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**jaros44sr** · 08-20-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tynee

One woman in my life who's smarter than me is quite enough thanks. I like my trucks dumber than a box of rocks.
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yeah, i know what ya mean, but i have 5 women in my life, try winning any discussion...

Thanks Dusty for the deal

**jaros44sr** · 09-09-2012, 12:03 PM

Well, here is the new Scroggins-Dickey vortec tpi baseplate, mocked up with Kurt Lindner tpi

I believe it will be hooked up with FAST XFI mutiport fuel injection system...more to come on this part, as im still reading and learning which system is best for my app.
EFI Connection is still in the running, uses LS1 components w/1 coil per cylinder

Intake heater hose has to be changed for a 45 degree fitting...back into the season of working on the truck....lets see how far i get this year

**Captainfab** · 09-10-2012, 02:04 AM

Is that the standard flow or high flow base?

**jaros44sr** · 09-10-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Is that the standard flow or high flow base?

#SD3816- doesnt say, but you can bolt on any factory or after market runners. Edelbrock offered hi flo

Im leaning more towards low end torque, as opposed to high rpm hp. As you know, these things stop flowing around 4500

Any advise you can give me would be great, did you solve your problem.....
I have a great tuner with a dyno local to me

**Captainfab** · 09-11-2012, 01:04 AM

We never did get that engine to start and run right. My son solved the problem with an RPM Air Gap and a 750 Holley.

I think you will have better luck with either an aftermarket ECM such as the FAST XFI, Holley Avenger or at least an OEM OBD II PCM such as the 0411, than we did with the OBD I ECM we were trying to use.

From what I've read, the EFI Connection coil per cylinder conversion is a step in the right direction also. Although I haven't checked in the cost of that conversion, to know how affordable it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

#SD3816- doesnt say, but you can bolt on any factory or after market runners. Edelbrock offered hi flo

Im leaning more towards low end torque, as opposed to high rpm hp. As you know, these things stop flowing around 4500

Any advise you can give me would be great, did you solve your problem.....
I have a great tuner with a dyno local to me

**jaros44sr** · 09-11-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

We never did get that engine to start and run right. My son solved the problem with an RPM Air Gap and a 750 Holley.

I think you will have better luck with either an aftermarket ECM such as the FAST XFI, Holley Avenger or at least an OEM OBD II PCM such as the 0411, than we did with the OBD I ECM we were trying to use.

From what I've read, the EFI Connection coil per cylinder conversion is a step in the right direction also. Although I haven't checked in the cost of that conversion, to know how affordable it is.

I have nationally renowned tuner in my back yard, hes saying that an efi connection would be an overkill for my application and driving styles, so it will be the xfi system from fast

Cost is comparible with the two units, about 2 grand give or takel

**Captainfab** · 09-12-2012, 01:32 AM

Since you have a good local tuner, you will have a big advantage over most of us in converting to EFI. When my son and I went thru this, we were dealing with someone 1200 miles away. At the time I did not know we had a decent chassis dyno and tuner not far away. Plus with the FAST XFI being a self tuning controler.

**jaros44sr** · 09-12-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Since you have a good local tuner, you will have a big advantage over most of us in converting to EFI. When my son and I went thru this, we were dealing with someone 1200 miles away. At the time I did not know we had a decent chassis dyno and tuner not far away. Plus with the FAST XFI being a self tuning controler.

I agree, it will help me, since i have zero knowledge in this area! Plus when i put my overdrive trans in the truck, it will plug in....

Like you said, self tuner will help!

First problem, throttle body has water outlets that are getting in my way, so i have to cut them off. They were used to prevent icing in the unit, so they can go away, since i dont live in alaska

**jaros44sr** · 09-12-2012, 02:09 PM

**jaros44sr** · 09-12-2012, 03:38 PM

Started screwing around with the throttle body, of course 4 of 7 screws where seized, soaking in pbpower blaster and gunk right now. Then ican cut off the water outlets

Probably some heat and tapping the studs will soften them up

**jaros44sr** · 09-16-2012, 10:24 AM

Started to fool around with all three cables, or putting a round cable in a square bracket.

Found an oversized washer, ground down to square, and a press fit in the bracket. Corners will be silver soldered, as there is a small gap.

The other square holes are the exact fit for oem cables, cruise and throttle

Might build a collar to keep the kickdown cable in place

**jaros44sr** · 09-16-2012, 10:44 AM

OOPS! Forgot i had this piece, makes it easier

MrBeast · 09-16-2012, 11:07 AM

That is going to be a neat looking motor.

**jaros44sr** · 09-16-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBeast

That is going to be a neat looking motor.

Thanks for looking and the compliments....wanted fuel injection, so i can remote start in the winter, always liked the look of the early tpi stuff, and this one fell in my lap.

Maybe, some day i can afford the englese system, looks like the early quad webers

low'n slow · 09-16-2012, 03:34 PM

Looks good Jim. It is amazing how many changes a project goes through the longer you work on it.

FI is definately an improvement over most carb setups.

**jaros44sr** · 09-16-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by low'n slow

Looks good Jim. It is amazing how many changes a project goes through the longer you work on it.

FI is definately an improvement over most carb setups.

Time and money dictate the direction my build goes, in the beginning didnt have alot of money, but with my current job, things looked brighter. So, i could expand on some of the improvments i wanted...FI was one of them!

Thanks for your encouragement Bud, and following along. There are times when i think this project will never get done, but i sit back and look at the whole and where it all started, and i do see progress...

This fi will set me back, but i would rather have the truck roll out of the shop just the way i want it

I turned 62 the other day, thinking of retiring, but this truck is what keeps me working.....

AJs72K5 · 09-16-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Time and money dictate the direction my build goes, in the beginning didnt have alot of money, but with my current job, things looked brighter. So, i could expand on some of the improvments i wanted...FI was one of them!

Thanks for your encouragement Bud, and following along. There are times when i think this project will never get done, but i sit back and look at the whole and where it all started, and i do see progress...

This fi will set me back, but i would rather have the truck roll out of the shop just the way i want it

I turned 62 the other day, thinking of retiring, but this truck is what keeps me working.....

Amen brother! The TPI looks sexy.

**jaros44sr** · 09-17-2012, 06:19 PM

Thanks AJ, one other thing i forgot to mention in my rant....all the great people i have met along the way, 50 odd years and every day you meet someone with more info. then you previously had. Great board, huh?

Wish i had access when i started fooling around with cars

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 09-22-2012, 08:42 PM

Motor is cool looking .... Hope she runs as well as she looks...

**jaros44sr** · 09-25-2012, 03:39 PM

Thanks Bud, yeah, me too! The bottom end is the only thing in question, when i pulled the heads the cylinder walls where questionable......sooo, down the road it will have a stroked 400 sbc

Right now, im having problems with the water outlet on the intake. Been looking around to see what is available for the 1 1/2" outlet that i need. OEM seems to be about 1 1/4"

Throttle cable for the tpi should be here this week....plus i hooked up the oem fuel rail, just have to find a regulator and pressure gauge

boonedogs72 · 09-25-2012, 06:54 PM

what the info on the valve covers? are those centerbolt heads there on?

**jaros44sr** · 09-25-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boonedogs72

what the info on the valve covers? are those centerbolt heads there on?

Yes they are, a company down around south carolina casts them, pcv is under the cover...ill have to get the contact info. tomorrow

boonedogs72 · 09-25-2012, 10:55 PM

cool thanks!

msgross · 09-26-2012, 08:51 AM

You should have just found a totaled camaro or corvette... and pulled the engine...

very nice setup though

**jaros44sr** · 09-26-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boonedogs72

cool thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgross

You should have just found a totaled camaro or corvette... and pulled the engine...

very nice setup though

Boone, here is phone number and web, dont know how to do a link
866-258-5670
www.cool-LEDS.com
They work really well, if you have headers, since the spark plug wires feed thru the covers and directly at the spark plugs
Cost about 150.00

Nah, Mikey, i dont have thousands to thro at the truck at one shot, this way, i only have to thro hundreds at it each time

Thankyou for your continued service to the best country in the world, i for one sleep better knowing young men like you are covering my 6
Hope all is well with you and your family....call me if they ever need anything....
You cantrust a Marine with your money, and your life, just dont trust him with your wife

09-09-2012, 12:03 PM	#1827
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd Well, here is the new Scroggins-Dickey vortec tpi baseplate, mocked up with Kurt Lindner tpi I believe it will be hooked up with FAST XFI mutiport fuel injection system...more to come on this part, as im still reading and learning which system is best for my app. EFI Connection is still in the running, uses LS1 components w/1 coil per cylinder Intake heater hose has to be changed for a 45 degree fitting...back into the season of working on the truck....lets see how far i get this year __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 09-09-2012 at 12:13 PM.

09-10-2012, 02:04 AM	#1828
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,250	Re: PO has me PO'd Is that the standard flow or high flow base? __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

09-12-2012, 01:32 AM	#1832
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,250	Re: PO has me PO'd Since you have a good local tuner, you will have a big advantage over most of us in converting to EFI. When my son and I went thru this, we were dealing with someone 1200 miles away. At the time I did not know we had a decent chassis dyno and tuner not far away. Plus with the FAST XFI being a self tuning controler. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

09-12-2012, 02:09 PM	#1834
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-12-2012, 03:38 PM	#1835
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd Started screwing around with the throttle body, of course 4 of 7 screws where seized, soaking in pbpower blaster and gunk right now. Then ican cut off the water outlets Probably some heat and tapping the studs will soften them up __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-16-2012, 10:24 AM	#1836
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd Started to fool around with all three cables, or putting a round cable in a square bracket. Found an oversized washer, ground down to square, and a press fit in the bracket. Corners will be silver soldered, as there is a small gap. The other square holes are the exact fit for oem cables, cruise and throttle Might build a collar to keep the kickdown cable in place __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-16-2012, 10:44 AM	#1837
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd OOPS! Forgot i had this piece, makes it easier __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-16-2012, 11:07 AM	#1838
MrBeast high-Tech Red Neck Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Livingston, MT/On my boat WA/BC/AK Posts: 2,294	Re: PO has me PO'd That is going to be a neat looking motor. __________________ "He used to be a pretty nice feller, now he's a welder!"

09-16-2012, 03:34 PM	#1840
low'n slow Too Dumb To Know Better Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 882	Re: PO has me PO'd Looks good Jim. It is amazing how many changes a project goes through the longer you work on it. FI is definately an improvement over most carb setups.

09-17-2012, 06:19 PM	#1843
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd Thanks AJ, one other thing i forgot to mention in my rant....all the great people i have met along the way, 50 odd years and every day you meet someone with more info. then you previously had. Great board, huh? Wish i had access when i started fooling around with cars __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-22-2012, 08:42 PM	#1844
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: PO has me PO'd Motor is cool looking .... Hope she runs as well as she looks... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

09-25-2012, 03:39 PM	#1845
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,692	Re: PO has me PO'd Thanks Bud, yeah, me too! The bottom end is the only thing in question, when i pulled the heads the cylinder walls where questionable......sooo, down the road it will have a stroked 400 sbc Right now, im having problems with the water outlet on the intake. Been looking around to see what is available for the 1 1/2" outlet that i need. OEM seems to be about 1 1/4" Throttle cable for the tpi should be here this week....plus i hooked up the oem fuel rail, just have to find a regulator and pressure gauge __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

09-25-2012, 06:54 PM	#1846
boonedogs72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: redding ca Posts: 1,438	Re: PO has me PO'd what the info on the valve covers? are those centerbolt heads there on?

09-25-2012, 10:55 PM	#1848
boonedogs72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: redding ca Posts: 1,438	Re: PO has me PO'd cool thanks!

09-26-2012, 08:51 AM	#1849
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: PO has me PO'd You should have just found a totaled camaro or corvette... and pulled the engine... very nice setup though __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"



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