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1985-GMC · 11-06-2010, 10:44 PM

Are you still planning on getting a D60 for the front?

RockTonka · 11-07-2010, 12:27 AM

Already got it. Picked up a dually D60 about a month and a half ago, got it tore down and am still in the process of cleaning and rebuilding it.
It's pretty rough but certainly salvageable, gonna need calipers, seals, and inner axles on both sides (inner seals wore pretty deep grooves), but the R&P and bearings look good

.
Thought we'd need new rotors, but they cleaned up at 1.35".

RockTonka · 11-07-2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

That should be a real nice setup for the truck.

We think so...it can't come quick enough though.

As much as we enjoy putting along with the original, now smoky, 235 (gallon of oil to every tank of gas)...it was wheezing pretty hard with this relatively light load!

1985-GMC · 11-07-2010, 01:01 AM

Sweet!

RockTonka · 11-16-2010, 12:08 AM

Started cleaning, painting, and gathering parts for, the front D60.

vk_chevy · 11-16-2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockTonka

Started cleaning, painting, and gathering parts for, the front D60.

that is a fine looking pile of parts you got there

jbclassix · 11-16-2010, 02:14 AM

very nice

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-16-2010, 05:56 PM

Very nice! This will be a killer rig! Now, I have a couple questions for you.

Did you build the diff covers?
What kind of paint did you use on the front axle? I've been using Krylon lately, and for the money it sucks. I switched over to VHT and it seems to be a better product for spray bomb.

1985-GMC · 11-16-2010, 09:57 PM

Looks great! Id also like to know what kind of paint you used. Ive had good luck with rustoleum gloss black out of the can(gallon).

RockTonka · 11-17-2010, 12:42 AM

Thanks, it's starting to come together. I almost don't want to take it down for the conversion...been enjoying it quite a bit using it like it is, but it's about that time. We're really hoping that we can get it in and out this winter and be running again by early spring.

I've had good luck with Rustoleum gloss black enamel (rattle can) and tend to use that most of the time.

Diff covers and spring plates were sourced from RuffStuff...lots of good parts there.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php

BlueJeep · 11-17-2010, 08:53 PM

Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings.

LONGSWHEEL · 11-19-2010, 03:05 PM

Your build is looking awesome. I have a 70 ford with a flat bed that i am fixing to start working on. I love the loke of the flat bed trucks.

RockTonka · 11-28-2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueJeep

Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings.

King pins feel smooth and tight, I'm kinda waiting to see if I'm going to go high steer on pass side with a 2wd box and cross over, or keep something close to the stock configuration. I'm leaning toward crossover and will check them out then.

RockTonka · 11-28-2010, 01:52 AM

Got a alt. mount built in between t-day duties...

JohnC · 11-29-2010, 10:10 AM

Wow that bracket looks awesome!

Woodbutcher · 11-30-2010, 01:19 AM

That's a killer alternator mount, Rock. One more idea discovered on the pages of this forum. It's guys like you who make the rest of our daily driver projects become become bigger and more involved than we originally intended.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-30-2010, 12:40 PM

Very nice fab work once again!

RockTonka · 12-04-2010, 11:59 PM

Thanks for the remarks, we really appreciate it!

Been working on the power steering set-up. Originally bought a saginaw pump/res, but couldn't fit it in tight to the block because of the short water pump. Chased down a type 2 pump/pulley/remote res from PSC...lots of room to put it where I wanted.

RockTonka · 12-15-2010, 12:49 AM

We've been struggling with which seat we would use.
The original bench had a decent back, but rotted out bottom with missing springs/padding. We were looking at least $500 to get the parts we needed and have the stock bench reupholstered/rebuilt.
We got a set of pull out 2006 chevy truck buckets (with the seat belts in the back) to try...didn't like how they fit in the cab, I wanted more room. They were in perfect condition for $600 w/ center console (no way that was fitting)...so passed on those.
Looked at a mid 80's chevy bench, but wasn't really feeling it. Thought about the Astro van seats, but finding a take out seat in decent condition with a acceptable color wasn't likely...didn't want to reupholster a donor bench to get what I wanted.
So, took some measurements and talked to Twisted Stitch about a extended/expanded version of their Cruiser seat...a low side suspension seat that we liked in our Rhino. A couple weeks later, for about the same $ as reupholstering a bench of some sort, and we have this.
The back looks a bit tall, but we will see how it falls into place.

Kim57 · 12-15-2010, 01:14 AM

Nice looking seat.
Kim

JohnC · 12-15-2010, 10:28 AM

Looks good man. Seats are sometimes a hard decision to make. There are so many factors to conisder, from color, style, size.

I think it will look good in the truck.

abebummy26 · 12-15-2010, 12:30 PM

Is that a tweed insert in the center?

RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

I think it will look good in the truck.

yep, I hope so...if not, I'll have a really nice garage bench

RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abebummy26

Is that a tweed insert in the center?

Yes...

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-16-2010, 04:28 PM

As usual, very nice!

11-06-2010, 10:44 PM	#126
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Are you still planning on getting a D60 for the front? __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

11-07-2010, 12:27 AM	#127
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Already got it. Picked up a dually D60 about a month and a half ago, got it tore down and am still in the process of cleaning and rebuilding it. It's pretty rough but certainly salvageable, gonna need calipers, seals, and inner axles on both sides (inner seals wore pretty deep grooves), but the R&P and bearings look good. Thought we'd need new rotors, but they cleaned up at 1.35". Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

11-07-2010, 01:01 AM	#129
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Sweet! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

11-16-2010, 12:08 AM	#130
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Started cleaning, painting, and gathering parts for, the front D60. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

11-16-2010, 02:14 AM	#132
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project very nice __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

11-16-2010, 05:56 PM	#133
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very nice! This will be a killer rig! Now, I have a couple questions for you. Did you build the diff covers? What kind of paint did you use on the front axle? I've been using Krylon lately, and for the money it sucks. I switched over to VHT and it seems to be a better product for spray bomb. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-16-2010, 09:57 PM	#134
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks great! Id also like to know what kind of paint you used. Ive had good luck with rustoleum gloss black out of the can(gallon). __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress) Last edited by 1985-GMC; 11-17-2010 at 12:58 AM.

11-17-2010, 12:42 AM	#135
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks, it's starting to come together. I almost don't want to take it down for the conversion...been enjoying it quite a bit using it like it is, but it's about that time. We're really hoping that we can get it in and out this winter and be running again by early spring. I've had good luck with Rustoleum gloss black enamel (rattle can) and tend to use that most of the time. Diff covers and spring plates were sourced from RuffStuff...lots of good parts there. http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

11-17-2010, 08:53 PM	#136
BlueJeep Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waukee, Iowa Posts: 1,608	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings. __________________ build threads: 86 Suburban 88 Jeep 6.0 swap 49 Chevy truck 54 Chevy wagon 86 Suburban lowered 4/6 54 Chevy wagon 49 Chevy/s10 mix 88 Jeep Wrangler rockcrawler

11-19-2010, 03:05 PM	#137
LONGSWHEEL Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JACKSONVILLE, FL. Posts: 23	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Your build is looking awesome. I have a 70 ford with a flat bed that i am fixing to start working on. I love the loke of the flat bed trucks.

11-28-2010, 01:52 AM	#139
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Got a alt. mount built in between t-day duties... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

11-29-2010, 10:10 AM	#140
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Wow that bracket looks awesome!

11-30-2010, 01:19 AM	#141
Woodbutcher Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prince George, BC, CAN Posts: 60	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That's a killer alternator mount, Rock. One more idea discovered on the pages of this forum. It's guys like you who make the rest of our daily driver projects become become bigger and more involved than we originally intended. __________________ If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy... Red Green Keep your stick on the ice, Woodbutcher

11-30-2010, 12:40 PM	#142
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very nice fab work once again! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-04-2010, 11:59 PM	#143
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for the remarks, we really appreciate it! Been working on the power steering set-up. Originally bought a saginaw pump/res, but couldn't fit it in tight to the block because of the short water pump. Chased down a type 2 pump/pulley/remote res from PSC...lots of room to put it where I wanted. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread



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12-15-2010, 12:49 AM	#144
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We've been struggling with which seat we would use. The original bench had a decent back, but rotted out bottom with missing springs/padding. We were looking at least $500 to get the parts we needed and have the stock bench reupholstered/rebuilt. We got a set of pull out 2006 chevy truck buckets (with the seat belts in the back) to try...didn't like how they fit in the cab, I wanted more room. They were in perfect condition for $600 w/ center console (no way that was fitting)...so passed on those. Looked at a mid 80's chevy bench, but wasn't really feeling it. Thought about the Astro van seats, but finding a take out seat in decent condition with a acceptable color wasn't likely...didn't want to reupholster a donor bench to get what I wanted. So, took some measurements and talked to Twisted Stitch about a extended/expanded version of their Cruiser seat...a low side suspension seat that we liked in our Rhino. A couple weeks later, for about the same $ as reupholstering a bench of some sort, and we have this. The back looks a bit tall, but we will see how it falls into place. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread Last edited by RockTonka; 12-15-2010 at 12:54 AM.

12-15-2010, 01:14 AM	#145
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nice looking seat. Kim

12-15-2010, 10:28 AM	#146
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks good man. Seats are sometimes a hard decision to make. There are so many factors to conisder, from color, style, size. I think it will look good in the truck.

12-15-2010, 12:30 PM	#147
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12-16-2010, 04:28 PM	#150
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project As usual, very nice! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

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