I think i can!!! - SWB 72 Step-side

[dnd1978]

Look what came in today! No Limit rack kit.

[big_al_71]

Great work....

[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by big_al_71

Great work....

big al 71,

Thanks.

After looking at the pictures I might need to take a camera class next!!

[giles70chevy]

I might have missed something in some of the previous posts, but why are you moving the X-member forward 1"? Is it because of the wheels being centered in the wheel well?

[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by giles70chevy

I might have missed something in some of the previous posts, but why are you moving the X-member forward 1"? Is it because of the wheels being centered in the wheel well?

giles70chevy,

Yes, Im moveing the X-member forward to center the front wheel and change the handling.

[VA72C10]

Looking good! Like the gussets and braces....nice and solid. And love the accuair products!

[BuiltwithIvy]

So a small thing I noticed, before you weld the bung for the trailing arms solid, I would suggest drilling some holes through the side of your tubing near the ends so you can plug weld it as well, safety on suspension is pretty important! I know this is something I have always done when making 4-bar kits, and have yet to run into a problem. But all things considered, its lookin awesome, keep up the kick @ss work!!!

[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by BuiltwithIvy

So a small thing I noticed, before you weld the bung for the trailing arms solid, I would suggest drilling some holes through the side of your tubing near the ends so you can plug weld it as well, safety on suspension is pretty important! I know this is something I have always done when making 4-bar kits, and have yet to run into a problem. But all things considered, its lookin awesome, keep up the kick @ss work!!!

BuiltwithIvy
Thanks for the advice! I had thought about it, but was not sure if I needed it. Will do!

Later

[dnd1978]

Whats up guys? I hope yall had a good weekend. I got some work done on the truck with the help of my dad. We assembled the front end, installed new motor mounts and installed the motor to check the fit. When i installed the new motor mounts we lowered the motor 1" and pushed it back 2". It feels good to see some parts going back on the frame!!! The rack kit from no-limit is installed and looks good.

[lolife99]

You might want to check,... But I'm sure the CPP upper a-arms are on the wrong sides.
(the straight tube goes in the front)
The upper balljoint should be closer to the front of the truck.

Here's a picture from a Classic trucks Tech article.
http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/10...s/viewall.html

They also install the balljoint on the bottom side for some reason.

[dnd1978]

Lolife,

Haha! i know... just check if anybody is looking at my thread. Thanks

Originally Posted by lolife99

You might want to check,... But I'm sure the CPP upper a-arms are on the wrong sides.
(the straight tube goes in the front)
The upper balljoint should be closer to the front of the truck.

Here's a picture from a Classic trucks Tech article.
http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/10...s/viewall.html

They also install the balljoint on the bottom side for some reason.

[chevyrestoguy]

Originally Posted by lolife99

You might want to check,... But I'm sure the CPP upper a-arms are on the wrong sides.
(the straight tube goes in the front)
The upper balljoint should be closer to the front of the truck.

Here's a picture from a Classic trucks Tech article.
http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/10...s/viewall.html

They also install the balljoint on the bottom side for some reason.

When I first saw the picture showing the view from the top down, I thought the same thing about the arms being swapped. What caught me was the noticeable offset between the upper balljoint and the lower balljoint. But then my brain started thinking................

We are always trying to gain caster to make the trucks go down the road better and to also help in the handling department. That picture sure looked like the swap moved the balljoint to the rear, thus gaining caster. Now, I'm just commenting from my computer, but COULD the arms be safely swapped from side to side to gain caster, or is this idea not physically possible because of other elements like balljoint angle, possible ackerman issues, or A-arm forward-to-aft angle? Just food for thought, and I would love to hear any comments on this idea.

Also, the picture from Classic Trucks showing the balljoint bolted on from the bottom seems wrong to me. Unless there's no physical way to bolt them in from the top, it seems to me that every factory balljoint I have ever seen was installed from the top side, not from the bottom. Maybe CCP designed their arms with the balljoint to be installed from the bottom side only? Just seems weird to me.

You are doing a GREAT job on this build! I really like your "no fear" attitude and the ability to tackle anything head-on!!!! I'll be watching this one, for sure.

[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by chevyrestoguy

When I first saw the picture showing the view from the top down, I thought the same thing about the arms being swapped. What caught me was the noticeable offset between the upper balljoint and the lower balljoint. But then my brain started thinking................

We are always trying to gain caster to make the trucks go down the road better and to also help in the handling department. That picture sure looked like the swap moved the balljoint to the rear, thus gaining caster. Now, I'm just commenting from my computer, but COULD the arms be safely swapped from side to side to gain caster, or is this idea not physically possible because of other elements like balljoint angle, possible ackerman issues, or A-arm forward-to-aft angle? Just food for thought, and I would love to hear any comments on this idea.

Also, the picture from Classic Trucks showing the balljoint bolted on from the bottom seems wrong to me. Unless there's no physical way to bolt them in from the top, it seems to me that every factory balljoint I have ever seen was installed from the top side, not from the bottom. Maybe CCP designed their arms with the balljoint to be installed from the bottom side only? Just seems weird to me.

You are doing a GREAT job on this build! I really like your "no fear" attitude and the ability to tackle anything head-on!!!! I'll be watching this one, for sure.

chevyrestoguy,

Thanks! This is my first build and I have learned a lot plus I’m hooked. I really enjoy the Fabrication part of building.

With the a-arm flipped around you would gain too much caster (way to much). When the a-arms where switch around (the wrong way)the spindles where laid back so far that the steering stops would hit the a-arms, stopping it from making a complete turn. After I reversed the arms this problem was gone and you could see the amount of caster was way less. I’m shooting for 8-9 deg. of caster when done. The Cpp arms have 4 deg caster build in and I’m hopping for another 4-5 deg. by moving the a-arm mounts on the X-member back .5'.

About the ball joints I’m not sure. I will just mount them like the stock arms. I will drop Jeff at cpp a message about this and see what he says.

Later

[chevyrestoguy]

Originally Posted by dnd1978

........ I’m shooting for 8-9 deg. of caster when done. The Cpp arms have 4 deg caster build in and I’m hopping for another 4-5 deg. by moving the a-arm mounts on the X-member back .5'.

I like where you're going with this. I am planning on the same thing on the upper mounts. I am also doing a mod on my stock lower arm that will gain some additional caster. I am dropping the parts off to the machinist today. I'll update my '64 build thread as I progress on that mod.

[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by chevyrestoguy

I like where you're going with this. I am planning on the same thing on the upper mounts. I am also doing a mod on my stock lower arm that will gain some additional caster. I am dropping the parts off to the machinist today. I'll update my '64 build thread as I progress on that mod.

I will be watching. I have been following your 55 build for some time now. Great work on the the metal!

[gringoloco]

Haha- nice! The ball joints used to not fit correctly on the CPP arms- you have them installed the safer way...
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[BBcj8]

Did you end up getting the Professional products injection? I have it on my 427 in my jeep.
I have liked it dont have alot of miles on it yet but runs good and is programable which is nice.

[dnd1978]

BBcj8,

Thanks for the info. I did not get my fuel injection kit yet. I have it down to 2 different kits Professional Products or Holley Avenger EFI 4bbl Injection System. Im still thinking about it.

Originally Posted by BBcj8

Did you end up getting the Professional products injection? I have it on my 427 in my jeep.
I have liked it dont have alot of miles on it yet but runs good and is programable which is nice.

[BBcj8]

Good luck nice build.

[CheyenneShop]

Nice work on this one!

[Hduramax]

Build is looking sweet, keep up the good work, I like the trailing arms, was thinking of doing the same to my truck

[bmfpeterson]

Dude this truck is so ****in cool!

[dnd1978]

Thanks guys. I need all the motivation I can get. I’m hoping to have it done by Cruising the Coast 2012. By done i mean drivable because i think there never done.

Originally Posted by BBcj8

Good luck nice build.

Originally Posted by theCheyenneShop

Nice work on this one!

Originally Posted by Hduramax

Build is looking sweet, keep up the good work, I like the trailing arms, was thinking of doing the same to my truck

Originally Posted by bmfpeterson

Dude this truck is so ****in cool!

[502ms]

Wow! I love it!I've watched your YouTube vids so much...did not know you were on here!
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[dnd1978]

Originally Posted by 502ms

Wow! I love it!I've watched your YouTube vids so much...did not know you were on here!
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502ms,

Thanks, Its been so long since i driven it or even heard the motor i watch them somtimes too. HAHA