round holes. As far as the two round holes in your photo, any idea what they are for? Are they on every short box side? Let me know if you want me to send the hardware.

Design Engineer

Mar-K Quality Parts

[daverod]

Seems like a nice man.

[bluesfella]

Alan, I just finished reading your ENTIRE build thread! My daughter was born 10 days ago, and she likes to be awake between 3am and 5am, so I've been holding her with a laptop next to me, reading this thread. (She's in my lap right now.) Thanks for providing such good info and taking pics! I've learned a lot.

But now I'll have to find something else to read. Unless you can provide two hours worth of updates every day? Is that enough motivation for you?

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by bluesfella

Alan, I just finished reading your ENTIRE build thread! My daughter was born 10 days ago, and she likes to be awake between 3am and 5am, so I've been holding her with a laptop next to me, reading this thread. (She's in my lap right now.) Thanks for providing such good info and taking pics! I've learned a lot.

But now I'll have to find something else to read. Unless you can provide two hours worth of updates every day? Is that enough motivation for you?

That's gonna be hard to keep you entertained 2 hrs everynight. Not much going on here. Just tinkering a little. Thanks for the motivation. I need to get something going again.

Here are the deminsions on my bedside. I'm curious if everyone has these holes I marked. I'm going to forward this to Mar-K

[daverod]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

That's gonna be hard to keep you entertained 2 hrs everynight. Not much going on here. Just tinkering a little. Thanks for the motivation. I need to get something going again.

Here are the deminsions on my bedside. I'm curious if everyone has these holes I marked. I'm going to forward this to Mar-K

I'll bet if we gave you the chance you could could fix the economy.

[jgh64pkup]

hmm ribbes caraige bolts
i wonder if they work any better

[ruffrida2005]

Looks real good Alan, got to keep the supplier straight.

[1964C10]

I have used them before in other wood applications and they work really well but they are unforgiving in over tightening. The ribbed portion will strip without much warning that you are going too far. Just make sure you drill the hole the correct diameter and if there is a little too much room I have put waterproof wood glue on the ribs so that it fills in the cracks of the wood nicely for better grip. Of course that was in a place were I knew I would never need to take them lose again. Can't wait to see your pictures!

[MacAttack]

Originally Posted by 1964C10

I have used them before in other wood applications and they work really well but they are unforgiving in over tightening.

Good info on the installation precautions.

Alan - I've never seen fasteners like those before - they look 1st class.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by daverod

I'll bet if we gave you the chance you could could fix the economy.

Maybe so. But I can't get my truck done.

Originally Posted by jgh64pkup

hmm ribbes caraige bolts
i wonder if they work any better

We will see.......

Originally Posted by 1964C10

I have used them before in other wood applications and they work really well but they are unforgiving in over tightening. The ribbed portion will strip without much warning that you are going too far. Just make sure you drill the hole the correct diameter and if there is a little too much room I have put waterproof wood glue on the ribs so that it fills in the cracks of the wood nicely for better grip. Of course that was in a place were I knew I would never need to take them lose again. Can't wait to see your pictures!

Good info!!

Originally Posted by MacAttack

Good info on the installation precautions.

Alan - I've never seen fasteners like those before - they look 1st class.

They do look cool.

Not much to report, but do have a question. Is it possible to rename a thread. I didn't do a search, but did look on the user CP. I'll go do a search now. I want to rename it to "Project Vitamin C-10".