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Old 10-05-2013, 04:59 AM   #1
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

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Mike I've been following your threads and your work is pure automotive artistry! Eloquently perfected! Kudos...
Thanks man! Where in the bay area are you? I grew up in Sonoma. Still have family there.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:38 AM   #2
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Just back from another 3+ weeks in Israel.

Car is still at the blaster/bodyshop. Hood and trunk lid were SPI epoxied yesterday. Here are the bare metal pics (no primered shots yet)
















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Old 10-23-2013, 11:13 AM   #3
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Nothing looks better than bare metal ready to shoot! Isreal? Man you get around. Hope they take good care of you.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #4
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Crowne Plaza Tel Aviv Beach ...no complaints!

Picked up the hood and trunk lid. Will post pics after I unload them.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:46 PM   #5
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Frizzel, how are you going to apply the epoxy primer to the parts you can't see like the seams and behind the frame of the boot (trunk). Even on the body itself there are lots of little inaccessable spots that a spraygun can't reach. I can't recal if the body was ever going to be dipped on not.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:45 PM   #6
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Bare metal. Nuthin better!
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:03 PM   #7
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Frizzel, how are you going to apply the epoxy primer to the parts you can't see like the seams and behind the frame of the boot (trunk). Even on the body itself there are lots of little inaccessable spots that a spraygun can't reach. I can't recal if the body was ever going to be dipped on not.
Some of the rust prone areas like the pinch welds in the door bottoms and rocker panels will be treated with a liquid rust treatment (TBD) which will wick into the seams followed by a sealer.

Other areas which are not reached by the spray gun are even less effected by the media blasting, so those areas will remain as they have been since new.

The bottom line is the car will be more corrosion resistant than when new.

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Bare metal. Nuthin better!
How about freshly epoxied metal?




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Old 10-24-2013, 11:08 PM   #8
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Looks good! That's the SPI epoxy, correct?
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:58 PM   #9
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How about freshly epoxied metal?
DAMN, that do look good!
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:22 PM   #10
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Yep, SPI. It sprayed on and leveled out very nicely. It's supposed to be more sandable than most epoxies, and the sheen makes imperfections and sanded vs. non-sanded areas really stand out.
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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So that is a little dent in the hood? Been a long time since I checked in on this project. Sounds like you have been busy too. Going to have to go back several pages and catch up.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:31 AM   #12
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Sexy! Epo'd clean metal makes Daddy happy! I've been using Nason's Epo, basically just a scratch coat for the mudwork, Slick Sand, etc. I'm gonna have to give that SPI stuff a whack, been hearing lots of good things about it. Parts are lookin' good!
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:37 AM   #13
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Yes there are imperfections in the metal. The primer is there to seal the bare metal, and that's where the body work begins.

So far I've been happy with the SPI. Did a little panel scratch test vs Valspar and it seemed like more material was removed from the Valspar side. Granted it was a very unscientific test, I didn't see any drawbacks to the SPI. Long-term performance only time will tell...
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:04 AM   #14
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

Uh oh... hood has a ding... time to cut it out and put a blower on it!
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:55 PM   #15
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Shuffleboard?
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:18 AM   #16
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That SPI looks great, I'll have to try it!
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:51 PM   #17
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Uh oh... hood has a ding... time to cut it out and put a blower on it!
You had me looking into them again with that comment There used to be a roots/twin-screw blower kit for the F20C. Seems it is no longer available
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It's rare that the shop is clear enough to see that.
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That SPI looks great, I'll have to try it!
So far so good. The online chatter seems to be all positive. The old-timer bodyman who spayed it was very skeptical about "new-fandangled products," but had nothing bad to say after using it.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:36 PM   #18
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The blaster offered me the chance to get in on a blasting session. So yesterday I suited up and we got the rest of the shell done. I have a new-found respect for those guys - it's hard work maneuvering that gun and heavy hose around to get every angle. Meanwhile you are literally inside a giant blasting cabinet which can only be equated to a working in a torrential dust/sand storm! Very difficult to see most of the time. That's where team-work paid off. One was able to inspect while the other moved on.

Also, having the car on the rotisserie for blasting is the ONLY way to go IMO. Both for accessibility/thoroughness of the blast and removal of the media afterwards.

So the body is now moved to the clean side of the shop and being prepped/sanded for a few coats of SPI epoxy. I'll get pics before it's shot.
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The blaster offered me the chance to get in on a blasting session. So yesterday I suited up and we got the rest of the shell done. I have a new-found respect for those guys - it's hard work maneuvering that gun and heavy hose around to get every angle. Meanwhile you are literally inside a giant blasting cabinet which can only be equated to a working in a torrential dust/sand storm! Very difficult to see most of the time. That's where team-work paid off. One was able to inspect while the other moved on.
I've been that guy. I guarantee they aren't getting paid good enough for it lol
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

in my youth i worked at a company that made dock cranes , the realy big ones .
they had a real big shed they did sandblasting in , incredible noize
to get the mans attention you had to bang on the metal he was working on with a big hammer over the noise
i dont think the guy doing that work lived long as he was allways covered in grey stuff and rustdust
think they still used sand in those days
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I've been that guy. I guarantee they aren't getting paid good enough for it lol
Respect ...and you're right.
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in my youth i worked at a company that made dock cranes , the realy big ones .
they had a real big shed they did sandblasting in , incredible noize
to get the mans attention you had to bang on the metal he was working on with a big hammer over the noise
i dont think the guy doing that work lived long as he was allways covered in grey stuff and rustdust
think they still used sand in those days
We had full helmets with breathing air. The media was plastic and 10% alum ox. Ear plugs are a must! Using regular sand can cause silicosis.
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Respect ...and you're right.

We had full helmets with breathing air. The media was plastic and 10% alum ox. Ear plugs are a must! Using regular sand can cause silicosis.

the place i worked at was a $#!% hole, my mask was a welding helmet with rags taped to it to protect your neck. we used steel shot though, so at least dust wasnt a huge concern...

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dust was a huge issue at the place i mentioned no airevac there best he could do was keep the doors open
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Body Ready for Epoxy Primer


The interior, floorboards (top and bottom), engine compartment, and trunk will be shot by me later.

After blasting I could see that the lower/rear of the front fenders had some cancer starting. So I cut them out and will be addressing them later as well.

The shiny areas (areas which will be primered now) have all been either DA'ed or hand sanded. The dull grey is the bare virgin blasted metal.

Bring on the bare metal pics:


















































































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Looking good! That thing will be picking up groceries before you know it.. Quickly!
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