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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
I'm going to drive my bus over this week and see if we can make the larger fenders work (I won't rob those, though) Thanks, I'll let you know if I need some truck fenders.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
if you make everything 2 inches wider (front, rear and boards) i doubt many people would even notice. well, other than 100s reading this thread. i think the uniformity would make the mod very subtle on the burb...of course the widening piece is easier said than done.. looks good so far!
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
wow, this is an awesome build. good work and keep it up.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
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Is there a way to narrow the front width? Possibly changing out the A-arms? It would appear to me that different back spacing on the wheels isn't an option. Good luck with what ever you chose. + I do like how the wheel looks in the fender for the back. I don't think that I would change it.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
I think the rear wheels need to move a back in the wheel opening. Widening the rears will look ok. I'd try the larger big truck front fenders before widening the regular truck ones. Make a decision on the running boards after the fenders are resolved.
It's looking great, I sure hope I can get down there in June to see it in person.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
An idea from a different perspective, how about a body lift? It's a lot less work than sectioning panels and might solve a couple problems. Combinr that with a change in wheel back spacing and you might be close to where you want it.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
After the cowl is raised a set of low pro's on 17's should give you the clearence. Taking away half of your side wall will do wonders.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Any direction you take it will be cool. I do like the idea of a wide bodied burb though...
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Are you thinking rear truck fenders would be too wide ?
"just curious" Something in between sounds right have never really seen truck fenders on a panel or burb. (except for a wild custom) Low and wide sounds pretty cool !
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Rear pickup fenders would be too wide. They are 6-9 inches wider. I am only going to widen them 1-2, depending upon what I do to the front.
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Don't the big truck (front) fenders also have a larger wheel opening? That might be your solution for the front right there. Also for the rear, if you're widening and welding the rear fenders to the body pickup fenders may be the best way to go there too, just trim to fit where you want it.
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Another thought I have is to raise the fender and section the hood. Its only metal after all! As far as the rear, I like the idea of the pickup fenders, but I am only widening by the amount that tucks under the body.
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Just thinking about how to minimize the amount of welding you'd have to do, and minimize warping (obviously you're not afraid to do a ton of welding with using the floor and firewall of the Envoy.). Rather than welding a strip into the fenders to make them wider, if you could use the pickup rear fenders cut down and only weld them to the body that would be less welding. This, as compared to welding in a strip to your suburban rear fenders to make them wider. Raise the fender and section the hood is cool, but I've only seen that done on trucks without running boards. Otherwise, you'd have to add metal in to get your fender back down to line up with the running board....and then you'd really need to do that to the back too to keep the wheel openings at approximately the same height. Love the project by the way! It takes a lot of $$ to get aftermarket features that loosely get what you'll have from the beginning (radio that stays on after the key is out until you open the door, cruise control, climate controls, etc. etc.).
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Yup, gonna run my bus (which has the bigger fenders) out to the shop today to check measurements. Also will take the 17 & 18 inch wheels off my Panel to see if the offset & lower profile helps. They are 5-lug instead of 6, but I should be able to get an idea.
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ITS DECIDED! We are going to cut the Burb right down the middle and widen the entire truck 5 inches.
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JUST KIDDING! Not gonna split it down the middle. The front fenders will be widened 2 inches, the back 1-2. Hope to run 18x7's and 20x10's.
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We are counting on lots of pics as you go !
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
Great build. I remember seeing someone on here working on a 60's GMC that spliced the large truck fender to the stock fender to get the larger radius. Might be something the consider. Keeps the pics coming!!
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2 inches started . . .
& its definitely easier to align fenders to the hood. and wow, that angle makes the tire look like it stick further out than it does!
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COOL! me liking it, looks good, but why not leave it as an open wheel racer!!!!!! Now that would be cool. just kidding.
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cool project!
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Re: 52 GMC Envoy Burb meld/build
What are you doing with the grille in the end? Widening it or shrinking the opening. I have a 2 ton front end sitting on my 1 ton panel right now to keep things dry. Looks right other than the wheel opening. I'd leave it but the truck will be for my son and he doesn't like it!!
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Will add the same two inches to the inside edge of the fender. I want to use most of the stock grill. Gotta keep some plans a secret for a while though ![]() (Suffice to say there will continue to be some 'melding' of the Envoy)
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