The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Forums > Alternate Tinkerings

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-12-2009, 12:53 AM   #151
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Thanks OB.

Shifter: the enclosure will be moved forward, bolted on with custom brackets, and the shift rod shortened accordingly.

Roof rack: Yes I will go with a vintage style rack when the time comes In fact I have a VW rack with wood slats I may restore/mod to fit.

Thanks for the backup Jvsapp

I made some more progress last night. Basically just more cutting/trimming to get the frame section and crossmember closer to fitting. I ended up needing to make a C-Notch in the Minx frame to clear the rear/lower arm mount. Pics to follow...

Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 06-12-2009 at 12:57 AM.
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 08:39 PM   #152
original_balzer
Registered User
 
original_balzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: roosevelt utah
Posts: 325
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

The vintage VW rack with wood would look killer on there.
I didnt mean to sound like I didnt like a roof rack at all just something other than the modern one.

I thought of 1 more tiny thing. Use a muffler that wont make it sound like a ricer. But knowing you theres no way it would sound like a fart cannon, so m probably safe there.
__________________
-61 c10 short step
-67 c10 short step
-71 k10 long fleet
-77 k20 long fleet (gettin all the goodies from frankentruck)
-79 c30/k30 3+3 frankentruck (cab and frame for sale)
-99 GMC yukon daily driver
original_balzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 09:29 PM   #153
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

I'm not really sure what type of muffler will give it the non-rice sound but I won't be happy till I find it. Initial plans are to run the full length header the engine came with, 2.5" pipe into a 40 series flowmaster I have in the parts bin, and a long tail pipe all the way back. Hopefully it'll have a decent sound, but I'll swap mufflers more than once if needed.
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 10:09 PM   #154
Jvsapp
Registered User
 
Jvsapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on a rock in the pacific
Posts: 554
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

hence the reason my 20V corolla has the stock muffler under it. i was contemplating a stock subaru WRX muffler. i mean stock they flow 260HP so it should be sufficient for my car, yet still quiet. but the flowmaster 40 will add a little growl there. just stay away from the import N1 style mufflers. those are the fart cans that are obnoxious and loud.
Jvsapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #155
original_balzer
Registered User
 
original_balzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: roosevelt utah
Posts: 325
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

A buddy of mine build a 1989 nissan 240sx for drag racing and swapped in a turbo engine from the jap equilivant car. I couldnt tell ya what size the engine was but it was a 4 cyl rear wheel drive.

ANYWAY he had an exhaust cutout for racing but on the street he used this muffler and it had a deep throaty sound like a little corvette. I recall him telling me it was a cheapo from autozone or something.

http://www.holley.com/types/Raptor.asp

I tried one on my 2.8L v6 S-10 pickup, and it sounded good as well. I noticed it was fairly quiet until I got into the upper RPMs. Just a sugestion.

Oh by the way mine was 2.5" inlet/outlet.
__________________
-61 c10 short step
-67 c10 short step
-71 k10 long fleet
-77 k20 long fleet (gettin all the goodies from frankentruck)
-79 c30/k30 3+3 frankentruck (cab and frame for sale)
-99 GMC yukon daily driver
original_balzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 11:09 PM   #156
Jvsapp
Registered User
 
Jvsapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on a rock in the pacific
Posts: 554
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Quote:
Originally Posted by original_balzer View Post
A buddy of mine build a 1989 nissan 240sx for drag racing and swapped in a turbo engine from the jap equilivant car. I couldnt tell ya what size the engine was but it was a 4 cyl rear wheel drive.

ANYWAY he had an exhaust cutout for racing but on the street he used this muffler and it had a deep throaty sound like a little corvette. I recall him telling me it was a cheapo from autozone or something.

http://www.holley.com/types/Raptor.asp

I tried one on my 2.8L v6 S-10 pickup, and it sounded good as well. I noticed it was fairly quiet until I got into the upper RPMs. Just a sugestion.

Oh by the way mine was 2.5" inlet/outlet.
probably was a SR20DET. the raptor muffler i have one on my nova. it's pretty tame but mine is probably 2" in and out.
Jvsapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 11:11 PM   #157
71'tahoe
Registered User
 
71'tahoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: lynchburg ohio
Posts: 736
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

I also have one of those raptor mufflers on my toyota truck(its a 4 cylinder) and it doesnt sound bad. I also had a daily driver nissan x cab truck with a hi flow converter and a 2chamber flowmaster and it was loud when I got in the throttle...
71'tahoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2009, 02:24 AM   #158
dammitmitchell
the pollock
 
dammitmitchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: abilene, texas
Posts: 4,423
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jvsapp View Post
hence the reason my 20V corolla has the stock muffler under it. i was contemplating a stock subaru WRX muffler. i mean stock they flow 260HP so it should be sufficient for my car, yet still quiet. but the flowmaster 40 will add a little growl there. just stay away from the import N1 style mufflers. those are the fart cans that are obnoxious and loud.
the issue with subaru exhaust is the cat's.. the muffler will free up tonsof power when you drop it (on a subaru) but it's thecat system that totally neuters thecar..
once you do intake and exhaust it is a beast...
sorry.. subarus come secondto chevy's
__________________
Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination)
Army vet 02-08
RIP El Jay! Miss you brother!


http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042
dammitmitchell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2009, 02:41 AM   #159
Jvsapp
Registered User
 
Jvsapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on a rock in the pacific
Posts: 554
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammitmitchell View Post
the issue with subaru exhaust is the cat's.. the muffler will free up tonsof power when you drop it (on a subaru) but it's thecat system that totally neuters thecar..
once you do intake and exhaust it is a beast...
sorry.. subarus come secondto chevy's
Makes me wonder if FF is gonna use the kitty or not. my 20V corolla i lucked out i had a high flow cat from my OBX header i had on the original motor sitting in a box. the header that came with my clip was larger than the stock one so all i had to do was slot the holes on the high flow one and it bolted up.
Jvsapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2009, 02:56 AM   #160
dammitmitchell
the pollock
 
dammitmitchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: abilene, texas
Posts: 4,423
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

all i can say from my stint with imports is that the CAT is the worse part..
but man i LOVE subaru mufflers.. it's like bassani it's soooo .. i dunno.. distinct..
not to hijack..
fry i WOULD NOT run a magna flow.. they have gotten expensive and are toooooooo quiet... i hear the intake on my buddies built ranger before i hear the exhaust and that bugs me..make me thing of a honda civic..
just my .02
__________________
Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination)
Army vet 02-08
RIP El Jay! Miss you brother!


http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042
dammitmitchell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2009, 11:48 AM   #161
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

No cat. The 40 series shouldn't be too quiet. I just don't know how it will sound at 9000 rpm. Can't wait to find out!
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2009, 10:17 PM   #162
aboyer
Adam B
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Westfield
Posts: 151
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Very Sweet Build Keep up the good work!!!
aboyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2009, 08:56 PM   #163
71'tahoe
Registered User
 
71'tahoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: lynchburg ohio
Posts: 736
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Updates?
71'tahoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2009, 11:32 PM   #164
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Ya, they're all in the camera
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 01:07 AM   #165
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Ok, I left off where I needed to C-Notch the frame to clear the lower/rear arm bushings. Here's that:


















Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 01:10 AM   #166
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Next step is to align the S2000 frame rail exactly where I need it and tack it in place. Then mock up the suspension components and check for issues. This is how it sits now with the S2000 frame section just sitting in its rough location:










Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 06-24-2009 at 01:14 AM.
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 02:06 AM   #167
Britain Smith
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hillsboro, OR
Posts: 35
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Awesome! It is going to be a tight squeeze. I will try to come by tomorrow or Thursday to check it out.

-Britain
Britain Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 11:16 AM   #168
LOW DOUGH
I'M TRUCK CRAZY!
 
LOW DOUGH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sachse, TEXAS
Posts: 1,737
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Neat Mike. Hadn't come over here to see it yet. Very cool.
LOW DOUGH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 12:37 PM   #169
BTCHN 1963
Registered User
 
BTCHN 1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: mount angel, oregon
Posts: 42
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Mike have you mocked up a wheel yet? Could I come by some day after work and check it out?
Rob
BTCHN 1963 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 12:56 PM   #170
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Britain Smith View Post
Awesome! It is going to be a tight squeeze. I will try to come by tomorrow or Thursday to check it out.

-Britain
PIR Beaches Cruise-in tonight! You goin?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOW DOUGH View Post
Neat Mike. Hadn't come over here to see it yet. Very cool.
Thanks Low Dough!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTCHN 1963 View Post
Mike have you mocked up a wheel yet? Could I come by some day after work and check it out?
Rob
You mean a ply-wood cut-out? No, but I have the wheels/tires I will be using. Haven't mocked up the susp far enough to mount them in the front yet. I already know they will sick out too far. I will be making custom A-arms to address this.

I'm heading to the PIR cruise-in tonight. How about tomorrow?
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 02:00 AM   #171
Jvsapp
Registered User
 
Jvsapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on a rock in the pacific
Posts: 554
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

looking good FF. can't wait to see more progress
Jvsapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 09:04 AM   #172
hgs_notes
GEARHEAD
 
hgs_notes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MN
Posts: 6,126
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

All I can say is, WOW. The reason most would never consider this kind of project is because of the fact just about every step requires a custom fabrication of some sort. It's not just about cutting this piece of sheetmetal and welding in that one. It's things like the clutch pedal assembly, the use of the cruise control cable rather than the throttle cable, and that front suspension swap would be a deal breaker for just about anyone. I'm sure you have that figured out, but I look at those pics, and the misalignment on the frame rails, and how the inner fenders will need mods, and, and, and... I will just have to wait for the results.

I love the cleverness of the homemade notching tool. I would have just tried to muscle it in there, or use the grinder.

The car is not my thing, but I really appreciate the effort involved. It will be fun to drive, no doubt about that.
hgs_notes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 03:28 PM   #173
dh81k30
Junior Member
 
dh81k30's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: W-S, NC
Posts: 211
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

FF,

As much as you have changed the original structure, have you considered designing and installing sub-frame connectors along with all the rest of your excellent work. I think I can safely say that, with your mods and the added power, your car will need the extra strenghthening both fore and aft and diagonally.

Just something to consider.
__________________
Have fun, Don
dh81k30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 05:04 PM   #174
Frizzle Fry
Registered User
 
Frizzle Fry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 6,449
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jvsapp View Post
looking good FF. can't wait to see more progress
Thanks for your continued interest. I'm heading out there in a few minutes
Quote:
Originally Posted by hgs_notes View Post
All I can say is, WOW. The reason most would never consider this kind of project is because of the fact just about every step requires a custom fabrication of some sort. It's not just about cutting this piece of sheetmetal and welding in that one. It's things like the clutch pedal assembly, the use of the cruise control cable rather than the throttle cable, and that front suspension swap would be a deal breaker for just about anyone. I'm sure you have that figured out, but I look at those pics, and the misalignment on the frame rails, and how the inner fenders will need mods, and, and, and... I will just have to wait for the results.

I love the cleverness of the homemade notching tool. I would have just tried to muscle it in there, or use the grinder.

The car is not my thing, but I really appreciate the effort involved. It will be fun to drive, no doubt about that.
I like taking paths not likely to be followed. When we have talent like LFD and Porterbuilt around it makes achieving that goal exponentially more difficult. That's a good thing IMO because, at least for me, it pushes the limits of what's possible. I agree that it looks like a cluster at this point but not to worry; I have the vision
Quote:
Originally Posted by dh81k30 View Post
FF,

As much as you have changed the original structure, have you considered designing and installing sub-frame connectors along with all the rest of your excellent work. I think I can safely say that, with your mods and the added power, your car will need the extra strengthening both fore and aft and diagonally.

Just something to consider.
I'm planning to install cross bracing as well as diagonal braces from the shock towers to the firewall. Maybe even a lateral strut brace as well. You're right, It will definately need all the rigidity I can throw at it.

Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 06-26-2009 at 12:28 AM.
Frizzle Fry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 11:51 PM   #175
Rokcrln
Senior Member
 
Rokcrln's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Winters Ca. 95694
Posts: 4,843
Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Looking good Mike, keep at it

Kevin
LFD Inc.
Rokcrln is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com