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Re: Supercharger for my Apache
Yeah sounds like a Supercharger
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Re: Supercharger for my Apache
Cool additive tip. Nice experiment. Supercharger sounds awesome
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Re: Supercharger for my Apache
Glad you got the fire lit!
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very cool diceman! thanks for sharing the journey. what a cool ride to have at your disposal.
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Re: Supercharger for my Apache
Nice job Dice, EE and Z10! The airbox modification looks good and all the screws almost look clocked.
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The next group project is going to be installing FiTech EFI and possibly a Vintage Air system on Z10's 69 Camaro Pace Car. My next project is probably going to be replacing a tired 350 Chevy engine in my 50 Merc. Too much raw fuel has been run through it for the flame throwers. I can't complain though since I have been doing it for nearly 20 years. I'm thinking I will use a crate engine with a vintage style 3 deuce EFI system. There is a company making Rochester 2G style throttle bodies now. Whatever it is it will be fuel injected. ![]() I drove the truck about 20 miles today and it is running great. Thanks again
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Looks and sounds awesome definitely above and beyond custom quality!
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gorgeous sound, just great work!
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That truck sounds SWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice Job youz guyz!!!!
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Nice work my friend!
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That is a substantial improvement that I bet you can really feel in seat of the pants driving. The smiles per mile ratio is probably way up too.
Ron, when you do your next project please be sure to link it here so we can follow along. |
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Thanks A/D, will do. Nothing like a little success with a project to get you revved up for the next one.
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Wow! What a difference! Glad for ya.
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Wow! Pert near cut 0-60 in half! Thats awesome congrats on a job well done.
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Re: Supercharger for my Apache
nice improvement! i bet it sure is fun to drive.
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Thanks guys!!!
I am certainly glad to have successfully finished this project, but a little sad also. It has been a very challenging project at times, but very satisfying and a lot of fun working with EE and Z10 on it. EE has been working on it with me since the beginning which has been 4-5 years. If we had thought it through a little better we might not have ever started. We decided we wanted to fuel inject a 6 cylinder engine with 3 intake runners using 2 throttle bodies and 4 injectors. And then put a supercharger on it. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? Well, as it turns out a lot of things. However, nothing we weren't able to overcome. Thanks again, on to the next project.
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Very impressive change in the numbers! Not to mention seamlessly blending old and new technology and craftsmanship. It has been well worth the wait!
-Joe
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Very high tech on a low tech project - I loved every bit so far.
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With almost 500 miles on the new engine and supercharger the truck is running great. EE is still tweaking the VE tables but it is mostly to correct something he doesn't like in the data logs and nothing you can feel while driving. The trucks drivability is very good and is comparable to a modern vehicle. Acceleration is very smooth with no hesitation, stumbles, surging, or hiccups at all.
While researching the McCulloch supercharger I discovered that the ball drive system they use builds a lot of heat which can cause the need for frequent rebuilds. In an effort to be proactive I decided to see if I can supply some cool air to the oil sump of the unit. There is a set of louvers on each side of the radiator core support for the horns. I decided to relocate the horn and use the one on the drivers side for the fresh air supply. Someone had drilled a big ugly hole it at some time probably for an A/C line so I cut the louvers out for a clear hole for the air to enter. Then I fabricated a 3" x 6" rectangular to a 3" round transition to route air to the supercharger. I had to dust off my geometry skills from high school and do some Google research to pull it off, but it worked out pretty well. I want to get a thermocouple attachment for my Fluke meter to test the effectiveness. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Awesome work , you got some mad-skills. Keep the photos coming.
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I second this. Quality work!
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1000 mile update Just turned over a thousand miles on the new engine and nearly eight hundred on the supercharger. I am happy to report that everything is working great. EE was concerned that we were getting close to the maximum duty cycle on the fuel injectors when the engine is under boost. So, instead of changing the injectors to a larger size we raised the fuel pressure from 3 bar to 4 bar. (43.5 to 58 psi) This effectively increased their output about 12 % and put us back in the safe zone.
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Great idea, impressive execution. Can I come apprentice with you for awhile?
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