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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
The chrome shop I plan to use is Sioux Plating in Sioux City, NE. I'm going to take the parts there and then go get them when they're done. That being the case, I'd like to go ahead and narrow the rear bumper so I can take both pieces at the same time. I figure a couple of weeks or so to get the front and the rear ready. I took the day off today to go to Sedalia so my dad could visit friends and family. Plus, his little dog needed his booster shots so we went to the vet he sees there in town. Back in the saddle tomorrow.
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
At the rate I'm going, Dan, I won't be using anyone for chrome. I haven't been posting much because this has turned into more of a bucket of worms than I'd planned. Chip asked about how much the bumper bolt welding had sucked in, and I said none. Should've said "none so far". After taking the day off on Wednesday, I jumped back on the welding Thursday and flat went too fast. By the time I finished, there were peaks and valleys all over. Before I started this, I researched the cost and availability of silicon bronze wire for the MIG. I probably should have gone that route since I had a lot of weld to lay down. The TIG is just too hot unless you do little bitty stretches and let the material cool thoroughly. I have no one to blame since I know better.
Upshot of all this is that I've spent a bunch of time with the press and hammer and dolly. It's fairly straight but will never be good enough for chrome. I'm now deciding whether to use chrome wrap, hydro-graphics or a high end spray chrome like Spectra Chrome. All of these approaches will allow me to use filler and primer to repair the ugliness. Meanwhile, the hits just kept coming. After a crap ton of dolly work, grinding and filing, the bumper no longer fit the valance correctly. The first problem was that the ends had moved forward to the point where it was worse than when I started. So I pie cut the center of the top and pulled the ends together to give it more peak. This worked great, but the next issue was that the ends had also lifted up, so the center of the bumper was flat against the valance and the ends were about 5/8" up on each side. You can see in the last photo in this sequence that the center of the bumper is drooping and doesn't follow the grille line above it.
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
To correct this, I pie cut the license plate mounting area and again used the come along to draw the gap together. I've got it tacked and it's pretty close but I may widen the slice a little more tomorrow and draw it a tiny bit more. The vertical gap measures 3/8" in the middle and 1/2" at the ends. At this point, might as well make it as close as possible. However, it's time to go watch the Chiefs/Steelers pregame.
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Man that is tough... If you get it straight to the body the Chrome shop "should" be able to make it straight for plating... he'll they strighted wadded up bumpers all the time...
I know I am opposite of most people but Go Steelers!!!... I have been a Steeler fan for 45 years...
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Ya know I think 75% of us would say its perfect... I'm with Elliot on the chrome shop being able to fill the voids to make it straight, I think I'd as least show them and get there opinion, of course I know about 20% of what you know...
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
If nothing else, there's a pretty good spray chrome place in Wichita. Sorry about the hassle.
Alternative Chrome Creations, in Haysville.
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Sorry about the hassle! There's a spray chrome place in Wichita.
Alternative Chrome Creations, in Haysville. 316-680-1209
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This morning I squeezed the center gap together a bit more and was satisfied with the result, so I lopped one end off the bumper and began the trial fitting. Mocked up, the end looked like a little more than 2" would tuck it in around where I wanted. Laid out a cut line on the bumper and removed the section and put everything back together. Then it was time to slice open the fender to get the end piece lined up correctly. I marked where the end of the bumper rested and moved back about 3/4" and marked another line. The forward line was just a guess as to how big a chunk I needed to cut out. Some of this material may get patched back in later on or I may have to make an entirely new filler piece.
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So the opening looks really ugly right now. I ended up cutting more than I planned because there were a couple of places that kept interfering. I'm now faced with a decision. If I raise the end of the bumper to make it more or less line up with the fender line, the end is at more of an angle than I may be able to correct with the hammer and dolly. On the other hand, if I square up the cuts in the bumper, it looks correct except where it meets the fender on the side. There may be some additional pie cuts to the end piece in the future.
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This is an ambitious modification and I am enjoying watching you work. I know you are having some trouble with it but keep going you got this! On the matter of chrome, well you don't necessarily have to chrome the bumper you can paint both the front and rear bumper instead and it would look good especially after the mods to make it conform to body lines.
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Lol!
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I have just read into this thread for the first time. I am also going to be cutting, smoothing and tucking my bumper soon. Hopefully I'll be starting on that next month.
I've already shaved and customized a LOT of other stuff on my project, so I'll be heading into this latest mod with eyes wide open Sounds like you're starting to get frustrated on the whole bumper thing right now. My suggestion would be to walk away and work on a different part of your truck for a while (because I do the same thing), so you can get some positive mojo going and then go back to the bumper with a clearer head. Good luck, because I love your idea so far
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
Don't mind me Vic... I was brain dead this morning... I saw the stepside when you Brought CRLS home and... Well nevermind... Stupid is as stupid does...
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Looking good Vic. I like your progress so far.
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It looks like you are working through it pretty well...I like that tucked in look...
What day are you coming down for the Starbird-Devlin show...
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Holy smokes! You are showing no mercy on this bumper mod Vic. When it's finished most would never realize that it's modified, let alone what kind of muscle it took to pull it off. If you can get that done in chrome it'll be crazy-cool. Nice work!
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I like your approach on sheetmetal Vic. Your never afraid to start chopping away and it always looks awesome when your done.
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I think it is looking great, you have welding skills so there is nothing that happens that cannot be fixed
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Thanks, Duane, yours is looking kickass! Love the firewall.
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Speaking of which, I'm back on the bumper after a few days doing "other stuff". The grinder deal is mostly done. It needs slots in the base to be able to tighten the belt and I need to make some adjustable tool supports as it came without any. Good side project for another day when I need a break from CRLS. Below are some photos that show the direction I'm headed. The gaping hole will eventually be filled in with sheet metal. I'll use some of the metal that came out of the opening as a patch. A little hammer and dolly work should make it fit up reasonably well. The bumper will hide 90% of it anyway. The gap around the edge of the bumper will be about 3/16" - 1/4" depending on what looks best. I started to dolly the bumper edge to match the contour of the filler piece that's cleco'd to the fender and promptly snapped all my spot welds. I think when I welded it back together it wasn't exactly like I had it before, but it's close enough. Made a little wedge piece to fill in the pie cut and tacked it in place. More later...
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Your hand forming and vision is astounding...
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