48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

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Yeah wheels are always a fun and tough decision to make. The Corvette is 17” and The 5 Star is 16”.

The Vette wheel is too wide and too small diameter to turn more than a few degrees. Fine for a shop roller on GoJacks.

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Originally Posted by oldman3

Doug, I've always liked the 5 star type of wheel. The swirl look is UGLY , even on the stock vehicle. Since these are rollers, what size are they, and what type will you run later?...Jim

Kinda leaning toward Bonneville Salt Flats today like these on the Burb Level 7 built. Tomorrow I will probably be back to a 5 spoke style.

[mongocanfly]

reckon what he did for a radiator Doug? look familiar?......is that a members burb.....never seen it before...
im on middle of the fence with salt flat rims..some guys can pull it off and it fits the truck...others look outta place..
ive been trying to picture in my head what it would look like with artillery wheels and chevy poverty caps...on the fence with those as well...
your the only one you gotta make happy with rims though....
I still like the boss style rims on a AD

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Yeah Nathan and I were talking about that intake and radiator tonight. Looks really familiar. And this one doesn’t have the engine setback mine has. Built by Level7 so I am not sure if owner is a member here. http://www.levelsevenmotorsports.com...er-copperpot/#

Found a pic of the finished truck on FB though I haven’t seen what they did for a radiator. You and Scott may need to come to one of my monthly Saturday events to help figure it out!

[mongocanfly]

those salt rims look better than I woulda thought on that one...not bad...you might contact them and see if they'll share what they did

[mongocanfly]

went to their website and going thru their pics...looks like maybe they had a change of plans

[mongocanfly]

says their shop is in marion ill....might be worth a trip

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Thanks for the additional research Greg. Looks like they found a solution. I like how they routed the HVAC lines through the kick panel area.

It could be worth a trip and I might know someone who knows them. Have some car friends down there that couldn’t make it Saturday. And the guys that did the trans tunnel might know them.

Knocking out a few things on my DD then will get back on the Burb asap. Wow, was this thing hard to get on the lift. Heavy too.

[joedoh]

no kidding, I had an aluminum flatbed on my 2500HD and its still a pig

[FAKKY]

Doug.

Can you clarify something for us newbies.
#262 for rust patch panel

When you cut it out and use a screw/cleco like that ...... doesnt that mean the backside is not painted/rust protected ?

Also ... not its not level .... so bondo to smooth out ?

Versus why dont you just cut out and shape a piece that fits and use magnets - then tack weld.

I have no idea what IM talking about - just curious. Dont get the whole 'cleco' thing exactly as it creates that "step" between panels.

[mongocanfly]

Doug...I was going back and reading your burb build from the start for the 40-11th time and this pic caught my eye.....you won't see many females doing stuff like this....my mom would have back in her younger days though..

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Originally Posted by joedoh

no kidding, I had an aluminum flatbed on my 2500HD and its still a pig

I tell you this thing has my attention being under it on my 10k Rotary lift! Pulling the bed to do some frame clean up and install running boards. Gotta admit I am doing a lot of work on the ground. Eating dirt too.

Couple front chains to attach, friends steadying on the sides and think we will be good to go. Didn’t make one of the “under the bed rail” lifts as I wanna get this done fast. Hope I don’t regret it.

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Originally Posted by FAKKY

Doug.

Can you clarify something for us newbies.
#262 for rust patch panel

When you cut it out and use a screw/cleco like that ...... doesnt that mean the backside is not painted/rust protected ?

Also ... not its not level .... so bondo to smooth out ?

Versus why dont you just cut out and shape a piece that fits and use magnets - then tack weld.

I have no idea what IM talking about - just curious. Dont get the whole 'cleco' thing exactly as it creates that "step" between panels.

Fakky that is a great question. We could have made complete panels (my metal shaping friends could have) to replace those inner wheel houses. Because the metal was very thin, it would have been necessary to have a cut line outside of the wheel well on the body side. Then you run into the issue of being able to metal finish the butt weld seam. There is no access inside to be able to planish the weld (use hammer / slapper and dolly to bring up low places from shrinking) and there would be a seam on the outside edge of the quarter panel.

So I went the patching route. And I actually used two pieces of metal. The first was overlapping the hole and was held in with screws. This was done because the metal was too thin to weld to. Typically I would make a piece and butt weld the ends.

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Then I fashioned a piece that would butt weld to the original metal. The backing piece really helped with this. What you can see here is the butt weld patch, sitting on top of the backing piece of 19 gauge metal. The screws holding the backing piece in were removed one at a time, and the hole welded closed.

The butt weld piece is tacked in.

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More of the butt weld piece welding in is completed here. Not my best work by far. Really thin metal and if I recall correctly, I found corrosion on my feed wire. Plus my lack of skill though I did the best I could.

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In place and welds somewhat ground smooth. Fakky, you are right about corrosion protection not being on there. The area behind could be treated with something. The surface has a heavy coating of Lizzard Skin. I figured it lasted for 60 years sitting outside in Texas with little to no corrosion protection, it will outlast me mostly sitting in my shop.

Hopefully that helps explain what I did here. Probably other better ways to do the same and I am always up for learning. That is what is great about this forum!

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Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Doug...I was going back and reading your burb build from the start for the 40-11th time and this pic caught my eye.....you won't see many females doing stuff like this....my mom would have back in her younger days though..

I hit the wife lottery when I was 17 when we started dating, was smart enough to know it and lucky enough she kept me.

She enjoyed working on shop projects with me.

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Enjoyed our time together no matter what we were doing...

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And could help me host the upscale functions that were part of my job responsibilities.

Greg, you saw all those people streaming through my shop at our Wire and Fire event. They were there for her. She was awesome and I will love her forever and a day.

[joedoh]

lucky man! if there was a fire in the garage my wife would start piling stuff IN from outside just to be sure of it.

*my wife is the best part of my marriage, she is aware of my good natured ribbing and does not take offense. she supports me in any endeavor.

[oldman3]

joe, good thing you covered your ars in the small print...Jim

[FAKKY]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

So I went the patching route. And I actually used two pieces of metal. The first was overlapping the hole and was held in with screws. This was done because the metal was too thin to weld to. Typically I would make a piece and butt weld the ends.

Awesome.
Also helps explain why I struggle to weld some patches .... just keeps blowing right through, even with a copper backing at times. So the piece behind gives it more structure and heat dissapation to help get teh patch in and hold without blowing the thing metal ..... if I understood.

thanks

--- I just got the later parts in your build thread and about the passing of your wife. Im sorry. I feel the same about mine as am sure many of the guys here do to .... I cant imagine and obviously dont know what to say. I did get a smile out of this quote from you ...

"she also wants me to finish this Suburban (more on that later), to take her 72 Burb on HRPT 2019, take the kids and Grandkids to Disney in 2019, gave me a short list of women to stay away from (they just will want your money!), a longer list of women she is ok with (you need someone to spend time with honey!), then enlisted her sister and a friend to make sure I follow through and even planned her celebration of life service with me and our Minister.

Like I said, she was special. I will love her forever and a day."

I think thats just awesome and speaks volumes alone.

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Originally Posted by FAKKY

Awesome.
Also helps explain why I struggle to weld some patches .... just keeps blowing right through, even with a copper backing at times. So the piece behind gives it more structure and heat dissapation to help get teh patch in and hold without blowing the thing metal ..... if I understood.

thanks

Yes exactly! This allowed me to end with a butt welded patch and a more level surface.

[mongocanfly]

fakky...I had to do a patch on my truck similar to what Doug did...I sprayed all my patch material with weld thru primer before welding...and if you have any access to the back you can use rust encapsulator on it when finished

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Originally Posted by mongocanfly

fakky...I had to do a patch on my truck similar to what Doug did...I sprayed all my patch material with weld thru primer before welding...and if you have any access to the back you can use rust encapsulator on it when finished

The weld through primer is a good idea. For some reason I was having a difficult time welding through it when doing the floor, so I started skipping it when doing the patch repairs.