![]() |
|
![]() |
#1 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Some modest progress to report on the wagon. The body shell is completely gutted and ready to transport to RSI for stripping and e-coating. I removed the roof braces at the B and C pillars in order to remove the factory sound deadener. Will weld it back in after putting in new thermal/sound barrier. We weren't too far from RSI earlier this week when we dropped off the roof line, belt line and windshield stainless at Vintage Vehicles. They will restore it to better than new condition. Plus they'll modify the new lower rear quarter stainless to provide added clearance for the trailing edge of the suicide door.
We decided to hand deliver the stainless since Kathy wanted to go on a road trip before she starts chemotherapy. We found out last week that due to the grade and size of her tumor, chemo will be required after all. She has her first of four treatments next week. Hated the news but understand the rationale. If all goes like they say, she should bounce back after a week or two, so maybe we can schedule a trip to RSI between treatments. We'll see. One of the tri-five members suggested using an air file to put the rectangular holes needed for the crown molding clips. It works great as you can see from the photos. I found some small square files on eBay but had to wait about three weeks for them to arrive from Britain. Impressive quality files for not a lot of $$ I have to say. I'm waiting for the rear driver side floor patch panel to arrive. I've decided to install it prior to having the body stripped and coated. Will post up some photos when finished. Mostly (between doctor visits) I've been cleaning parts in the solvent tank and blast cabinet. Not very glamorous stuff, but necessary.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 8,451
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
That air file probably saved a lot of time! Is RSI gonna blast it or is this a chemical strip process?
__________________
Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 | |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Quote:
![]() My understanding is that RSI dips the part in an alkaline bath that strips paint, undercoating, adhesive, seam sealer, plastic filler and anything else organic. It gets rinsed and then goes into a bath to remove any rust. They rinse again, neutralize and dry it before it is immersed in a paint tank. They apply an electric charge to the metal which bonds a layer of paint to it. It then gets baked in an oven to cure the paint. The e-coating winds up in all the nooks and crannies which helps prevent corrosion down the road. Stripping and e-coating the body shell is around $3k, but should be worth it in the long run.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Proprietor of Dale's Corner
![]() Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Vacaville , CA
Posts: 16,103
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
The immersion in the e coat sounds like itwould prevent a lot of problems for a long time.
__________________
"Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 8,451
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Yep, what I wanted to do with my truck but it’s kind of unobtainable.
__________________
Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Been awhile since I last posted - time for some catching up.
Kathy and I made a quick trip to Franklin, WI this week to drop off the body shell and hood for the wagon. The folks at RSI met us at 7:30am Wednesday and made quick work of unloading the rolling chassis, body and etc. off the trailer. They gave us the nickel tour and we were impressed with the quality of their process. We were a bit surprised when we found out they don't actually do the e-coating onsite. They use a company in Michigan for that part. RSI personnel rack the parts in a special cage for transport to and from their shop. The cage also serves as the container for the e-coat process. Once it returns, they unbolt everything and touch up any uncoated air pockets. The body is positioned on its side for the coating so places in the wheel wells could trap air. Where needed, they will drill 1/8" holes for venting. They estimate about an 8 week timeframe from start to finish. We were back in KC by 6pm Wednesday with no problems. I was a little nervous about the timing as there was no room for error. Kathy had her second chemo Thursday morning and we didn't want to have to reschedule . The truck we rented didn't have GPS so she was my main navigator. Fortunately we figured out how to use Google Maps on the smartphone which saved our bacon a couple of times. The doors, inner and outer front fenders and a bunch of garnish moldings are at the media blasters being stripped. I cut the bottoms of the door skins off all four doors and they'll blast the inner shells clean before I re-skin them. When I get it all back, I'll take the first load of parts to the powder coating outfit I like to use. The engine is coming right along. Ohio Speed emailed me the dyno sheet this morning and it showed almost 488HP at 6300 rpm along with impressive average torque numbers. He should wrap it up by next week and get it on the way. Right now my workshop looks almost deserted. The rims and tires arrived and I stuck them on the RS chassis to see if my measurements panned out. Looks like everything will fit nicely. Once the engine and trans arrive, I'll test fit them into the chassis and then blow the chassis apart for powder coating. Lots to do before RSI calls me to come retrieve the body.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rosenberg, Texas
Posts: 3,506
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Sounds like you're getting a good amount of work done. The chassis and wheels look good! Glad to see you're still at it and Kathy is doing okay. Prayers are still with you both.
__________________
-Duane C/10 Club Texas member 1971 Chevy C10 "Brutus" SWB Fleetside 2016 6.0L (L96) 6L90E (driver/project) 1965 Pontiac GTO "Royal Goat" 400/TH400 w/AC (my baby) |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Post Whore
![]() ![]() Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 14,639
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
chassis looks great Vic!!!...and lonely...
__________________
Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 | |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Quote:
Thanks, Greg. It will be getting some company very soon. Engine builder sent me some pics of the bullet this morning and it should be on the way to me this week. Can't wait to test fit it into the chassis.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rosenberg, Texas
Posts: 3,506
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
That looks pretty!
![]()
__________________
-Duane C/10 Club Texas member 1971 Chevy C10 "Brutus" SWB Fleetside 2016 6.0L (L96) 6L90E (driver/project) 1965 Pontiac GTO "Royal Goat" 400/TH400 w/AC (my baby) |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
It's made by Synister Products in Florida. I also had to ask the engine builder when I first saw it. I used a March setup on Crusty but liked this one just as well. You couldn't really see much of the FEAD on the truck since it sat so close to the radiator fans. Hopefully it will be more out in the open on the wagon.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
With body parts out for work, I've been building the EFI fuel tank I plan to use. I looked online for something ready made, but wasn't inclined to pay the $$ they wanted for a 16 gallon tank. I really preferred something bigger, so I ended up with a 25 gallon EFI tank for an 87 Blazer. You can pick a new one up for around $100 and free shipping. I added an Aeromotive Stealth 340 in-tank pump, a Classic Instruments "floatless" fuel sending unit that will match the Dakota Digital gauges and a Spectra fuel pickup for the Blazer tank from Rock Auto. The rest I modified. Overall, I saved about $100 over a store bought unit, plus it has a lot more capacity and a higher rated pump.
The best way to fit the tank in the car and still have room for the battery required that I relocate the fuel inlet and change up the end of the stock filler tube. I used a little homemade tool to bead the end of a piece of 1-3/4" tubing and then welded it into the end of the stock filler tube. It will connect to the relocated inlet via a Gates rubber fuel hose. The tank came with a depression that was the exact right spot for the fuel gauge sender. I fabricated a 1/8" cold rolled ring threaded for the brass screws included with the floatless sender. It fits inside the tank and is held in place with a couple of countersunk stainless rivets. If you squint real hard it almost looks factory. Finished up by blocking off the old filler neck and adding weather pack connectors for the sender and the pump. When I get the body back, I'll get the tank mounted to the underside of the new floor and figure out the best way to incorporate the battery box. I plan to have access panels in the floor to service the battery and fuel system ...just in case. Learned my lesson with CRLS. ![]()
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Post Whore
![]() ![]() Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 14,639
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Tank looks great Vic...I've got one of those floatless senders for mine to...
__________________
Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 |
Proprietor of Dale's Corner
![]() Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Vacaville , CA
Posts: 16,103
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
How does a floatless sender work?
__________________
"Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Post Whore
![]() ![]() Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 14,639
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
I copied this Dale...
Most aftermarket fuel senders use a rotating float arm and resistance cards to measure the amount of fuel in a tank which can lead to erratic pointer movements. This Floatless Fuel Sender utilizes an internal pressure transducer to measure the amount of fuel in a tank. The concept behind this sender is hydraulics and pressure. The part of the sender that sticks into the fuel is a hollow tube that fills up to the level of fuel in the tank. The change in pressure at the pressure transducer is directly related to the level of fuel in the tank. As the fuel level increases, so does the pressure at the transducer. As the fuel level decreases, the pressure at the transducer also decreases. The tubular design acts as a dampener to prevent the gauge pointer from moving due to fuel slosh. The floatless fuel sender has no side to side motion, which means it has no moving parts to wear out. It is top mounted and utilizes the aftermarket standard SAE 5 hole mounting flange and comes complete with neoprene gasket and mounting hardware. This sender is available in three different ohm ranges, 0-90, 240-33 and 10-180 and is compatible with gasoline, diesel, oils, and many other fluids. Each unit is designed for tanks 6-12 inches or 12-24 inches in depth and can easily be easily trimmed to fit individual fuel tanks exactly!
__________________
Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#16 | |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Quote:
The one I bought from Classic Instruments has only two wires (ground and fuel gauge connection). It sounds like there's a component that moves up and down inside the tube when you flip it over. I hooked up an ohmmeter to it and it measured 10.3 ohms at one end, then flipped it upside down and it measured 183.9 ohms at the other end of the travel. The unit is advertised as a 10-180 ohm sender so the readings are within normal tolerances, IMO. So I'm thinking it uses some other approach that mimics a variable resistor. Classic Instruments doesn't actually call this "floatless" but refers to it simply as a "tube sender" which is probably more accurate. I'm betting the moving part inside the tube rises and falls with the fuel level but is less affected by fuel slosh. Just my guess. (I'm so far underwater on this build I have no desire to cut it open as a science project.) ![]() I didn't want the conventional type sender with the float arm and variable resistor due to space constraints and erratic operation. I never did get the one on CRLS adjusted properly even though I followed the instructions as closely as possible. So I'm gonna give this a shot.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#17 |
Proprietor of Dale's Corner
![]() Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Vacaville , CA
Posts: 16,103
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Thanks mongo, I found the same principal on my washing machine at my cabin. A mouse ate through a tube that told the machine when water level was right. A piece of vac tube and no more overflowing. A neat concept indeed.
__________________
"Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#18 |
Proprietor of Dale's Corner
![]() Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Vacaville , CA
Posts: 16,103
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Thanks Vic, not effected by slosh sounds pretty good. I'll leave the engineering to the pros.
![]()
__________________
"Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#19 |
Post Whore
![]() ![]() Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 14,639
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
i used the one from tanks inc......http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/pa...rod/prd346.htm
__________________
Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#20 | |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
Quote:
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#21 |
Post Whore
![]() ![]() Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 14,639
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
I don't think ive heard anything moving in mine...ill check it tomorrow and see for sure..
__________________
Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#22 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
I've got a bunch of parts ready to go out for powder coating, so I took a couple of hours yesterday and did some spray out cards with colors I'm considering for my project. I'm partial to silvers and greys, so I dug thru my paint box and pulled everything I had. Also went to my local paint supplier and had him mix some 1/4 pint samples of a few other colors I've seen and liked.
I sprayed a total of 11 samples and have pretty well decided on Mercedes Benz Iridium Silver (yellow arrows) for the exterior and either GM Storm Grey on the left or (cough:cough) Ford Tungsten Grey on the right for the chassis. I'll take the samples with me and see what they offer that matches my choices the best. I've used these guys for several previous builds and they have a ton of colors, plus they'll order anything I like they may not have on hand. They've powder coated a large selection of colors on aluminum cans and have them hung on a large white board for comparison. That way you can see what you're actually going to get as opposed to chip charts that don't always give an accurate view. Now if I can just get the last of my parts from the media blaster, I'll be ready for a day trip. The engine builder sent me the PRO number for my shipment. It should be here at the local terminal ready for pickup on Friday. No word yet on the delivery date for the trans and converter, but hopefully won't be long.
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#23 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Indep, MO
Posts: 5,893
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
As always, if you need a haul, just holler!
__________________
Boppa's Old Yeller Truck Build, Old Yeller's New Heart! Project Buzz Bomb Flyin' Low! |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#24 |
Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,011
|
Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'
__________________
Victor 57 Chevy Wagon - California Dreamin'"Mecum'd" 9/2022 Dallas, TX Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Consigned 4/2019 Dresden, Germany Maybelline - my '57 Ford 2dr Sedan "Mecum'd" 3/2016 Location unknown Silver Streaker "Mecum'd" 4/2013 Somewhere in Texas |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Bookmarks |
|
|