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Fat Mike · 03-17-2010, 06:26 PM

WOW! That's is definetly the way to go if you have the money. Very nice and keep the pictures coming.

BBEEP · 03-17-2010, 08:00 PM

About $1800 for all the sheet metal. Compare that to a month hard labor at $10 an hour!

nickp51chevy · 03-17-2010, 08:13 PM

Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic.

BBEEP · 03-17-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nickp51chevy

Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic.

Nope, doesn't effect it. Thanks!!

SUBURBANlinoleum · 03-20-2010, 01:03 PM

Wow - nice...nice Suburban you found, to begin with!

BBEEP · 03-20-2010, 02:50 PM

The body fits!!! The 52 rear inner fender is acutally sitting on top of the Envoy inner fender. The front wheel in the pic looks like it sticks out, but that is just the pic. Couldn't get a pic with the front fender on it yet.

BBEEP · 03-20-2010, 02:59 PM

The body already sits an 1 3/4 inches lower, measured from the middle of the top of the door opening, than my 48 GMC Panel. Still has all stock 2002 Envoy suspension. Pic taken at a little bit of an angle. The rear wheel is a 17, and centers up nicely. The front fenders, doors, & hood are still wating for the 'dip'.

MrTucker · 03-20-2010, 07:02 PM

Any smaller pics?

T Hilde · 03-20-2010, 09:05 PM

That is looking awesome!

ghettoluxury · 03-21-2010, 08:02 AM

That is killer, I love it!

BBEEP · 03-21-2010, 08:36 PM

Test fitting the front fenders. The drivers side wheel is set back some because the Envoy frame was bent in the accident. Once the body is where we want it, I will take it to get the frame straightened. This thing sits LOW, so therein lies a problem. The bottom of the front fender is only about 7 inches off the ground. The track on the Envoy is wider than the AD, and the fenders sit so low that I can't turn the wheels side to side. We will raise the cowl about an inch, which in turn will raise the fenders--just not enough.
Do I:
1) section the original fenders & make them a couple of inches wider to accomodate the wheels turn radius.
2) find some larger 'truck' fenders and adapt them.
3) change the radius of the wheel opening altogether.
I do plan to widen the rear fenders about 2 inches to allow for a bigger tire. I want to delete the 'welting' and weld the fenders on. Later I may decide to even bring the running boards out slightly.
And what do you think of where the rear wheel fits in the opening? Also, the 17's are about the smallest diameter I can go because of the brakes. Looking at the back, I can probably go with a 20x10 wheel after the widening--and you won't see the tire above the top of the rim.

BBEEP · 03-23-2010, 02:08 PM

JUST KIDDING! Not gonna split it down the middle. The front fenders will be widened 2 inches, the back 1-2. Hope to run 18x7's and 20x10's.

NONHOG · 03-23-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BBEEP

JUST KIDDING! Not gonna split it down the middle. The front fenders will be widened 2 inches, the back 1-2. Hope to run 18x7's and 20x10's.

We are counting on lots of pics as you go !

nickp51chevy · 03-23-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NONHOG

We are counting on lots of pics as you go !

Ya!

ChuckDriver · 03-23-2010, 08:14 PM

Great build. I remember seeing someone on here working on a 60's GMC that spliced the large truck fender to the stock fender to get the larger radius. Might be something the consider. Keeps the pics coming!!

**mr48chev** · 03-21-2010, 08:53 PM

I've got a set of big truck fenders that are about in the same condition as yours that might work better without cutting up those fenders.
You might think about welding a flare on the front fenders while raising the opening to give a bit more clearance and not have to widen the fenders.

BBEEP · 03-21-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

I've got a set of big truck fenders that are about in the same condition as yours that might work better without cutting up those fenders.

I'm going to drive my bus over this week and see if we can make the larger fenders work (I won't rob those, though) Thanks, I'll let you know if I need some truck fenders.

jbjburbs · 03-21-2010, 10:06 PM

if you make everything 2 inches wider (front, rear and boards) i doubt many people would even notice. well, other than 100s reading this thread. i think the uniformity would make the mod very subtle on the burb...of course the widening piece is easier said than done.. looks good so far!

nickp51chevy · 03-22-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jbjburbs

if you make everything 2 inches wider (front, rear and boards) i doubt many people would even notice. well, other than 100s reading this thread. i think the uniformity would make the mod very subtle on the burb...of course the widening piece is easier said than done.. looks good so far!

I totally agree with jbjburbs. I think you should widen the front fenders. I think that very few will notice it, and I also think that it would look cool.

Is there a way to narrow the front width? Possibly changing out the A-arms? It would appear to me that different back spacing on the wheels isn't an option.

Good luck with what ever you chose.

+ I do like how the wheel looks in the fender for the back. I don't think that I would change it.

narx66gmc · 03-21-2010, 11:28 PM

wow, this is an awesome build. good work and keep it up.

OrrieG · 03-22-2010, 12:23 AM

I think the rear wheels need to move a back in the wheel opening. Widening the rears will look ok. I'd try the larger big truck front fenders before widening the regular truck ones. Make a decision on the running boards after the fenders are resolved.

It's looking great, I sure hope I can get down there in June to see it in person.

BBEEP · 03-22-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OrrieG

I think the rear wheels need to move a back in the wheel opening. Widening the rears will look ok. I'd try the larger big truck front fenders before widening the regular truck ones. Make a decision on the running boards after the fenders are resolved.

It's looking great, I sure hope I can get down there in June to see it in person.

OrrieG, we will probably move the wheel opening in the back slightly as we widen. The wider truck front fenders should be inexpensive, usually a whole truck for a couple hundred. The running boards will definitely wait. Slightly wider should make it look a little lower.
Do you think anyone really reads these boards?, naaaaa . . .

hgs_notes · 03-22-2010, 07:59 AM

An idea from a different perspective, how about a body lift? It's a lot less work than sectioning panels and might solve a couple problems. Combinr that with a change in wheel back spacing and you might be close to where you want it.

ghettoluxury · 03-22-2010, 08:33 AM

After the cowl is raised a set of low pro's on 17's should give you the clearence. Taking away half of your side wall will do wonders.

Bigblue29 · 03-22-2010, 10:35 AM

Any direction you take it will be cool. I do like the idea of a wide bodied burb though...

03-17-2010, 06:26 PM	#1
Fat Mike Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 540	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build WOW! That's is definetly the way to go if you have the money. Very nice and keep the pictures coming. __________________ FAT MIKE My 59 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=400201 My 47 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386848

03-17-2010, 08:00 PM	#2
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build About $1800 for all the sheet metal. Compare that to a month hard labor at $10 an hour! __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-17-2010, 08:13 PM	#3
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Awesome! Did the dip take any of the led out? It's kinda hard to see from the small pic. __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350

03-20-2010, 01:03 PM	#5
SUBURBANlinoleum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las vegas, NV Posts: 25	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Wow - nice...nice Suburban you found, to begin with!

03-20-2010, 02:50 PM	#6
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build The body fits!!! The 52 rear inner fender is acutally sitting on top of the Envoy inner fender. The front wheel in the pic looks like it sticks out, but that is just the pic. Couldn't get a pic with the front fender on it yet. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck** Last edited by BBEEP; 03-20-2010 at 03:01 PM. Reason: clarification

03-20-2010, 02:59 PM	#7
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build The body already sits an 1 3/4 inches lower, measured from the middle of the top of the door opening, than my 48 GMC Panel. Still has all stock 2002 Envoy suspension. Pic taken at a little bit of an angle. The rear wheel is a 17, and centers up nicely. The front fenders, doors, & hood are still wating for the 'dip'. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-20-2010, 07:02 PM	#8
MrTucker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 455	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Any smaller pics? __________________ 1953 GMC 1/2 ton long bed Original 228 I6 with a Hydramatic Auto Tranny Project Pack Rat - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=3374649

03-20-2010, 09:05 PM	#9
T Hilde Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Faribault, MN Posts: 385	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build That is looking awesome!

03-21-2010, 08:02 AM	#10
ghettoluxury Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waynesfield Ohio Posts: 1,991	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build That is killer, I love it! __________________ 1949 Five Window, 1973 Step Side, 2000 Z71

03-21-2010, 08:36 PM	#11
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Test fitting the front fenders. The drivers side wheel is set back some because the Envoy frame was bent in the accident. Once the body is where we want it, I will take it to get the frame straightened. This thing sits LOW, so therein lies a problem. The bottom of the front fender is only about 7 inches off the ground. The track on the Envoy is wider than the AD, and the fenders sit so low that I can't turn the wheels side to side. We will raise the cowl about an inch, which in turn will raise the fenders--just not enough. Do I: 1) section the original fenders & make them a couple of inches wider to accomodate the wheels turn radius. 2) find some larger 'truck' fenders and adapt them. 3) change the radius of the wheel opening altogether. I do plan to widen the rear fenders about 2 inches to allow for a bigger tire. I want to delete the 'welting' and weld the fenders on. Later I may decide to even bring the running boards out slightly. And what do you think of where the rear wheel fits in the opening? Also, the 17's are about the smallest diameter I can go because of the brakes. Looking at the back, I can probably go with a 20x10 wheel after the widening--and you won't see the tire above the top of the rim. Attached Images __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-23-2010, 02:08 PM	#12
BBEEP Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUGENE, OREGON Posts: 504	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build JUST KIDDING! Not gonna split it down the middle. The front fenders will be widened 2 inches, the back 1-2. Hope to run 18x7's and 20x10's. __________________ 48 GMC Panel Sold 12-14-15 52 White/Chevrolet School Bus 52 GMC Burb/Envoy Meld 61 Impala Wagon SOLD BARRETT JACKSON SCOTTSDALE 1-18-13 67 c/10 SOLD 2012 71 SS454 77 c/20 Sold 11-11-15 08 TBSS The Wife's car!! 50 GMC School Bus SOLD 11-7-10 29 FD Delivery (Chevy powered) SOLD 11-4-11 53 GMC 630 Firetruck/Ramp Truck**

03-23-2010, 08:14 PM	#15
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,629	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build Great build. I remember seeing someone on here working on a 60's GMC that spliced the large truck fender to the stock fender to get the larger radius. Might be something the consider. Keeps the pics coming!! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

03-21-2010, 08:53 PM	#16
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,639	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build I've got a set of big truck fenders that are about in the same condition as yours that might work better without cutting up those fenders. You might think about welding a flare on the front fenders while raising the opening to give a bit more clearance and not have to widen the fenders. Last edited by mr48chev; 03-21-2010 at 09:06 PM.

03-21-2010, 10:06 PM	#18
jbjburbs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Recovery, OH Posts: 327	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build if you make everything 2 inches wider (front, rear and boards) i doubt many people would even notice. well, other than 100s reading this thread. i think the uniformity would make the mod very subtle on the burb...of course the widening piece is easier said than done.. looks good so far! __________________ John J Bodied 1994 Suburban on custom frame - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=672297 Dad's 1948 Suburban - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=563150 Bagged 1995 Suburban - SOLD Bodied 1995 Tahoe -SOLD

03-21-2010, 11:28 PM	#20
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03-22-2010, 12:23 AM	#21
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build I think the rear wheels need to move a back in the wheel opening. Widening the rears will look ok. I'd try the larger big truck front fenders before widening the regular truck ones. Make a decision on the running boards after the fenders are resolved. It's looking great, I sure hope I can get down there in June to see it in person. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

03-22-2010, 07:59 AM	#23
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03-22-2010, 08:33 AM	#24
ghettoluxury Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waynesfield Ohio Posts: 1,991	Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build After the cowl is raised a set of low pro's on 17's should give you the clearence. Taking away half of your side wall will do wonders. __________________ 1949 Five Window, 1973 Step Side, 2000 Z71

03-22-2010, 10:35 AM	#25
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