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nickp51chevy · 03-12-2010, 03:09 PM

Ya know; when ever I see this thread come up in my subscriptions I get real excited to see what happens When I scroll through to the last thread and see that people are just commenting on your awesomeness and there are no picture updates I go into a slight depression. Then I go to the next thread and I'm over it.

Keep the updates coming!

BBEEP · 03-12-2010, 03:16 PM

DIP SHOP PICS! Should have it back next Friday. Wow, thats a lot of parts on the trailer. No front clip or front doors!

nickp51chevy · 03-12-2010, 03:20 PM

Yeesssss!

I need to get one of those forklift cab lift dealy thingys.

sparkydog · 03-12-2010, 03:33 PM

Hi BBeep. Just discovered your build thread. I guess Oregon boys have extra creativity... I live in West Linn. I'm transplanting some 67 & 68 International Harvester body parts onto the donor chassis/body of a 97 GMC Z71 Extd Cab. And how weird that I am at almost exactly the same stage - getting ready to graft the firewall from the 97GMC onto the cab of the 68 IH. Dealing with the same thoughts you are - how to blend the old cowl air intake - what to do about wiper motor and wiper post mounts.

We probably have similar goals - I want the modern technology but under some older skin. I hope to be cutting my firewalls in about 2 weeks. Still have a few things to strip off the Z71 before the sawzall fires up. Here's a couple of pics.

Sorry for the hijack - can't wait to follow your progress. Great project!

jbjburbs · 03-12-2010, 03:36 PM

using a frame off a truck vs. a unibody truck seems to be a lot different...I haven't priced out wrecked cars lately to know that cost. I guess I was thinking about maintenance parts being more expensive and limited over the aftermarket world for the mustang II, 9in rears, etc.

If you can do it cheaper that's cool, my preference to build a frame and drop the body on, but i'm not known for being the smartest.. again not ripping just curious.. good luck.

BBEEP · 03-12-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbjburbs

using a frame off a truck vs. a unibody truck seems to be a lot different...I haven't priced out wrecked cars lately to know that cost. I guess I was thinking about maintenance parts being more expensive and limited over the aftermarket world for the mustang II, 9in rears, etc.

If you can do it cheaper that's cool, my preference to build a frame and drop the body on, but i'm not known for being the smartest.. again not ripping just curious.. good luck.

SORRY JBJBURBS! The Envoy is NOT unibody. In fact, as stated before, it is a TRUCK and the frame is WAY heavier duty than the original frame, aftermarket frame, or S-10.

jbjburbs · 03-12-2010, 03:50 PM

Proof again that skimming and assuming don't make for good threads comments.. thanks for clearing it up.

NONHOG · 03-12-2010, 04:03 PM

BBEEP I know if I were you I'd be all excited to see that fresh from the stripper. I'm looking forward to pics !

sparkydog, you should add a thread on Alternate tinkerings thats a cool build !

sparkydog · 03-12-2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NONHOG

sparkydog, you should add a thread on Alternate tinkerings thats a cool build !

OK good idea. Just did it. I had never seen that section of the site.

BBEEP · 03-17-2010, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NONHOG

BBEEP I know if I were you I'd be all excited to see that fresh from the stripper. I'm looking forward to pics !!

Yup, pretty exciting--back from the dipshop!!

Fat Mike · 03-17-2010, 06:26 PM

WOW! That's is definetly the way to go if you have the money. Very nice and keep the pictures coming.

BBEEP · 03-17-2010, 08:00 PM

About $1800 for all the sheet metal. Compare that to a month hard labor at $10 an hour!

nickp51chevy · 03-17-2010, 08:13 PM

Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic.

BBEEP · 03-17-2010, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickp51chevy

Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic.

Nope, doesn't effect it. Thanks!!

SUBURBANlinoleum · 03-20-2010, 01:03 PM

Wow - nice...nice Suburban you found, to begin with!

BBEEP · 03-20-2010, 02:50 PM

The body fits!!! The 52 rear inner fender is acutally sitting on top of the Envoy inner fender. The front wheel in the pic looks like it sticks out, but that is just the pic. Couldn't get a pic with the front fender on it yet.

BBEEP · 03-20-2010, 02:59 PM

The body already sits an 1 3/4 inches lower, measured from the middle of the top of the door opening, than my 48 GMC Panel. Still has all stock 2002 Envoy suspension. Pic taken at a little bit of an angle. The rear wheel is a 17, and centers up nicely. The front fenders, doors, & hood are still wating for the 'dip'.

sgtusmc · 03-20-2010, 03:40 PM

You just changed up the game for burb builders.

NONHOG · 03-20-2010, 04:05 PM

Glad to see it coming along as planned ! only wish your pictures would increase in size.

ksbrktracer · 03-20-2010, 05:00 PM

very neat looking project.....love outside the box thinking.....subscribing...

MrTucker · 03-20-2010, 07:02 PM

Any smaller pics?

T Hilde · 03-20-2010, 09:05 PM

That is looking awesome!

ghettoluxury · 03-21-2010, 08:02 AM

That is killer, I love it!

BBEEP · 03-21-2010, 08:36 PM

Test fitting the front fenders. The drivers side wheel is set back some because the Envoy frame was bent in the accident. Once the body is where we want it, I will take it to get the frame straightened. This thing sits LOW, so therein lies a problem. The bottom of the front fender is only about 7 inches off the ground. The track on the Envoy is wider than the AD, and the fenders sit so low that I can't turn the wheels side to side. We will raise the cowl about an inch, which in turn will raise the fenders--just not enough.
Do I:
1) section the original fenders & make them a couple of inches wider to accomodate the wheels turn radius.
2) find some larger 'truck' fenders and adapt them.
3) change the radius of the wheel opening altogether.
I do plan to widen the rear fenders about 2 inches to allow for a bigger tire. I want to delete the 'welting' and weld the fenders on. Later I may decide to even bring the running boards out slightly.
And what do you think of where the rear wheel fits in the opening? Also, the 17's are about the smallest diameter I can go because of the brakes. Looking at the back, I can probably go with a 20x10 wheel after the widening--and you won't see the tire above the top of the rim.

**mr48chev** · 03-21-2010, 08:53 PM

I've got a set of big truck fenders that are about in the same condition as yours that might work better without cutting up those fenders.
You might think about welding a flare on the front fenders while raising the opening to give a bit more clearance and not have to widen the fenders.

03-12-2010, 03:09 PM	#126
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Ya know; when ever I see this thread come up in my subscriptions I get real excited to see what happens When I scroll through to the last thread and see that people are just commenting on your awesomeness and there are no picture updates I go into a slight depression. Then I go to the next thread and I'm over it. Keep the updates coming! __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350 Last edited by nickp51chevy; 03-12-2010 at 03:17 PM.

03-12-2010, 03:16 PM	#127
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build DIP SHOP PICS! Should have it back next Friday. Wow, thats a lot of parts on the trailer. No front clip or front doors! Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-12-2010, 03:20 PM	#128
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Yeesssss! I need to get one of those forklift cab lift dealy thingys. __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350

03-12-2010, 03:33 PM	#129
sparkydog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fallbrook, CA Posts: 910	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Hi BBeep. Just discovered your build thread. I guess Oregon boys have extra creativity... I live in West Linn. I'm transplanting some 67 & 68 International Harvester body parts onto the donor chassis/body of a 97 GMC Z71 Extd Cab. And how weird that I am at almost exactly the same stage - getting ready to graft the firewall from the 97GMC onto the cab of the 68 IH. Dealing with the same thoughts you are - how to blend the old cowl air intake - what to do about wiper motor and wiper post mounts. We probably have similar goals - I want the modern technology but under some older skin. I hope to be cutting my firewalls in about 2 weeks. Still have a few things to strip off the Z71 before the sawzall fires up. Here's a couple of pics. Sorry for the hijack - can't wait to follow your progress. Great project! Attached Images __________________ Balls and a Sawzall Project Halfbreed Porsche 944 L67V6 CARB Legal & Other Stuff

03-12-2010, 03:36 PM	#130
jbjburbs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Recovery, OH Posts: 327	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build using a frame off a truck vs. a unibody truck seems to be a lot different...I haven't priced out wrecked cars lately to know that cost. I guess I was thinking about maintenance parts being more expensive and limited over the aftermarket world for the mustang II, 9in rears, etc. If you can do it cheaper that's cool, my preference to build a frame and drop the body on, but i'm not known for being the smartest.. again not ripping just curious.. good luck. __________________ John J Bodied 1994 Suburban on custom frame - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=672297 Dad's 1948 Suburban - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=563150 Bagged 1995 Suburban - SOLD Bodied 1995 Tahoe -SOLD

03-12-2010, 03:50 PM	#132
jbjburbs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Recovery, OH Posts: 327	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Proof again that skimming and assuming don't make for good threads comments.. thanks for clearing it up. __________________ John J Bodied 1994 Suburban on custom frame - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=672297 Dad's 1948 Suburban - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=563150 Bagged 1995 Suburban - SOLD Bodied 1995 Tahoe -SOLD

03-12-2010, 04:03 PM	#133
NONHOG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marana, Arizona Posts: 3,446	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build BBEEP I know if I were you I'd be all excited to see that fresh from the stripper. I'm looking forward to pics ! sparkydog, you should add a thread on Alternate tinkerings thats a cool build ! __________________ "I feel the need for speed!"... as soon as I am done with my nap.

03-17-2010, 06:26 PM	#136
Fat Mike Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 540	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build WOW! That's is definetly the way to go if you have the money. Very nice and keep the pictures coming. __________________ FAT MIKE My 59 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=400201 My 47 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386848

03-17-2010, 08:00 PM	#137
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build About $1800 for all the sheet metal. Compare that to a month hard labor at $10 an hour! __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-17-2010, 08:13 PM	#138
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic. __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350

03-20-2010, 01:03 PM	#140
SUBURBANlinoleum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las vegas, NV Posts: 25	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Wow - nice...nice Suburban you found, to begin with!

03-20-2010, 02:50 PM	#141
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build The body fits!!! The 52 rear inner fender is acutally sitting on top of the Envoy inner fender. The front wheel in the pic looks like it sticks out, but that is just the pic. Couldn't get a pic with the front fender on it yet. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck** Last edited by BBEEP; 03-20-2010 at 03:01 PM. Reason: clarification

03-20-2010, 02:59 PM	#142
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build The body already sits an 1 3/4 inches lower, measured from the middle of the top of the door opening, than my 48 GMC Panel. Still has all stock 2002 Envoy suspension. Pic taken at a little bit of an angle. The rear wheel is a 17, and centers up nicely. The front fenders, doors, & hood are still wating for the 'dip'. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-20-2010, 03:40 PM	#143
sgtusmc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 958	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build You just changed up the game for burb builders. __________________ My build, 53 GMC / S10 swap http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=305723 My build, 59 Chevy / 88 fullsize swap http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...hlight=sgtusmc U.S. Marines - Certified Counselors to the 72 Virgins Dating Club.

03-20-2010, 04:05 PM	#144
NONHOG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marana, Arizona Posts: 3,446	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Glad to see it coming along as planned ! only wish your pictures would increase in size. __________________ "I feel the need for speed!"... as soon as I am done with my nap.



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03-20-2010, 05:00 PM	#145
ksbrktracer TNT-MOTORSPORTS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TULSA OKLAHOMA Posts: 2,692	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build very neat looking project.....love outside the box thinking.....subscribing...

03-20-2010, 07:02 PM	#146
MrTucker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 455	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Any smaller pics? __________________ 1953 GMC 1/2 ton long bed Original 228 I6 with a Hydramatic Auto Tranny Project Pack Rat - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=3374649

03-20-2010, 09:05 PM	#147
T Hilde Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Faribault, MN Posts: 385	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build That is looking awesome!

03-21-2010, 08:02 AM	#148
ghettoluxury Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waynesfield Ohio Posts: 1,991	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build That is killer, I love it! __________________ 1949 Five Window, 1973 Step Side, 2000 Z71

03-21-2010, 08:36 PM	#149
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Test fitting the front fenders. The drivers side wheel is set back some because the Envoy frame was bent in the accident. Once the body is where we want it, I will take it to get the frame straightened. This thing sits LOW, so therein lies a problem. The bottom of the front fender is only about 7 inches off the ground. The track on the Envoy is wider than the AD, and the fenders sit so low that I can't turn the wheels side to side. We will raise the cowl about an inch, which in turn will raise the fenders--just not enough. Do I: 1) section the original fenders & make them a couple of inches wider to accomodate the wheels turn radius. 2) find some larger 'truck' fenders and adapt them. 3) change the radius of the wheel opening altogether. I do plan to widen the rear fenders about 2 inches to allow for a bigger tire. I want to delete the 'welting' and weld the fenders on. Later I may decide to even bring the running boards out slightly. And what do you think of where the rear wheel fits in the opening? Also, the 17's are about the smallest diameter I can go because of the brakes. Looking at the back, I can probably go with a 20x10 wheel after the widening--and you won't see the tire above the top of the rim. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-21-2010, 08:53 PM	#150
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,648	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build I've got a set of big truck fenders that are about in the same condition as yours that might work better without cutting up those fenders. You might think about welding a flare on the front fenders while raising the opening to give a bit more clearance and not have to widen the fenders. Last edited by mr48chev; 03-21-2010 at 09:06 PM.

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