'50 5 window.....s10 swap

[rhodog77]

99,

Yes, I do believe it is 90 ohm. As far as the setup. The stock s10 fuel sending unit and tank hole was about 4 inches in diameter. My new sending unit is about 2 1/2 inches wide. (I dont remember the exact measurements) but basically my new unit was way to small to fit the stock hole. I made a spacer ring the same size as the stock unit and the bolted my new sending unit to it. I made it from stainless so it wouldnt rust into the tank. BTW, and Im sure you know.....stainless steel suuuxxxx to cut. I had to buy some really good hole saws to get the spacer perfect. Had to use a drill press set on a low setting to get a good cut. I bought a new snap lock ring to lock the spacer into place. Since the stock s10 sending unit had the fuel lines running thru it i had to add my own fuel lines directly into the tank. I just drilled out 3 holes (different size lines) added a main, a return and a vent... Not sure if I needed the vent but since the stock sending unit had one I put one it. I got my motor up and running off the tank now and everything is working, so I guess its right. I hope this helps and makes since. BTW I have a few more spacers if you need one, be more than happy to send you one. You might have to adapt it to fit your sending unit but at least its a start. As far as the tank, thats stock?? Here are a few pix.

[99 to Life]

dog,

excellent, this is almost exactly what I wanted to do and am surprised there isn't more of this out there on these s-10 swaps. I had two s-10 tanks, one leaked so I took it out, then the other one,had quite a bit of gas in it, so I didn't want to drain it and drill it etc. I wanted to have a my buddy cnc me a piece that would fit in that 4" diameter but would be recessed for the sending unit and also have the male adapters for the lines. BUT one thing led to another and I just bought a tank from tanksinc and a sending unit from classicparts and am running it as a 30 ohm. Set me back almost 300 bucks but I am really convinced I can get the s-10 tank set up in my next truck.

As for the spacer, if you could part ways with one that would be great, if not no worries at all. I could and would use it, even though I really thought about having some cnc'd out and offering them to people with this very problem. I think for you having the vent is the proper way to do it as well.

thanks for the pics. I think this is an essential part of these builds and I had big plans to do it, but didn't and you did and it looks like it is working out great.

[vintage_car]

Did u make those 3 additional lines into the tank or cut them off something else? Do you have pics of te gauges?
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[rhodog77]

vintage,

got your PM. i made the fuel lines. I matched up the 2 lines from my fuel pump, main and return and the last one was the vent. I bent them up and cut them to length. The only one that was a pain was the main line. Getting the length right took some time, so it would pickup at the lowest point of the tank. here is a quick pic of the gauges. There arent bolted in, just slid into the dash. I had to buy the spacer/adapter for the AD trucks to make them fit. TPI Tech sells them as well but they are way over priced. They want 105 for the spacers alone. I got mine a goodguys Columbus last year for 50.00 and I think I paid 220 for the gauges.

[rhodog77]

Thank God for long weekends. I decided to tackle the radiator mounts today. I got them welded and boxed in. Im going to try to hang the front end back on tomorrow when I can get some help. I have a power steering pump leak that I need to tackle while the front end is off. I have a bad seal that needs replaced. Anyway here is a pix of the radiator mount. They aren't the prettiest but they are strong as hell!!

[vintage_car]

can you point out which is main, vent and return on your gas tank pic?

[rhodog77]

Vintage,

all 3 lines are different sizes. the largest, 3/8 line is for the main fuel supply. The middle line is 5/16 and is for the return and the smallest is 1/4 for the vent. The important thing is that the lines should match up to your fuel pump. Now, some of the guys that I run around with only use a main line and plug the return up at the fuel pump. It works for them but I figured that if my s10 had 3 stock lines, that is what I was going to do as well. Mine is running very smooth with good pedal response. I got your PM, glad to know you got the spacer.....I hope it works for you. My gauges did not come with a fuel pump, just the sender.

[duwem]

Who did you buy the mirrors from?

I have heard them called "Carolina mirrors" I'm assuming they are the same thing, just different brands have different lingo.

[99 to Life]

After all that fuss with my peep mirror I finally got the drivers side one all line up and it works ok. The pass one I can't see out of for the life of me though.
I thought california mirrors where those trucker mirrors, the long verticle ones. Def too much lingo out there I guess or I'm just not paying attention.

It's nice when you finally get all the pedals hooked up, feels like things are really coming together. Sux though how much room you loose under there though with some mixed matched set ups. I like how my stuff functions but it is a pain to get under there and route wires and get behind the gauges. Not complaining but I think I might try some aftermarket stuff on the next one.

[rhodog77]

I got the mirrors off ebay from a place called speed pro performance. I got them for under 50 bucks, shipped. Im not sure what they are actually called. I have always called them california sport mirrors. I think that the long vertical ones with the large brackets are called western mirrors. Who knows.... I have seen them called all kinds of stuff. I call them cool!!! The best thing is that they are fully functional. I might remount them a bit higer on the door. The pax side is a little low. I agree with the brake/gas pedal setup. Next time I think that i will go with a frame mounted master cylinder for the brakes and an aftermarket gas pedal. This will do on this build cuz it was free with the S10.

[vintage_car]

Bracketry is what I was looking at. So it's stock 350 for the bracket that holds the throttle linkage and carb throttle spring.
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[rhodog77]

Yep, all stock brackets. You must be getting close to having yours on the road.

[vintage_car]

It is getting closer. Power steering pump is fighting the whole way! Finding hoses that work and brackets are being a pain. Fuel lines are still not done, nor is the electric pump, wiring needs attention, but it is getting there.
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[vintage_car]

are you using a kickdown cable?

[rhodog77]

Hey Vintage,

I am running a stock kickdown. If you look really close, it is attached to the bottom end of the butterfly on the carb. It runs just behind the large return spring. I have only moved the truck around in the driveway a handful of times. I did run it around my neighborhood for a few minutes but never got up enough speed to have the tranny shift. I didnt have my fan hooked up so I did want to get the motor to hot.

[vintage_car]

do you have a pic of it mounted on the transmission? I don't have any of these components, guess I need to go to the parts store...

[rhodog77]

Vintage,

I dont have a pic of mine. I can get one if you need. I did find one few online though. Check it out and let me know if you still need something.

http://www3.telus.net/public/djs67/m..._cable_cut.jpg

In the pic, its the one that says cut here (not sure why it says that or why you would cut your kickdown).

[kustombrad]

If you're running a 700r4, that's the TV cable and NOT a kickdown. Make sure you have it adjusted right or you'll smoke the transmission! Looking good!
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[vintage_car]

Originally Posted by kustombrad

If you're running a 700r4, that's the TV cable and NOT a kickdown. Make sure you have it adjusted right or you'll smoke the transmission! Looking good!
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Mines a turbo 350, but I have been reading and some say you can use one and some say you don't need one...

[vintage_car]

what did you do for a lower radiator hose? I bought one of those universal hoses, but there are some decent kinks in it that I just wouldn't trust on a real drive.

[rhodog77]

Kustom,

thanks for the clarification. To be honest....I had always planned on a tranny shop adjusting the TV and taking care of the lockup. Thats something that I have no knowledge about and definetly dont want to tackle myself.

Vintage,

I will take some pix tomorrow. The lower radiator was a pain in the butt. I too, tried a piece of flexi hose but it kinked way to tight for my liking. It worked but I just didnt feel comfortable getting it out on the road like that. So... what I did was went to my muffler shop, got a stick of pipe and had them bend me up the tightest U bend they could. It still wasnt fitting right so I took the torches to it and bent it some more. I basically used the pipe as a spacer. The angle of the radiator spout and the spout on my engine was way out of wack. This was really the only way I could make it work. I will take a pic tomorrow. Like I say.....It aint purty but it'll work.

[vintage_car]

there are quite a few youtube videos on how to install and adjust that TV cable. might help to watch a couple of those.

YouTube - ‪Monster Transmissions,...

That one seemed pretty straight forward... but I think they might have been using a kit.

[vintage_car]

I think that is te problem with mine. It did work, but now it is Avery metallic noise. The 'stock' starter you got... What year/make vehicle did you order it for...since ours are a collection of parts
I need spacers for my gauges at some point, did you say you picked them up at a goodguys show cheaper?
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[rhodog77]

Vintage,

Look at the flywheel and see how much of the teeth are "shiny" Mine was making less than an 1/8 contact with the starter. I tried shimming but it still wasnt enough. I picked up an el cheapo starter at autozone for like 40 bucks. The new one didnt require any shims at all. My motor is all stock from a 1985 Chevy full size pickup. As for the gauge trim rings. I did pick them up at goodguys last year. The are from TPI. Here is the website.

http://www.tpigauges.com/5_quad_sets.htm

I dont see the trim rings on their website but im sure if you call them they can give you the info. If I make it up to the show I will get some more info for you. Im stuck in ATL trying to catch a flight home tonight....dont think I will be going anywhere.....standby SUX!!

[99 to Life]

glad you got your fan all figured out. I think you will be happy with it. post some pics of it