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6lcummins · 04-02-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackattack

Keep in mind, for a diesel, you don't want the return line just dumping into the top of the tank, you want to run a hose down into the existing fuel to avoid aeration.

Unless you have a good fuel system that traps and removes the entrained air in the fuel as sloshing entrains oxygen/air in the fuel so either way the oxygen/air is in the fuel.

watahyahknow · 04-02-2013, 06:41 PM

there might be some leaking happening with the return so high up in the tank and the lack of a breatinghole might put the tank under vacuum as the diesel gets used , the second idea about the return intoo the fuelsender might be a better idea

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-03-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackattack

Keep in mind, for a diesel, you don't want the return line just dumping into the top of the tank, you want to run a hose down into the existing fuel to avoid aeration.

I've had it this exact way on my 95 F-350 for 2 1/2 years with no problem. It runs down a tube and into the tank from the very top. Factory ford engineered tank too.

Mustard72 · 04-10-2013, 01:49 AM

So do you Ryans end up with the tops of the GN hitches about 1" above the tops of the frames? I did a quick measurement on Old Mustard tonight and it looks like it would need to be 1" to be flush with the top of the bed floor. Just wanted to see if that's what you guys used, too. Looks like right around 1" from your pics. Mine's going in a wood bed C20.

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-10-2013, 02:11 AM

I had Ryan measure his for me and he said 3/4". That is the distance from the short bed supports to the frame on steel bed trucks. I measured a half ton steel bed truck I have here and the floor is 1", and the support does hang down 1/4". Hope this helps.

ryanroo · 04-10-2013, 07:53 AM

the hat channels that run under the steel floor on both the beds i measured were 3/4" and the bed floor ribs are ~1/4" so from the top of the floor ribs to the frame is about 1 inch. for me to make the hitch work, so the top of the plate was at the bottom of the floor ribs it was spaced up 3/4" and the center circle where the ball is is set up the 1/4" so it sits even with the top of the ribs. since the wood on a wood bed is sitting on the frame, you will have to cut several of the boards in half at the hitch and you will be able to see the entire hitch plate.
Ryan

Mustard72 · 04-12-2013, 01:38 PM

Cool. Thanks. Yeah, I figured I'd have to support the boards where they need to be cut for the hitch.

Thanks again. I'm done pirating the thread now.

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-15-2013, 03:39 PM

Nick, it isn't an issue.

Luther Grimace · 04-16-2013, 10:20 PM

I like the gooseneck hitch. What did the top part you welded in come off of? I wouldn't worry about it breaking!
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jbclassix · 04-16-2013, 10:26 PM

Ryan's new trailer.

6BT 56 · 04-16-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jbclassix

Ryan's new trailer.

I guess no matter how big the truck ....... When it breaks you will eventually need a bigger truck to get it home !

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-17-2013, 01:08 AM

I doubt I could afford the air in the tires on that beast!

jbclassix · 04-17-2013, 01:16 AM

Yours and Ryan's goose neck builds could handle the stress I am sure.

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-17-2013, 02:01 PM

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-17-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

I like the gooseneck hitch. What did the top part you welded in come off of? I wouldn't worry about it breaking!
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Thanks. It was a B&W from a 02 Dodge and I just unbolted the center section and junked the rest.

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-30-2013, 06:42 PM

I went out to the shop and look what the wind blew off my truck.

I'm going to start boxing the frame tomorrow. I'll work on this until my parts show up for the wife's excursion, then it's go time on it until it's done.

jbclassix · 04-30-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

.....I'm going to start boxing the frame tomorrow. I'll work on this until my parts show up for the wife's excursion, then it's go time on it until it's done.

Cummins excursion?

6BT 56 · 04-30-2013, 07:00 PM

Excursion ??? Do tell. My wife needs a diesel family hauler as well. what you up to ?

6lcummins · 04-30-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbclassix

Cummins excursion?

Would there be any other way to have it???

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Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Excursion ??? Do tell. My wife needs a diesel family hauler as well. what you up to ?

I'm pretty sure we are taking the VE24V out of the 76 and putting into the Excusion along with a 47RH. Both will be completely "stock" though. And possibly mate it up to my DLD I have laying around from my 96.

6BT 56 · 04-30-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 6lcummins

Would there be any other way to have it???

I'm pretty sure we are taking the VE24V out of the 76 and putting into the Excusion along with a 47RH. Both will be completely "stock" though. And possibly mate it up to my DLD I have laying around from my 96.

I confused. Your building a cummins excursion as well. ? Ryan is building one and your helping ? Not trying to hyjack the longhorn thread but this has me interested. We need a excursion thread . Even if it has to go in alternate tinkerings !!!!

ryanroo · 04-30-2013, 08:24 PM

Nick is helping Ryan

Ryan is starting another project because he hates working on the Longhorn, and got bored working on his car. Hehehe

6lcummins · 04-30-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 6BT 56

I confused. Your building a cummins excursion as well. ? Ryan is building one and your helping ? Not trying to hyjack the longhorn thread but this has me interested. We need a excursion thread . Even if it has to go in alternate tinkerings !!!!

I'm his brother, so i get to help on a lot of the projects he does, just never in pictures.

6BT 56 · 04-30-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 6lcummins

I'm his brother, so i get to help on a lot of the projects he does, just never in pictures.

Ahhh... Now I see. So if I paid attention in class.... the 76 was the crew cab that used to be for lack of a better term a monster truck ? It was getting a 24V ve pumped 5.9?? and a short box conversion? Now that is going in a Excursion ? With a dodge auto? What transfercase? Yep build thread required . I like where this is going. I'd love to buy one of those. They can be found up here in Ontario with gas power for a good deal . Much easier swap than trying to fit a 5.9 in a 02 suburban , maby????

Thanks for setting me straight 6L

6lcummins · 05-01-2013, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Ahhh... Now I see. So if I paid attention in class.... the 76 was the crew cab that used to be for lack of a better term a monster truck ? It was getting a 24V ve pumped 5.9?? and a short box conversion? Now that is going in a Excursion ? With a dodge auto? What transfercase? Yep build thread required . I like where this is going. I'd love to buy one of those. They can be found up here in Ontario with gas power for a good deal . Much easier swap than trying to fit a 5.9 in a 02 suburban , maby????

Thanks for setting me straight 6L

I personally like Excersions a lot better. I personally would do the Excursion way before a Suburban.

I'm pretty sure we are going to use my spare NP241DLD but I'm not 100% sure though. Once parts arrive there will more than likely be a thread.

The VE24V was in the "monster truck" but the Excursion will be a better home for it.

mosesburb · 05-01-2013, 01:55 AM

Is this the Excursion that was rhinolined on the outside??

04-02-2013, 06:41 PM	#1552
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion there might be some leaking happening with the return so high up in the tank and the lack of a breatinghole might put the tank under vacuum as the diesel gets used , the second idea about the return intoo the fuelsender might be a better idea __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

04-10-2013, 01:49 AM	#1554
Mustard72 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 641	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion So do you Ryans end up with the tops of the GN hitches about 1" above the tops of the frames? I did a quick measurement on Old Mustard tonight and it looks like it would need to be 1" to be flush with the top of the bed floor. Just wanted to see if that's what you guys used, too. Looks like right around 1" from your pics. Mine's going in a wood bed C20. __________________ Nick Old Mustard, 1972 Chevy C20, 350, TH350, 4.10 Dana 60 rear, owned since I was 16 in 1986 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=545356 Blue Bell, 1987 K20, 6.2L Diesel, TH400/NP208, 4.10 gears Ustahav 1976 K10, 350/350/203, Gov Loc, Yooper beater trail truck.

04-10-2013, 02:11 AM	#1555
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I had Ryan measure his for me and he said 3/4". That is the distance from the short bed supports to the frame on steel bed trucks. I measured a half ton steel bed truck I have here and the floor is 1", and the support does hang down 1/4". Hope this helps. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-10-2013, 07:53 AM	#1556
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion the hat channels that run under the steel floor on both the beds i measured were 3/4" and the bed floor ribs are ~1/4" so from the top of the floor ribs to the frame is about 1 inch. for me to make the hitch work, so the top of the plate was at the bottom of the floor ribs it was spaced up 3/4" and the center circle where the ball is is set up the 1/4" so it sits even with the top of the ribs. since the wood on a wood bed is sitting on the frame, you will have to cut several of the boards in half at the hitch and you will be able to see the entire hitch plate. Ryan __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

04-12-2013, 01:38 PM	#1557
Mustard72 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 641	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Cool. Thanks. Yeah, I figured I'd have to support the boards where they need to be cut for the hitch. Thanks again. I'm done pirating the thread now. __________________ Nick Old Mustard, 1972 Chevy C20, 350, TH350, 4.10 Dana 60 rear, owned since I was 16 in 1986 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=545356 Blue Bell, 1987 K20, 6.2L Diesel, TH400/NP208, 4.10 gears Ustahav 1976 K10, 350/350/203, Gov Loc, Yooper beater trail truck.

04-15-2013, 03:39 PM	#1558
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Nick, it isn't an issue. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-16-2013, 10:20 PM	#1559
Luther Grimace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 380	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I like the gooseneck hitch. What did the top part you welded in come off of? I wouldn't worry about it breaking! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1955.2 Chevy 3100, 6bt, Getrag G360 5-speed, NP205, Dana 60/70 - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540 1992 Chevy K1500 Silverado ECSB 1965 "Crewcab" Chevelle 300 Deluxe - soon to be LBZ Duramax/4L85E powered

04-16-2013, 10:26 PM	#1560
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Ryan's new trailer. __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

04-17-2013, 01:08 AM	#1562
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I doubt I could afford the air in the tires on that beast! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-17-2013, 01:16 AM	#1563
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Yours and Ryan's goose neck builds could handle the stress I am sure. __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

04-17-2013, 02:01 PM	#1564
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-30-2013, 06:42 PM	#1566
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I went out to the shop and look what the wind blew off my truck. I'm going to start boxing the frame tomorrow. I'll work on this until my parts show up for the wife's excursion, then it's go time on it until it's done. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-30-2013, 07:00 PM	#1568
6BT 56 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Coldwater On. Canada Posts: 551	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Excursion ??? Do tell. My wife needs a diesel family hauler as well. what you up to ? __________________ 56 gmc 4X4 Cummins 5 spd 60F 70R 2005 Ram 3500 DRW cummins 4X4. 2006 Conolift 9/15. 2011 F 350 winter beater New 2018 ram 3500 drw 4x4. Makes my 2005 Look as if it's been running on 4 cyl since new ! My Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556908

04-30-2013, 08:24 PM	#1571
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Nick is helping Ryan Ryan is starting another project because he hates working on the Longhorn, and got bored working on his car. Hehehe __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

05-01-2013, 01:55 AM	#1575
mosesburb I had a V-8 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,116	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Is this the Excursion that was rhinolined on the outside?? __________________ 1972 K20 Suburban, 5.9L Cummins, Banks Power Pack, NV4500HD, NP205, H.A.D., D60/14FF ARB Link To Build: HERE.



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