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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Good work sir! This should be a nice rig with some great functionality!
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Here are some of my pics. of my calliper brackets i built for my dana 60 using same disks and callipers (2012 ram 3500) also used master from 2007 k3500 callipers are machined out of solid piece 14x14x2 A36 plate then case harden to approx. 56 rc 20-30 thou.deep my reasoning for using a36 was largely cost motivated and seeing that no where on bracket is less than .700 thick failure was not an issue i want to thank mcmlxix for all the useful info.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Those came out awesome! I like them better then my multi piece design that requires welding...
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
those certainly are sweet! i pondered that same approach when i did mine, but i dont have that kind of skillz on the CNC
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
You should reproduce and sell those here.
Dumb question-but you got the calipers and discs from a 2012 Ram-Why wouldn't the caliper brackets from the same truck not fit? Different design on the Dana 60 years?
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
It would be great to be able to buy an aftermarket brake kit like this. You can buy just about anything you want for older cars as far as upgraded disc brake kits go, something like this is long overdue for trucks.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Used later model ram disks and calipers because there 14.125 dia. with large dual piston calipers [more surface area,bigger dia.,more stopping power]noticed a big difference in stopping performance
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
DWL, what kind/year truck did you do this work to? Also, how about the rear brakes, did you upgrade to a rear disc as well, or swap a newer disc brake rear diff into the truck? Thanks
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
First things first- SORRY- WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!!
Now- Why wouldn't the caliper bracket interchange from the same Ram truck? ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
It takes a lot to mass produce parts.... it would be simpler and less of an investment to sell the idea (and cad/cnc files) to a company that is in the business to produce a bracket. The best thing he could do is get a copyright patent, then sell the idea...
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
I would think mass producing would be a PIA. You'd have to have the parts tested by the NTSB and so on. Not to mention the liability factor. You'd need to be insured out the wazoo.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
I agree that it would be a pain in the butt. if sold as an off road only type of modification, i think(i have no info to back this) that you could be a little less liable. I know MCMLXIX has been asked to reproduce his, i have been asked to reproduce mine. i am just a little skeptical, and don't care to look into it.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
I agree with the mass producing would be a pia. I did this conversion only because of the challenge of doing it and the concept made sense to me and it works. Its guys like all of us that keep these forums going and enjoyable just thought I'd share what I did . Keep all the good ideas posted as we all benefit!!! CHEERS P.S. someone had asked me what truck it is Its a 99 k3500 crew cab short box,wristed radius arm front suspension rad flow coilovers,1997 5.9 cummins 12 valve ,nv 5600 ,np 205 ,11.5 AAM out of 2007 k3500 single rear wheel. Just started test driving it and knock on wood so far so good Cheers again.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Are those dimensions of stock the minimum it would take or can 14x14x2 be minimized? Do you have a model (cad/cam) of those or the g-code?
Those brackets are gorgeous, great job on designing a one-piece solution.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
DWL, I am really interested in building a set of these myself but my Dana 60 is a couple hundred miles away and fully assembled yet. I am not in a position to disassemble and take all the necessary measurements, but I am in a position to put some material into a vertical milling center. I would like to upgrade to this disc-over-hub arrangement as well. I would really appreciate the dimensions and from there I could model it and code it. Also, what diameter of wheels are required to clear your setup?
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
^^^^^ x2 ^^^^^
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#169 |
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
From reading what Rich posted, a 17" wheel is the minimum diameter to clear the calipers. From the pics posted, the wheels barely clear the calipers.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
i can back that up. i have to leave the calipers and abutments off to use my 16" roller in the garage.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
I would be in on prchaisng a set of these brackets!!!!
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
Definitely a market for these parts. I would think a vendor like ORD would be might be interested in purchasing the design and would be able to capitalize on it and sell plenty of the upgraded brake kits. A Dana 44 version would also probably do well. Just my opinion.
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
A couple more questions for the guys who have made the brake swap, where are you buying the rotors/calipers/ master cylinder from, dealerships? Salvage yards? Or an auto parts store like NAPA? Also, what brake proportioning valve are you using?
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
i got calipers rotors and abutment brackets from one of the local JYs. Mostly for mock up.
i want to get the EBC rotors and pads when i put the axle together for real. at that point i will likey get fresh calipers as well. i have no idea how long these sat out in the yard before i got them. i will be plumbing a wilwood adjustable prop valve in junt in case it needs it. master is from a 95 K2500 and was chosen based on its bore and compatibility with my booster. |
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Re: D60 Front Brake Upgrade
I got my calipers from a JY and had them powder coated locally. Then I put new seals in myself. I am using stock rotors and calipers from a local parts store. I figured I'm already 3 steps ahead with the larger components and parts store quality will be fine. (I understand Ryan's EBC upgrade for the beast that he's building.) I am also upgrading to hydroboost and using a 2005 GMC unit but I did plumb in a Wilwood adjustable proportioning block. I am also running a disc brake rear from a 2004 GMC that has dual piston rear disc brakes.
All this is still untested at this time... I have given up with time estimates as my paint and body guy is taking longer then expected... |
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