1964 Caprick-up = (C10+SWB)*(94 Caprice 9C1+LT1)

[66ChevyMax]

Seriously bro you are hard core, doing this much work in OK this time of year, you the man!

[no moa]

Dang, that caprice was clean (compaired to all 8 of mine up here in the rust belt) Looks like a good project.

[Pop's C-10]

you keep tha brake system in tact...so does that mean you runing tha abs to..

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by no moa

Dang, that caprice was clean (compaired to all 8 of mine up here in the rust belt) Looks like a good project.

It was VERY clean... But I was going to sacrifice the motor and trans so I just decided to tranplant all the organs... At the time I didnt have a short bed frame anyway.

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by Pop's C-10

you keep tha brake system in tact...so does that mean you runing tha abs to..

Yes, pops I am planning on keeping the ABS system.... You can see the ABS electronics in a few of the pics right next to the Radiator. The 9C1 has bigger brakes and stuff so it should work out.

I am not real sure how the weight distribution will be and whether that will cause problems on or not. I am not schooled enough on ABS. But I think it will be pretty close. It may even be lighter then the caprice when I get done.. That caprice body is HEAVY... The curb weight shows to be 4600 pounds.. 4100 dry..

[E911manager]

I have been looking at replacing the 9C1 springs with Impala SS springs. They have the same tension but the SS spring is 1.5-2 inches lower. The ride is supposed to be about the same. I can get an entire set for less than 200 bucks delivered to the door..

The plan for now is to keep the springs I have until the entire body weight is on it then see if I like what I see...

[no moa]

Originally Posted by E911manager

It was VERY clean... But I was going to sacrifice the motor and trans so I just decided to tranplant all the organs... At the time I didnt have a short bed frame anyway.

If you were closer i'd buy the body from you. Have 2 9c1s here that need good bodys, they are impossible to find. We usually end up having to destroy 4 cars to get one done.
Yes i am a diehard 9c1 guy, but i like where you went with your project, so i can't be a jerk and ***** at you for ruining a good car. lol

O ya PM sent about a couple body pieces. lol

[no moa]

Originally Posted by E911manager

I have been looking at replacing the 9C1 springs with Impala SS springs. They have the same tension but the SS spring is 1.5-2 inches lower. The ride is supposed to be about the same. I can get an entire set for less than 200 bucks delivered to the door..

The plan for now is to keep the springs I have until the entire body weight is on it then see if I like what I see...

I wouldn't say the SS springs are that much lower, maybe and inch. I removed a set from my 95 impala ss, and put a set of Hotchkis 2 inch springs, brought the car down to a nice stance that isn't to low.
The 9c1 springs ride a little harder. We been swapping back and forth for years, and some guys like the 9c1 front and SS rears, others like the SS all the way around.

[E911manager]

The ss springs in the back may level it out real nice. I have looked at 2 inch drop also. I have been debating on it a lot. But I do not want it to low.. I would like to still be able to pull my boat to the lake.... The great thing about the Caprice is they have a ton of bolt on parts for the suspension..

[jimmydean]

You could bag it easy, too. Making awesome progress, I love the fab work.

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by jimmydean

You could bag it easy, too. Making awesome progress, I love the fab work.

I have went back and forth on bagging it but that is not in the budget... I can always to that later.. I will probably be sorry..

[jimmydean]

Bags are a LOT cheaper than most people think. If you just replace the coils with bags ($200), run lines ($30), manual valves ($150 for nice ones), small 3 gallon tank and compressor ($200) then just fab up the mounting brackets since you clearly have the skills for that.

You could even go with a tank with shrader valve and add a compressor later. I was so happy I did it on my '69 and will run air from now on.

If you just plumed it with bags and shraders, just carry a 12v tire pump.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442745

For $300, you are rolling, then add air management later.

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by jimmydean

Bags are a LOT cheaper than most people think. If you just replace the coils with bags ($200), run lines ($30), manual valves ($150 for nice ones), small 3 gallon tank and compressor ($200) then just fab up the mounting brackets since you clearly have the skills for that.

You could even go with a tank with shrader valve and add a compressor later. I was so happy I did it on my '69 and will run air from now on.

If you just plumed it with bags and shraders, just carry a 12v tire pump.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442745

For $300, you are rolling, then add air management later.

Man that is so tempting.. I could do it so easy.. But I can always to it later. I really want the thing to start first..

[66-PMD-GMC]

Originally Posted by E911manager

Man that is so tempting.. I could do it so easy.. But I can always to it later. I really want the thing to start first..

I have watched here for a while and I will chime in with my 1 1/2 cents...
It already has a "car" suspension and that suspension was designed around a totally different body configuration than a truck. The weight is in totally different places now.
That chassis surely won't react the same way it did with that luxury car body on it. Sport package, luxury or not, whatever it was it sure wasn't a truck sitting on it and it didn't ride like a truck thats for sure.
So, I agree, get it running and driving, work out the bugs completely and then design the bag system you will need to get it to perform the way you feel it should. To me, that is the logical route.
Again, just my penny and a half.

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC

I have watched here for a while and I will chime in with my 1 1/2 cents...
It already has a "car" suspension and that suspension was designed around a totally different body configuration than a truck. The weight is in totally different places now.
That chassis surely won't react the same way it did with that luxury car body on it. Sport package, luxury or not, whatever it was it sure wasn't a truck sitting on it and it didn't ride like a truck thats for sure.
So, I agree, get it running and driving, work out the bugs completely and then design the bag system you will need to get it to perform the way you feel it should. To me, that is the logical route.
Again, just my penny and a half.

All of that has rattled through my head!! I can always change the springs out. Oh and the frame has a factory c notch!!!
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[LIVE RUST]

I think its gonna be fine. Think of the weight in that caprice body, hell the doors alone probably weigh the same as the cab. This is sick. I cant wait to see it finished. Nice job!

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by LIVE RUST

I think its gonna be fine. Think of the weight in that caprice body, hell the doors alone probably weigh the same as the cab. This is sick. I cant wait to see it finished. Nice job!

1966 1/2 ton fleetside shows a curb weight of 3220. The Caprices curb weight 4177. I am sure the frame has some to do with it because the caprice is almost all boxed, has the 4 link rear end, etc. But the majority of the weight is that behemoth body. Even with special consideration to the cab and bed mounting points to distribute the weight it is still going to be 5-600 pounds lighter.

I can jump up and down on the side of the cab and the entire frame moves down an inch or two. But doing the same thing to the 63 I have in the yard with the same sheet metal on it feels like it is going to flip over and rocks all over the place.

Anyway the unknown is really just that "the unknown". But that can all be changed very inexpensively.. Caprice parts are way cheaper then vintage truck parts...

[66-PMD-GMC]

Originally Posted by E911manager

1966 1/2 ton fleetside shows a curb weight of 3220. The Caprices curb weight 4177. ...........
the weight it is still going to be 5-600 pounds lighter.
I can jump up and down on the side of the cab and the entire frame moves down an inch or two.

It isn't a matter of one being lighter than the other, my point is and was that the truck body is very nose heavy and much taller than the caprice.
Weight transfer when moving will be completely different between the two bodies.
That is why I suggested you wait for airbags.
I was and am giving you my humble advice for what it is.
A fact you are dealing with is, that of weight center (balance point front to rear) on that cab for instance, is about even with the face of the dash.
On my 63 prostreet I am having to push the motor back into the firewall which means the firewall is going back too just to get decent weight transfer.
My build is much different than yours and I am not comparing exactly but the fact remains that the majority of your weight is now way forward and higher.
Your "balance" is now way off so again, bagging it will be different.
Take it for what it is, I love this build and I think you are right to wait for bagging plans.
Keep up the good work.

[E911manager]

Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC

It isn't a matter of one being lighter than the other, my point is and was that the truck body is very nose heavy and much taller than the caprice.
Weight transfer when moving will be completely different between the two bodies.
That is why I suggested you wait for airbags.
I was and am giving you my humble advice for what it is.
A fact you are dealing with is, that of weight center (balance point front to rear) on that cab for instance, is about even with the face of the dash.
On my 63 prostreet I am having to push the motor back into the firewall which means the firewall is going back too just to get decent weight transfer.
My build is much different than yours and I am not comparing exactly but the fact remains that the majority of your weight is now way forward and higher.
Your "balance" is now way off so again, bagging it will be different.
Take it for what it is, I love this build and I think you are right to wait for bagging plans.
Keep up the good work.

I totally agree.. This is one reason why I channeled the frame supports down to drop the cab as low as possible. But the frame design and four link rear end along with a pretty robust 4 wheel disk set up should be plenty to stop the lighter load.

[Bears63]

I've been gone from the boards a bit and I was catching up on your progress. This truck is sure turning out real nice. I love how clean that firewall looks now, really is going to be stunning once it's all done and together.

[jimmythompson1964]

I am very interested in how it handles when you are finished. I am planning to weld a Camaro sub-frame under mine. You are going to have one cool truck

[E911manager]

Thanks Bear and Jimmy. I am a little behind but may get some hours in this weekend. I have to go get a 4th parts truck for the inner fenders and side bed steps. It is deep in the woods and is going to s@$& getting it out. But it will be way worth it!!
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[Mayo]

that is cool

[E911manager]

Got 30 minutes in tonight... Mounted the brake pedal assembly (pics tomorrow). I mounted the booster, master cylinder and the column. Then I mocked up the steering joints. Spent a few minutes on the top radiator mounts trying to come up with an idea that will look decent on the top of the radiator support.

[E911manager]

Determined that there is no way the inner fenders from the caprice will ever work and would definitely look like crap.. So it looks like modified original inner fenders are the answer. cut the hole on the passenger side for the wiring harness. Looked through every radiator hose in Napa and finally found a lower radiator hose that will work.