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Here's what I've put together with help from this thread. I'll be starting on the rear soon, I'm leaning towards a three link and a floating 9". ![]()
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Re: Make it handle
Looks like the ball joint came inside a bit as well. Interesting. How does that affect angles?
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Re: Make it handle
I did move it in just a hair. I don't like having a ton of spacers on the UCA so this should remove a few when I get it aligned.
I will result in slightly less camber gain when the suspension compresses. I am not looking for the ultimate performance so I am not too concerned with it.
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Re: Make it handle
Rob,
Just wanted to let you know that fitted your from and rear ARB's and Doetsch shocks and have to say the transformation is phenomenal! EArlier in the thread you mention boxing and bracing the chassis, could you elaborate slightly on the bracing? Having difficulties visualising where the cross bracing goes. Also... Your customer service is to be recommended, thanks for sorting out the short shipment so promptly and apologise for not thanking you earlier. P. ![]() |
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Re: Make it handle
HI, I have a question, i have read some of the 70 plus pages here,
But my question is, have you guys found the limit to the 12 bolt rear axle with c clips, how much HP and Rear tire will it hold in a G type of set up? 6.4 500hp hemi
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this thing goes pretty good now and i don't drive slow, i hit the canyon pretty good. stock suspension with air bags and 1 1/4 front sway bar. disk up front
29/15/15 rear tires, Viking double adjust shocks in the rear kyb up front. I fear wheel studs might break and my rear tire and rim will pass me, or the c clip tip will break and the same thing will pass me......
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Re: Make it handle
I know this guy is running the stock rearend with a supercharged 406 SB with nitrous. He carries the Dyno printout with him at the car shows and claims he is past the 800 HP mark with a single hit of NOS. He's more of a straight line kind of guy though, I don't know if he's into driving the curves. There are several companies now that offer direct replacement 9" and Dana 60's. Currie and DTS (Drive Train Specialists) are a couple.
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question is: can I set the upper A-arms back with in the stock adjustment range ( threads showing on the rear of the shaft) to get additional caster ? ---OR--- does it NEED to be centered??? $2k for ridetech A-arms and coilovers just isn't in the budget at this time. I spent all my $$$ at NLE! Last edited by Bowtiguy; 07-14-2015 at 12:22 PM. |
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https://www.facebook.com/interesting...nch_main_video
it is not a truck suspension but most of the info can be used to understand basic suspension. they are already explained in the thread but it doesn´t hurt to watch.. |
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Re: Make it handle
Has anyone tried rear springs moog 6381. They have a free length of 14.34 a spring rate of 198lbs.
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Re: Make it handle
New to the site. Just bought very nice 70 swb frame and running gear.
I removed the cab and box brackets prior to frame sand blasting. I've gotten good at removing rivets! I'm going to lower it most likely 5/3.5. Question. Is it any benefit to the track bar frame mount a bit forward so it's more perpendicular to the rear end? I know I will need a new longer adjustable panhard bar. Thanks |
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I think he is taking about something like these: Since the "legs" are welded to the boll joint mount, that end cannot pivot to change the angle at that corner of the triangle. They can be adjusted to a point before the ball in the rod end binds up, they are limited to the angle of defection of the ball in the rod end. Once it binds up, then the leg will need to be heated and bent to fee up the rod end... ![]() ![]() Since the "legs" are welded to the boll joint mount, that end cannot pivot to change the angle at that corner of the triangle. They can be adjusted to a point before the ball in the rod end binds up, they are limited to the angle of defection of the ball in the rod end. Once it binds up, then the leg will need to be heated and bent to fee up the rod end...
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Thanks for the reply. Looks like I will continue to drill more rivets.
Another question. I've been looking at Mike Hickmans C10 build in regards to frame bracing. Looks like he did a far amount of X-bracing as apposed to frame boxing. Also welding triangular plates across stock cross members. Any opinions? Good or not. Thanks |
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There are several products out since, such as the Porterbuilt Inner Frame Stiffener ( http://pbfab.com/shop/inner-frame-stiffener ) that really helps to get a head start on fabricating. I wish these were available at the time I built my truck! It may seem expensive at first, but when you figure up material cost, fab and engineering time saved, it's a pretty economical piece. |
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![]() I still have quite a bit to add to it. I did a SFBD on mine but if I hadn't I would really consider going with Porterbuilt. I will have less money into mine but the amount of time I put into it would make Porterbuilt's cheaper (and of course theirs is much nicer).
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Is there a noticeable improvement in handling by diong a 4 link as compared to running the stock trailing arm setup on a 70 c10 and relocating the shocks/adding an aftermarket panhard rod?
I'm having trouble trying to decide which route to take. I'm planning to get the no limit rear rail kit and wide ride IFS up front. Just don't want to go totally broke getting the suspension/brakes dialed in. I know I could save substantially by re-using the stock differential, as it would likely be easier to just upgrade to a moser 9" when running the 4-link. Anyone have any experience with going this route? |
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Re: Make it handle
Hi Rob,
So after reading much of the thread most of it is dedicated to the later model 67 up trucks. I recently finished the paint and body work on my 1965 GMC Longbed 3/4 ton truck and while I do not plan to race it I want it to handle better than it came from the factory. I plan to keep the 8 lugs since its a money issue [already have 18"x8.5" wheels with 265/60/18's] and I have other bills. I will be swapping the front drums to the 8 lug rotor conversion [3" Drop spindles] that POL sells and using a hydroboost setup. I know about weight removal and relocation, it had two saddle tanks and the one behind the seat. All three are gone and I'm adding a 32 gallon custom built tank to it behind the axle. So part of my question is which front springs should I get since I'm switching to a 500HP 5.3L LS from the obscenely heavy 305E V6 and I really don't want to do a flip kit to drop it but I wouldn't mind the truck being more level than the stock trucks are. Should I get rid of the stock multi-leafs for a new lowered set? I still might haul light loads under 1000 pounds in it rarely. 1 1/4 inch front sway bar? 1 inch rear or bigger? Its overall weight will be much lighter than stock with all the aluminum parts and I plan to set the motor back as far as I can and still remove the valve covers if need be. I also plan to run two batteries mounted in the rear outside the frame rails behind the tank and a roll pan/custom 4"x6" pipe bumper. Someone mentioned Cal tracs and there is a new solution that's more adjustable but both seem meant from leafs under the axle not over it. Can I build something similar to the style available for the earlier trucks [55-59] ?
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Great job on that frame it looks just perfect.
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Looks great. How did this effect the ride/handling of the truck?
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