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04-21-2015, 10:58 PM | #1 |
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I put one of these in my 77. I was not going to cut my perfect unaltered dash.
http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/te605b.html I used this speaker setup for the front. http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...rts/s5013.html I already had a very nice set of 6X9's for behind the seats.
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That's probably the U63 Delco 41APB1 radio GM used in base trucks and some of the cars in '74.
Radio service manuals for the 1970's & 1980's radios are very hard to come by. This was right on the edge of the truly throw-away radios. The guys that did this kind of service work tend to hang onto their paper manuals and keep them "in the family" of radio enthusiasts. It's almost blasphemy to let this information outside the community. Repair of even non working units is not that difficult but re-aligning the receiver coils, if they need it, is an art and not that easy without some guidance. That being said they do show up with more regularity on Fleabay than they used to... Here's a SAMS Photofact manual for the 1974 AM/FM radios. It may be close enough if you're not frightened of older electronics. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1975-CH...28488685&rt=nc EDIT: I found a 1974 Delco all GM models radio manual and bought it. I'll scan it and post it up in the manuals thread. Probably after the end of the month. If you want the paper original once I'm done we can make a deal. I've been on the lookout for these for some time and this one popped up at a reasonably inexpensive shipped price. Usually the seller seems to think they're printed with platinum ink on gold plates.
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04-22-2015, 02:13 PM | #4 |
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Cool stuff, Hatzie. I bought the repair manual for my 64 off eBay. I just like this stuff.
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The 50's and 60's manuals seem to be easier to find. If you're looking for a maddening exercise in futility try to find very late 80's and 90's GM automobile & truck radio schematics.
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I can believe that. By the 90s, especially, I wouldn't think too many radios would be repaired. Not like the 50s / 60s.
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I've enjoyed reading this thread and have learned A LOT! from Greg and everyone who has helped him.
In fact! I knew that I would use this thread as a reference for my own build. And I thought that I should catalog the location within this huge thread of all the topics, so that I could look them up later to see how to fix things. And, I figured, I might was well share I know it's outrageous, but here it is: air cleaner: 7, 11, 43 blower motor: 4, 5, 7 body work: 13, 47-52 brakes: 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 47, 55, 58 bumpers: 1 carb: 5, 17, 18, 19, 46 clutch: 27, 28 clutch fork: 34 clutch linkage: 30, 47 clutch pedal: 29, 30, 31 dipstick: 6 distributor: 12, 14, 20 door panels: 20, 21, 37 drive shaft: 30, 31 exhaust: 1, 8 fan shroud: 23, 24 flywheel: 27 frame: 5, 61 freeze plugs: 6, 7, 8 fuel problem: 43, 44, 45, 46 gauges: 2 gas tank: 12, 13 headers: 8, 11 headlights: 56 ignition: 53, 54 inner fender: 4 intake manifold: 14, 15, 18, 19, 46, 50 locks: 21 kick panels: 21, 22, 23 main seal: 27, 28 oil pan: 6, 27 oil pump: 6 power steering: 58, 59, 60, 61 radiator: 7 reverse light: 57 speedometer cable: 34, 38, 39, 41 starter: 7 steering column: 54, 58 stereo: 63 tachometer: 41 thermostat: 14, 18 transmission: 26, 31, 33, 34 transmission controlled spark system: 6, 10 turn signals: 58 u-joints: 35, 36 valvues: 48 windows: 38 window seals: 37 |
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LOL!!
Great idea, Manny. It seems like many guys are referring to this thread for assistance.
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Dude, you could write a new service manual with all the info in this thread.
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Manny you missed the Alternator? page 11 I think
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My stock radio still worked and did so for many years. Then I retired it but left it in the stock location. I didn't want to cut up my dash so I bought one of those Highliners years ago and installed an aftermarket stereo. Best thing I did for that truck really. One of the few mods I ever did to my truck that made a real difference. That and the CB radio. Ten four.
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free admission at the local junk yard and 15% off, if you guys have one of these Pick N Pulls in your area (and have a free Rewards membership) why not throw some tools in a bucket and head out there and see what they got, that's where I'll be
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ok, so let me walk you through what we found at the Pick N Pull
fist we found a rear view mirror (cost $6 bucks), now I wasn't really looking for one of these, but it was just laying there on the floor of this '73 pick up truck already removed, so I grabbed it I like to document where my spare bits came from |
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as you can see here, my old one has seen better days
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next I found this lens for the gauge cluster in this '81 GMC - $13 bucks and a special thanks to the person who removed it without breaking it
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ok so lets take a look at the gauge lens situation before and after, now those of you with square bodies know that they lenses tend to yellow kinda like these plastic headlights do these days
Side Note: by the way the Greg played the game of trying to buff out discolored plastic headlights before on multiple occasions and he wasn't going to waste time and money on trying it on the this lens as its hours with the drill vs 41 years of mother nature, we don't stand a chance fellers |
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so lets compare the old to the new lens, by the way a brand new replacement lens from LMC truck will run you about $50 bucks
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and here's what the new(er) lens looks like on the truck
it's not perfect, but it's an improvement, when I have the moneys I may replace it for a new one, or go with different gauges all together, stay tuned Now I can clearly tell that my Ammeter and Fuel Gauge don't work!!! hee hee |
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as my friend used to say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes, well in this case the squirrel being me, and the nut being two nuts, or two speakers
I was looking for radios all day when low and behold I look inside of this green (pronounced "gorgeous") '86 and atop of it's dash are two of these speakers, properly removed, in excellent condition, just sitting there starring at me saying well pick us up man and put us in that there bucket ... and so I did... |
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now I am going to have to do some homework to figure out where one can install two such fine speakers in the cab of said truck, maybe one of youz can learn me, cause mine only had one speaker atop of the dash, do they go inside some fancy bulging door panels or do they live behind the bench seat in there them corners
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... mirror, lens, speakers, you are killing us Smallz, did you find a replacement radio or not ???
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Re: Restoring Rusty - AUDIOVOX C-977B
then I came up on a magnificent '77 pickup truck, I swung the door open, and there she was, the AUDIOVOX 8 Track Car Stereo Tape Player with AM/FM Stereo Radio
FCC DATA MODEL NO C-977B "Receiver certificated for compliance with FCC Rules Part 15" yeah baby, what ever that means, LOL and yes I have the knobs, well most of them |
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