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Old 11-10-2015, 08:54 PM   #1
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

10" rallys were never offered from GM.
Summit sells 15x10" truck rallys.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-42-5005042

with free shipping.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:21 PM   #2
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

Back space. The distance from the wheel mounting surface to the back edge of the rim.

Wheels are also measure by "offset". The amount that the wheel mounting surface is moved from the center of the rim. A 12mm "positive" offset moves the mounting surface 1/2" closer to the vehicle while a 12mm "negative" offset moves the surface 1/2" further away from the vehicle. Negative offset helps tuck wheels.

A zero offset wheel means the mounting surface is centered in the wheel. My 17x8's are zero offset. An 8" wide wheel (measured to the inside of the bead seat) is 9" overall width so a 4 1/2" backspace is zero offset.
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Old 11-11-2015, 02:00 AM   #3
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

first off thanks Mike C & CericD for the good info!
okay kool, I officially know I have rallies forsure and they are 15x8
I will try and find the back spacing on them soon.
thanks again.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:09 PM   #4
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:31 PM   #5
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

Just caught this thread ... OP, your truck in my eyes had the absolute perfect look. Great color, great stance, great tire and wheel combo.

I think I read in there somewhere your tires may rub on the front a little. I had that in my off topic truck. There are tools (or even a bat) that you can use to roll your inner lip and it wont effect the look of the truck at all. I google searched it, lots of YouTube vids on it.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:02 AM   #6
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Just caught this thread ... OP, your truck in my eyes had the absolute perfect look. Great color, great stance, great tire and wheel combo.

I think I read in there somewhere your tires may rub on the front a little. I had that in my off topic truck. There are tools (or even a bat) that you can use to roll your inner lip and it wont effect the look of the truck at all. I google searched it, lots of YouTube vids on it.
you mean theres a way for me to keep the tire size I have (275 60 15) and not have it rub the fender? I also read earlier that the nice green truck that this threads about rubbed a bit ... had me thinkin if theres a way of fixin it without gettn new tires.
im going to try searching youtube for it, if someone has the link to it .post it please. thanks!
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:55 PM   #7
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you mean theres a way for me to keep the tire size I have (275 60 15) and not have it rub the fender? I also read earlier that the nice green truck that this threads about rubbed a bit ... had me thinkin if theres a way of fixin it without gettn new tires.
im going to try searching youtube for it, if someone has the link to it .post it please. thanks!
yeah that's the one I was talking about, not that yours isn't nice too
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:25 PM   #8
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

does anyone know how to remove the tie rod from the spindle?
im having a hard time taking it off.. I removed castle nut already.
and im banging the bolt with a rubber hammer and im also banging the tie rod up but its not moving. any help thanks.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:26 PM   #9
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

and also does the tie rod go in the same way after I put new drop spindle on?
(wich is thru the top, the tie rod sitting on the spindle.)
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:34 PM   #10
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

You gotta use a "pickle fork" - a tie rod separator that you can loan from an auto parts store. It wedges between the underside of the tie rod and the upper side of the spindle, and forces the tie rod out of the spindle. You'll be amazed at how simple. You don't want to bang directly on the tie rod threads with a hammer or you'll risk bending or mushrooming the end of the tie rod, and it'll be junk. You could end up having to cut it out with a grinder by hammering. Pickle fork is your best friend lol
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:37 PM   #11
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

Although a rubber mallet shouldn't do you any damage... Yes, the tie rod will go back on the new spindle the same way - down from the top. Looking forward to see the end result!
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:59 PM   #12
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

Cool thanks!
I will be getting a pickle fork tomorrow.
By "down from the top" you mean the tie rod sits ON TOP of the spindle and the castle nut goes on the bottom of spindle right?
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:26 AM   #13
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

just finished the front end drop.
now im waiting on the rear coils to get here, probably should be in tomorrow or Monday.
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Old 12-19-2015, 01:23 PM   #14
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

What were the torque spec's for the rear u bolts?
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:51 AM   #15
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

Your truck looks awesome!! I'm running a 4/6 as well on my stepper..
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Old 12-22-2015, 04:42 PM   #16
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

215 ft lbs. And re torque after 500 miles. If you want to PM me your email, I'll send you a scan of the install instructions.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:32 PM   #17
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

I was really impressed with this thread, I just loved this truck and the stance of the kit you fitted so I ordered the kit and the sway bar and had it all shipped over here to the UK costing me another $500.

I picked up the boxes today after waiting 2 months for it to be delivered and what do you know, the springs are missing
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I was really impressed with this thread, I just loved this truck and the stance of the kit you fitted so I ordered the kit and the sway bar and had it all shipped over here to the UK costing me another $500.

I picked up the boxes today after waiting 2 months for it to be delivered and what do you know, the springs are missing
Have you called ECE? They should send them free of charge.

Let us know how this works out.
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That is absolute unacceptable. Please post if ECE corrects their mistake and gets you your parts ASAP.
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That is absolute unacceptable. Please post if ECE corrects their mistake and gets you your parts ASAP.
What makes you IMMEDIATELY assume that it was ECE's fault?

I'm just wondering.

I must have missed something.
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What makes you IMMEDIATELY assume that it was ECE's fault?

I'm just wondering.

I must have missed something.
It's the most likely explanation. The alternative is someone stole just the springs from this fellow's shipment and left everything else? Hopefully we get an update and he get his very costly parts in his hands soon.

Also, ECE's attention to detail is a bit inconsistent in my experience with a spring set I returned to them for exchange that sat in their receivables section for weeks until I called them and discovered they'd failed to fulfil their promise sending me replacement springs. May have been a one-off case. I still recommend ECE's parts and am happy with my setup. It would drive me nuts to wait as long as this fellow did and pay $500 for shipping to have poor order QC by ECE (my assumption) be the cause of further delay.
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Re: My 4/6" ECE lowering install thread - 72 Shorty

ECE messed up but they are sending the springs over to me free of charge now

Im pissed but at least I know its getting sorted and I will get my truck done one day
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ECE messed up but they are sending the springs over to me free of charge now

Im pissed but at least I know its getting sorted and I will get my truck done one day
Since you waited 2 months for you initial shipment, how long is this one going to take? Is "Customs" the bottle neck?
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Some other photos to illustrate the stance after the install.





Hauling it home to Canada:
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Hauling it home to Canada:
I know your running 275/60/15 tyres but what size rims do you have ? I have Cragers but I will be getting some Rally wheels when I fit the lowering kit, This is mine as it is now
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