Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4..

[azle]

Interesting build, Sir you have SKILLS!

Azle

[mongocanfly]

thanks azle!!

[mongocanfly]

got my "new to the old truck" cab corner welded in today....it sunk in a little from welding but it couldn't be avoided cause I can't get to the back side...has one or two little high spots but I'm not doing anymore to it til i get it sandblasted and then see what I got....I think a little filler will hide it pretty good.....

[sparkydog]

Looking great!

[mongocanfly]

thanks sparkyd!!!

[mongocanfly]

rant for today......I'm pissed
well....I got some unsettling news today.....most all the work I've done so far is for naught....I had finished up most of my bodywork after sandblasting and epoxy primer so today since we had some good weather with no rain I thought I'd go ahead and spray the highbuild primer...so off to the parts store I went...without a (real) auto paint store nearby that's about all we got. ...told the counter guy I needed a gal of high build primer...off to the back he goes and comes back and sets it on the counter....I look at it and its the same primer I've been spraying ...I tell him no I wanted high build...he says that is high build...I look at him funny and said it better not be..well it is..so i told him when I bought that primer I told them I wanted epoxy primer for dtm...and that primer is what they gave me...I argued with them then that it didn't say epoxy on it...we went round and round about it...they convinced me that's what I needed...remember ,, I'm not a painter and am fairly new to all this proper way of painting...so on this truck I was trying to do everything right...well now I've got sandblasted metal with highbuild primer directly on bare metal......
so by now im getting mad...the counter guy calls a body shop guy he knows and I talked to him...he says the paint will never stick..in about 3 yrs he says it'll start falling off...only thing I can do is go back to bare metal...argghhhhhh!!!!....there's 4 months and over $1k throwed up a wild hogs butt....needless to say I'm pissed...all the bodywork that was done , the lizardskin I sprayed,.primer ...everything....has come off..............did I mention I'm pissed?........I left the store VERY unhappy...they did say they'd cut me a break on my future supplies....lot of good that does now.....so yeah...its been a bad day....rant over...

[Clyde65]

Holy crap! You sir are a saint imo, I would have wrapped my xxl hands around someone’s neck and squeezed until I could squeeze no more!

[Advanced Design]

Sorry to hear that Greg. I don’t know paint, so I am guessing there is no alternative to stripping it off and starting over?

[mongocanfly]

I felt that way clyde....and my hands are XXXXXL ..(yeah ive got huge hands..i know) good thing I had a good upbringing...I've got to remember this whole project is for my parents..was trying to make they're anniversary this year but there's no way I can make that date now....

yeah Doug. ..although I've painted stuff before I dont know paint either... (obviously)...according to the bodyshop guy that's all I can do...go back to bare metal...or watch paint start falling off in 3yrs or so

[BIGglaSS]

Sorry to hear. I've been following this build, and you're doing good work. Unfortunately, IMO, paint is one of those things you shouldn't buy from an auto parts store. Secondly, you can't take their word for the products you use. You also need to read the tech sheets (P-sheets) and follow them exactly. The P sheets would tell you whether it can be applied DTM or not. In auto paint, always read the instructions, if they don't supply tech sheets, it's probably not a product you want to use.. A great source for mail order epoxy, Southern Polyeurethanes (SPI). Best price, service, and support. Be warned, the key to successful epoxy is clean metal, and no rust converters or acids.

[mongocanfly]

thanks BIG....I should have known better...I knew it didn't say anything about epoxy on the can and that's what I argued with them about from the start...but the guy I was dealing with has worked in the parts store for over 35yrs so I figured he knew more than I did....as far as directions go I do read those and follow them to a t....I've painted stuff before but I've never taken one to bare metal and I've never used epoxy or high build primer before or I might have known something wasn't right......live and learn I guess....1 step forward and 10 steps back...
but there wernt any tech sheets....
the body shop guy said the same thing....that's what you get for buying paint at a parts store...

[Nut Case]

Mongo

That stinks at so many levels, and what's worse those dudes at the parts store won't lose any sleep over this. Very few folks own the fact that they did not do you right.

You have the right to get bent, I feel your pain. I to have had similar experiences so dude, put up a sheet of old used OSB board, paint a target on it, buy a dozen eggs........

Great what you're doing for your dad.

Strong work

Nut Case

[mongocanfly]

thanks nut......

[Scott2]

Such a bummer! You’re doing some really nice work and a setback like this is so aggravating. Sadly, very few of the guys in the local parts stores know what they are talking about. Worse, they feel the need to make up answers and seem to think it doesn’t matter if they’re close. They will happily sell you the wrong parts or supplies time after time and as inept as many are with auto parts I can only imagine they are far worse with paint.

I think you said there is no auto body paint supplier near you? How about a friendly auto body repair shop? They might be willing to get you some materials? I used to get some materials from a local auto body repair guy in my town which was pretty small at that time. Now the town grew up and he sold out and I make the hour and an half round trip to the nearest paint supply shop. They’re a pleasure to deal with because they know what they’re talking about.

Deep breaths, a few calming thoughts (like kicking that sales guys ass...) and you’ll get the truck looking even better! At least you didn’t have color on it!

[sparkydog]

Mongo sorry to read about your setback. Is there any way to turn the lemons into lemonade? Like if you’re going to end up stripping the primer off, is there something else you can do to the truck while it’s back at that stage?

[mongocanfly]

thanks sparky...up to this point I was satisfied with the way everything had gone....I can't really think of anything I'd change or do different....well except for buying paint at a parts store....

[mongocanfly]

well ,after the great primer setback of 2018, I finally got some of my body parts back to the blasters, so I'm waiting on that so I can put the "correct" primer on them....
in the meantime I grabbed a set of tires for Columbus. .bfgs 255/85-16..roughly 10.5x33....
tall and skinny......

[mongocanfly]

well its time for a small update....got most all the body work done on the front fenders, hood, grill.....ready for high build....got the bed tailgate and rear fenders back to the blaster today...they'll be getting epoxy tomorrow. ....
the ol brown truck been on a regular schedule as of late....got the nv4500 last thursday,,, along with all the connect point A to point B goodies from AA......as well as the new wheels from us wheel... (black stock rims).....they only come in black...I was wanting white. ...will have to see if the black grows on me or not


Im adding this for future reference...
The vss pigtail num is (acdelco pt2721)
The reverse switch pigtail num is (acdelco pt107
Nv4500 gear oil is...(AC-Delco 10-4119 )

[mongocanfly]

got the bed, tailgate, and fender back today and got it all in epoxy...
also gave me a good excuse to try out the new rotisserie. ....
last week during a stretch of rainy days I decided I'd just build me a rotisserie....seems to work really well...will be a big help when I get the cab on it......

[BlueJeep]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

well its time for a small update....got most all the body work done on the front fenders, hood, grill.....ready for high build....got the bed tailgate and rear fenders back to the blaster today...they'll be getting epoxy tomorrow. ....
the ol brown truck been on a regular schedule as of late....got the nv4500 last thursday,,, along with all the connect point A to point B goodies from AA......as well as the new wheels from us mag.... (black stock rims).....they only come in black...I was wanting white. ...will have to see if the black grows on me or not

Those tires and wheels are going to look great on the old binder! I think black was the original color IH used on the wheels.

[mongocanfly]

thanks blue....the original color for the wheels was white on one truck and red on the other...
I read somewhere that the rims were painted the predominant color on the truck...
I'm still torn over leaving em black. .or pc em white and ad hubcaps...

[low'n slow]

Better to find out now than in 3 years.

[mongocanfly]

yeah...no kidding.....I would really have been pissed then...

[grumpyolddog]

If it is DTM high build primer you would be good to go axalta aka dupont has a good one nason select prime 421-10. It is a urethane primer.

[mongocanfly]

yeah..that's the problem..its not dtm....