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Walts_restoration · 03-29-2011, 03:14 PM

excluding the fenders i like it....

Mr Pops · 03-29-2011, 03:35 PM

I bet the pot holes felt real nice with those front leaf packs!

Redcap · 03-29-2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirdstreettito

Here is a Howe Coleman Conversion

That is an awesome looking truck!

**special-K** · 03-30-2011, 06:58 PM

Not sure what's up under these,but they're big GMCs:

**special-K** · 03-30-2011, 07:01 PM

Here are some cool old ones:

thirdstreettito · 03-30-2011, 11:15 PM

Dont you just love Hanks Truck Pictures Tim?

**special-K** · 03-31-2011, 06:51 AM

Yes. I end up there searching pictures even when I don't go straight there. Half the time I don't know I'm there until I see the name at the bottom.

i don't think these have been shown yet:

**special-K** · 03-31-2011, 08:59 AM

Aw heck,here's another handful:

**special-K** · 04-02-2011, 06:35 PM

Huh?

mal68ibu · 04-02-2011, 07:40 PM

Red 58-59 gmc dually. SICK!!!! I would love that with a cummins and a 5 speed.

feller · 04-04-2011, 01:16 PM

lol that green and white gmc stepper has got some pizza cutters on it!!!

neto · 04-18-2011, 06:36 PM

Glad I came across this thread. Would the BOM number have been changed if a NAPCO conversion was done on a 63 GMC suburban? Here's what it looks like.

justcuz · 04-20-2011, 02:44 PM

I don't see why unless it was a 3/4 ton. All Suburbans that I have seen were 1/2 tons with a short wheelbase. They would have had closed knuckle Dana 44 front axles with drum brakes and either a 12 bolt or a GM corporate HO 35 drop out rear axle if it was a Chevy and a Dana 44 rear axle if it was a GMC.

**special-K** · 04-22-2011, 07:12 AM

Are you asking if the number would have been changed once the axle laded in a Suburban? If so,I don't think so. I've never seen any axle numbered specifically for the vehicle it was used in. The number pertains to the axle unit itself,only. I hope this helps.

neto · 04-22-2011, 09:30 AM

Yes that's what I was wondering. I have had a time trying to just find out what year and exactly what I have. I'm trying to get brake parts such as the brake bar (thinking of making my own). I have been able to find the bearings, brake shoes. Still need one six lug drum and the right rear axle. I don't know if an after market is available? Found drums but not deep enough at the axle face area. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks

Burt4x4 · 04-22-2011, 10:10 AM

Take a picture of the whole axel and post it up...we may be able to identify the axel and then you can get your parts

neto · 04-22-2011, 11:59 AM

Ok thanks, here's the pictures. It's a DANA 60, semifloat, 30 spline axle, six lug.

Burt4x4 · 04-22-2011, 12:58 PM

OK rearend..probly from a Van...I had a rear 60 years ago and was told early 70s era Chevy Van but?? don't have any facts or proff..soo...no help right

someone may know...

neto · 04-22-2011, 03:50 PM

I scored at pick a part with the brake bar from a 1966 jeep. Same number and bendix. Found six lug drums on at 1981 jeep loredo with inline six that look the same but the holes for the studs are smaller. Going back to remeasure everything.

neto · 04-22-2011, 04:27 PM

no go on the drums. The center hole for the axle was to small.

Hutch · 04-22-2011, 07:40 PM

I thought these were pretty cool

**special-K** · 04-23-2011, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neto

no go on the drums. The center hole for the axle was to small.

Have you tried Napa,by chance? Your rear may be unusual,but I have found parts from Napa that some say aren't available. I just had this conversation yesterday with my buddy who has a '54 or '55-1st Design 1/2t 2wd. He was able to get all his brake parts first trip,except wheel cylinders were at the central warehouse and took a day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

I thought these were pretty cool

I love that stuff!! Now that's art!

thirdstreettito · 04-23-2011, 10:56 PM

I would love to find a truck and use ALL of that vintage equipment from those pics.

neto · 04-25-2011, 10:55 PM

I tried Napa for the drums but no luck. Getting to the point of wanting to change it out for a newer model that I can find parts. This Dana is 62" drum face to drum face. It's 6 lug. Do any of you guys no of any Dana's that would fit? Or maybe another solution?
Thanks

justcuz · 04-26-2011, 11:29 AM

A couple of options would be a 12 bolt from a Chevy, a Dana 44 from a GMC 4x4 or a 14 bolt semi-float from a later GM vehicle. A 2wd 14 bolt is 3" narrower than a 4x4 rear axle. Not sure about the 88-98 axle pad width right now, but could measure it for you if your interested. The semi-float 14 bolt would be the strongest, but the closest stock axle ratio would be a 3.42. Another option could be a Jeep Cherokee Chief Dana 44 since they are wider than a Wagoneer rear axle. You could consider a disc brake conversion on the Dana 60 that may solve your drum issue. Did you look on Jollys 60/66 GMC website for any info on the brakes? I looked at info on there the other day and did see the availability of the Dana 60 rear axle in your application.

03-29-2011, 03:14 PM	#126
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03-29-2011, 03:35 PM	#127
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03-30-2011, 06:58 PM	#129
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Not sure what's up under these,but they're big GMCs: Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 03-30-2011 at 06:59 PM.

03-30-2011, 07:01 PM	#130
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Here are some cool old ones: Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-30-2011, 11:15 PM	#131
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: NAPCO Thread Dont you just love Hanks Truck Pictures Tim? __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

03-31-2011, 06:51 AM	#132
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Yes. I end up there searching pictures even when I don't go straight there. Half the time I don't know I'm there until I see the name at the bottom. i don't think these have been shown yet: Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 03-31-2011 at 07:18 AM.

03-31-2011, 08:59 AM	#133
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Aw heck,here's another handful: Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-02-2011, 06:35 PM	#134
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Huh? Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-02-2011, 07:40 PM	#135
mal68ibu Parts Hunter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sacramento Posts: 247	Re: NAPCO Thread Red 58-59 gmc dually. SICK!!!! I would love that with a cummins and a 5 speed. __________________ 1968 Chevelle 300 DLX (350 4 speed) 1984 GMC 2500 6.2, 700r4 work truck 1967 GMC Custom (was 6.5 Turbo Diesel powered) My ebay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/The-Musclecar...3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm My website:http://themusclecarshop.net/ 1967 GMC 6.5 TD conversion build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=290922

04-04-2011, 01:16 PM	#136
feller Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: madison, IN. Posts: 484	Re: NAPCO Thread lol that green and white gmc stepper has got some pizza cutters on it!!!

04-18-2011, 06:36 PM	#137
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread Glad I came across this thread. Would the BOM number have been changed if a NAPCO conversion was done on a 63 GMC suburban? Here's what it looks like. Attached Images

04-20-2011, 02:44 PM	#138
justcuz Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, Ca. Posts: 930	Re: NAPCO Thread I don't see why unless it was a 3/4 ton. All Suburbans that I have seen were 1/2 tons with a short wheelbase. They would have had closed knuckle Dana 44 front axles with drum brakes and either a 12 bolt or a GM corporate HO 35 drop out rear axle if it was a Chevy and a Dana 44 rear axle if it was a GMC.

04-22-2011, 07:12 AM	#139
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: NAPCO Thread Are you asking if the number would have been changed once the axle laded in a Suburban? If so,I don't think so. I've never seen any axle numbered specifically for the vehicle it was used in. The number pertains to the axle unit itself,only. I hope this helps. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-22-2011, 09:30 AM	#140
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread Yes that's what I was wondering. I have had a time trying to just find out what year and exactly what I have. I'm trying to get brake parts such as the brake bar (thinking of making my own). I have been able to find the bearings, brake shoes. Still need one six lug drum and the right rear axle. I don't know if an after market is available? Found drums but not deep enough at the axle face area. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

04-22-2011, 10:10 AM	#141
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04-22-2011, 11:59 AM	#142
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread Ok thanks, here's the pictures. It's a DANA 60, semifloat, 30 spline axle, six lug. Attached Images

04-22-2011, 12:58 PM	#143
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: NAPCO Thread OK rearend..probly from a Van...I had a rear 60 years ago and was told early 70s era Chevy Van but?? don't have any facts or proff..soo...no help right someone may know... __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

04-22-2011, 03:50 PM	#144
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread I scored at pick a part with the brake bar from a 1966 jeep. Same number and bendix. Found six lug drums on at 1981 jeep loredo with inline six that look the same but the holes for the studs are smaller. Going back to remeasure everything.

04-22-2011, 04:27 PM	#145
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread no go on the drums. The center hole for the axle was to small.

04-22-2011, 07:40 PM	#146
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	Re: NAPCO Thread I thought these were pretty cool Attached Images __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

04-23-2011, 10:56 PM	#148
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: NAPCO Thread I would love to find a truck and use ALL of that vintage equipment from those pics. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

04-25-2011, 10:55 PM	#149
neto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madera, California Posts: 291	Re: NAPCO Thread I tried Napa for the drums but no luck. Getting to the point of wanting to change it out for a newer model that I can find parts. This Dana is 62" drum face to drum face. It's 6 lug. Do any of you guys no of any Dana's that would fit? Or maybe another solution? Thanks

04-26-2011, 11:29 AM	#150
justcuz Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, Ca. Posts: 930	Re: NAPCO Thread A couple of options would be a 12 bolt from a Chevy, a Dana 44 from a GMC 4x4 or a 14 bolt semi-float from a later GM vehicle. A 2wd 14 bolt is 3" narrower than a 4x4 rear axle. Not sure about the 88-98 axle pad width right now, but could measure it for you if your interested. The semi-float 14 bolt would be the strongest, but the closest stock axle ratio would be a 3.42. Another option could be a Jeep Cherokee Chief Dana 44 since they are wider than a Wagoneer rear axle. You could consider a disc brake conversion on the Dana 60 that may solve your drum issue. Did you look on Jollys 60/66 GMC website for any info on the brakes? I looked at info on there the other day and did see the availability of the Dana 60 rear axle in your application. Last edited by justcuz; 04-26-2011 at 11:11 PM.

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