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**special-K** · 01-16-2017, 10:25 AM

Very interesting. What year did this happen?

C10 - C90 Bill · 01-16-2017, 12:34 PM

Tim,

I believe it was in the mid 80's (somewhere around '85 or '86).

streetrodchev · 01-16-2017, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill

That's pretty good, a John Deere Diesel Engine in a GM Truck.

I've got a GM Diesel Engine in my John Deere Tractor, lol.

(Optional 2-53 Detroit)

Must be a JD 435?

C10 - C90 Bill · 01-16-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by streetrodchev

Must be a JD 435?

Right.

A '59 JD 435.

**Bob B.** · 01-16-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 95stepside

Attachment 1611442

You guys want to hear a story?

C10 - C90 Bill · 01-16-2017, 09:15 PM

Bob,

I saw some of your comments here and there while I was researching it yesterday, but yes, let us know more on it.

Bill

**Bob B.** · 01-17-2017, 12:03 AM

Not sure of the date of this article, I think it was around 1985:

http://magazines.marinelink.com/Maga...broader-201841

Deere was involved with the design of Detroit Diesel 60 series engines, and the plan was that Detroit would market mid-range Deere diesels for highway applications. The GMT-530 medium duty truck program (1990-2002 TopKick Kodiak) was intended to use Deere diesels, but when the Detroit/Deere joint venture fell through and GM sold Detroit to Penske, the 530 truck was designed to use the then-new Caterpillar 3116. It's an interesting 'what-might-have-been' scenario.

A very limited number of 1986/87 GMC C-6500's were built with the 5.9L Deere diesel in anticipation of the upcoming 1990 medium trucks. I was told they were made available to GMC commercial truck dealers as sort of an on-the-job test program. I have seen one!

**special-K** · 01-17-2017, 07:01 AM

Very interesting. Back then I used to say my thing was Chevy, JD, HD, and GMC. If that had flown it would have fit right in.

I have another brochure coming, Canadian '70 MD/HD Trucks

**davischevy** · 01-17-2017, 10:16 PM

I didn't know the history of why the Caterpillar 3116 in GM trucks, but it turned out to be one of the most expensive nightmares I have ever had.

I had some Cat 3116's, and that is undoubtedly the worst piece of mechanical engineering I have had the pleasure to maintain.

**Bob B.** · 01-17-2017, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by davischevy

I didn't know the history of why the Caterpillar 3116 in GM trucks, but it turned out to be one of the most expensive nightmares I have ever had.

I had some Cat 3116's, and that is undoubtedly the worst piece of mechanical engineering I have had the pleasure to maintain.

I didn't do too bad with them. Also ran a lot of the later 3126/C7 versions. Parts are expensive though.

**davischevy** · 01-17-2017, 11:42 PM

We still have some 3126's and haven't had any trouble with them.

KQQL IT · 01-19-2017, 02:05 PM

Facebook gleaning

NoStopN · 01-19-2017, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KQQL IT

Facebook gleaning

I like that first one.

KQQL IT · 01-20-2017, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoStopN

I like that first one.

The car hauler is mine, then the red and white sleeper truck.

Good stuff

83GMCK2500 · 01-20-2017, 11:21 AM

The wrecker sitting in the tall and uncut warms my heart pretty good. I also like the (olive?) green Jimmy-C tractor.

KQQL IT · 01-20-2017, 04:54 PM

Whoopsie doo

C10 - C90 Bill · 01-20-2017, 07:39 PM

Oh, no.

Wonder where this happened.

Looks like it was about 1968.

**special-K** · 01-20-2017, 08:56 PM

Talk about a train wreck, that really is one. And what a precious cargo to be hauling

KQQL IT · 01-20-2017, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill

Oh, no.

Wonder where this happened.

Looks like it was about 1968.

The Lemans taillight says 1970 to me.

NoStopN · 01-21-2017, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KQQL IT

The car hauler is mine, then the red and white sleeper truck.

Good stuff

I'm guessing the people on Facebook aren't selling them?

KQQL IT · 01-21-2017, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NoStopN

I'm guessing the people on Facebook aren't selling them?

I don't ask, no place to park one.
But some are old pics some are lifted pics I see some of pacarhauler's pic's on there.
Just save and share them with this page.

**special-K** · 01-30-2017, 07:40 AM

Another oldie

**special-K** · 01-31-2017, 09:39 PM

xxx

KQQL IT · 02-02-2017, 09:04 AM

Rick Sousa photo

**special-K** · 02-02-2017, 09:26 AM

I love that truck...409! The owner is a great guy to work for, coming from his drivers. The Marmon in the background is his and the driver hired my buddy to touch up some pinstripe and letter something like his name or "Class of...". When the guy went to hand Chuck his money Chuck told him his boss already paid. I know it's his truck anyway, but still was a cool gesture I witnessed

Another picture and some of his other stuff:

01-16-2017, 10:25 AM	#1451
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis Very interesting. What year did this happen? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-16-2017, 12:34 PM	#1452
C10 - C90 Bill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moneta, VA USA Posts: 3,087	Re: GM Semis Tim, I believe it was in the mid 80's (somewhere around '85 or '86). __________________ '60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan GMC 9500 Fan Detroit Diesel Fan

01-16-2017, 09:15 PM	#1456
C10 - C90 Bill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moneta, VA USA Posts: 3,087	Re: GM Semis Bob, I saw some of your comments here and there while I was researching it yesterday, but yes, let us know more on it. Bill __________________ '60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan GMC 9500 Fan Detroit Diesel Fan

01-17-2017, 12:03 AM	#1457
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,363	Re: GM Semis Not sure of the date of this article, I think it was around 1985: http://magazines.marinelink.com/Maga...broader-201841 Deere was involved with the design of Detroit Diesel 60 series engines, and the plan was that Detroit would market mid-range Deere diesels for highway applications. The GMT-530 medium duty truck program (1990-2002 TopKick Kodiak) was intended to use Deere diesels, but when the Detroit/Deere joint venture fell through and GM sold Detroit to Penske, the 530 truck was designed to use the then-new Caterpillar 3116. It's an interesting 'what-might-have-been' scenario. A very limited number of 1986/87 GMC C-6500's were built with the 5.9L Deere diesel in anticipation of the upcoming 1990 medium trucks. I was told they were made available to GMC commercial truck dealers as sort of an on-the-job test program. I have seen one! __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90. Last edited by Bob B.; 01-17-2017 at 01:02 AM.

01-17-2017, 07:01 AM	#1458
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis Very interesting. Back then I used to say my thing was Chevy, JD, HD, and GMC. If that had flown it would have fit right in. I have another brochure coming, Canadian '70 MD/HD Trucks __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 01-18-2017 at 08:49 PM.

01-17-2017, 10:16 PM	#1459
davischevy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Harrison, Arkansas Posts: 9,860	Re: GM Semis I didn't know the history of why the Caterpillar 3116 in GM trucks, but it turned out to be one of the most expensive nightmares I have ever had. I had some Cat 3116's, and that is undoubtedly the worst piece of mechanical engineering I have had the pleasure to maintain. __________________ other Larry Build thread, Arkansas K10 https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...=755797&page=5 The ability to speak several languages is an asset, but the ability to keep your mouth shut in any language is priceless.

01-17-2017, 11:42 PM	#1461
davischevy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Harrison, Arkansas Posts: 9,860	Re: GM Semis We still have some 3126's and haven't had any trouble with them. __________________ other Larry Build thread, Arkansas K10 https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...=755797&page=5 The ability to speak several languages is an asset, but the ability to keep your mouth shut in any language is priceless.

01-19-2017, 02:05 PM	#1462
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,253	Re: GM Semis Facebook gleaning Attached Images __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

01-20-2017, 11:21 AM	#1465
83GMCK2500 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR from WA State Posts: 1,515	Re: GM Semis The wrecker sitting in the tall and uncut warms my heart pretty good. I also like the (olive?) green Jimmy-C tractor. __________________ Devin 1983 GMC High Sierra 2500, 4x4, RC/LB, 400 S.B., SM-465, NP-208, Corporate 10 bolt & 9.5" 14 bolt 1996 GMC Sierra SLE 3500 DRW, 4x4, EC/LB, Vortec 454, NV-4500, BW-4401, AAM 925 & AAM 1050 1997 GMC Sierra SLT 1500 4x4, Z71/F44, EC/SB, Vortec 350 My Introduction with my '83s History New Daily, the '96

01-20-2017, 04:54 PM	#1466
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,253	Re: GM Semis Whoopsie doo Attached Images __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

01-20-2017, 07:39 PM	#1467
C10 - C90 Bill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moneta, VA USA Posts: 3,087	Re: GM Semis Oh, no. Wonder where this happened. Looks like it was about 1968. __________________ '60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan GMC 9500 Fan Detroit Diesel Fan

01-20-2017, 08:56 PM	#1468
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis Talk about a train wreck, that really is one. And what a precious cargo to be hauling __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-30-2017, 07:40 AM	#1472
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis Another oldie Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-31-2017, 09:39 PM	#1473
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis xxx Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-02-2017, 09:04 AM	#1474
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,253	Re: GM Semis Rick Sousa photo Attached Images __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "



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02-02-2017, 09:26 AM	#1475
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: GM Semis I love that truck...409! The owner is a great guy to work for, coming from his drivers. The Marmon in the background is his and the driver hired my buddy to touch up some pinstripe and letter something like his name or "Class of...". When the guy went to hand Chuck his money Chuck told him his boss already paid. I know it's his truck anyway, but still was a cool gesture I witnessed Another picture and some of his other stuff: Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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