1972 Chevy 4wd Longhorn Project: Never Ending Changes - Page 76 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-16-2013, 01:56 AM

Those tires would be a great addition!

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-25-2013, 03:44 PM

Today I decided I'd go start the truck as I wanted to see how well it started in the cold. It was 25* out, there are no grid heaters, and no, it isn't plugged in. It's been sitting out there for 2 weeks or longer. I was really surprised it fired right up. No coughing, no smoke other than what's normal. It actually started better than my daily driver 12v. (Which I still need to hook up the grid heater on as well.)

woodwright · 10-25-2013, 08:52 PM

So how come you're not driving that? I'd be driving the wheels off of it.

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-25-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by woodwright

So how come you're not driving that? I'd be driving the wheels off of it.

I still haven't finished the wiring and lights. Plus the clutch hydros aren't quite right. I'll be solving that soon.

And the biggest excuse, I've been trying to get the Excursion running and done.

Ackattack · 10-26-2013, 01:13 AM

mine didn't really like the 30 degree weather yesterday morning with the grid heaters on

6lcummins · 10-28-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

I still haven't finished the wiring and lights. Plus the clutch hydros aren't quite right. I'll be solving that soon.

And the biggest excuse, I've been trying to get the Excursion running and done.

Should leave that pedal in it and find a fun use for it...

ryanroo · 10-28-2013, 02:13 PM

I have this spare auto pedal set up that I got from a dood I know....

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-28-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 6lcummins

Should leave that pedal in it and find a fun use for it...

Heck no. I already catch myself trying to press the clutch pedal whenever I jump into an auto vehicle.

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

I have this spare auto pedal set up that I got from a dood I know....

Luckily I still have one more, or two or three.

I can't resist the oppurtunity to put a 47RH in it since I have a $1000 triple billet torque converter laying on the floor, and a pretty beefy 47RH sitting in the south bay. This truck being 6200lbs will make for a bad azz weekend warrior. My new rear bumper may add 50lbs over the one on it now. Uh oh

watahyahknow · 10-28-2013, 05:42 PM

we drive stick here more than slushboxes i can relate to hitting the brakepedal hard trying to clutch in an automatic
i realy have to force myself keeping my leftfoot on the floor so i dont brake 2 footed
when i go from automatic back to stickshift i keep stalling the engine while braking at the trafficlight

ryanroo · 10-28-2013, 07:55 PM

That bumper is the light weight performance edition. probably actually lift the rear a little when you install it

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-29-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanroo

That bumper is the light weight performance edition. probably actually lift the rear a little when you install it

LMFAO! I think that plane ride got to ya a little.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-19-2013, 04:58 PM

The only constant to this truck is change.............................

I love manuals, but I really like to go fast, and that is hard to do in a manual truck with a dual disc. Well, the conversion has begun. It's getting a billet triple disc Goerend torque converter and a built 47RH. I'll put an auto input in the DHD and redo the rear shaft. Now to decide on what floor shifter I want to go with..............

squarebodyaddict · 11-19-2013, 05:28 PM

I Like the Art Carr but Im not sure if it is available for the 47RH.

watahyahknow · 11-19-2013, 07:57 PM

hmmm sumtin like that looks like it can be converted to be used on the steeringcolumb
too bad you dont have the E or you couldve used some paddleshift system

mcbassin · 11-19-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

The only constant to this truck is change.............................

I love manuals, but I really like to go fast, and that is hard to do in a manual truck with a dual disc. Well, the conversion has begun. It's getting a billet triple disc Goerend torque converter and a built 47RH. I'll put an auto input in the DHD and redo the rear shaft. Now to decide on what floor shifter I want to go with..............

Man, that looks like a heavy chunk of iron! Looking forward to a video of you doing burn outs in this bad boy. Just like the Vette, well at twice the weight.

**gerfunken** · 11-19-2013, 08:40 PM

On mine, I went with the Lokar 16" shifter for the 518, which fits almost cleanly. I originally had the 23" for the 727, but ran into issues with both the mount to the housing as well as the height and the knob hitting the dash pad. The 16" fits in cleanly, and it's a floor mount item.

The only issue I've had with that relates to the angle on the push-rod. Where I wanted it mounted (right over the original shifter hole) made the push-rod go straight down, and I needed to change that around. While it's in there fine, I think that I would have tried to go with a cable shift model instead of the push-rod.

Still haven't gotten the truck on the road, but hope to do it this weekend, and I'll let you know how it shifts.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-19-2013, 09:02 PM

Sounds good Scott. Whatever I use will be cable for sure. I just haven't decided which way to go. Buy a shifter or build one.

**gerfunken** · 11-19-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gerfunken

On mine, I went with the Lokar 16" shifter for the 518, which fits almost cleanly. I originally had the 23" for the 727, but ran into issues with both the mount to the housing as well as the height and the knob hitting the dash pad. The 16" fits in cleanly, and it's a floor mount item.

The only issue I've had with that relates to the angle on the push-rod. Where I wanted it mounted (right over the original shifter hole) made the push-rod go straight down, and I needed to change that around. While it's in there fine, I think that I would have tried to go with a cable shift model instead of the push-rod.

Still haven't gotten the truck on the road, but hope to do it this weekend, and I'll let you know how it shifts.

And, of course I find the part now… <sigh>

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lo...18bm/overview/

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-19-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbassin

Man, that looks like a heavy chunk of iron! Looking forward to a video of you doing burn outs in this bad boy. Just like the Vette, well at twice the weight.

Me too!

Now I just have to decide on what tires to get for this. I'm thinking some treadwright retreads to bust some drifts with, then get some soft compound tires for spring and summer.

Ackattack · 11-20-2013, 12:45 AM

I had a floor shifter in my 72 GMC in my younger days and as I got older grew tired of it. On my 68 I'm using an automatic column with a lokar cable shift adapter (cable) to shift the 4L60E.

rambler · 11-20-2013, 12:51 AM

subscribing late.

72MARIO · 11-21-2013, 05:01 PM

I am seriously thinking of building a cummins chassis for my 67 C20. I am getting tired of 10 mpg...I brought home a 68 C30 longhorn frame to build up and swap bodies.

Would it be possible to build a 5.9/47RH and have it run off the stock auto shifter ? What are the chances of that tranny fitting under a low hump cab ?

watahyahknow · 11-21-2013, 06:20 PM

i think that he lowered the engine in the frame compared to the stock engine to get it to fit under the stock hood so in his case the tranny will clear fine under the stock hump

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-21-2013, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72MARIO

I am seriously thinking of building a cummins chassis for my 67 C20. I am getting tired of 10 mpg...I brought home a 68 C30 longhorn frame to build up and swap bodies.

Would it be possible to build a 5.9/47RH and have it run off the stock auto shifter ? What are the chances of that tranny fitting under a low hump cab ?

Man, it'd be a tight fit fitting it under a low hump floor due to the bell housing height. You might be able to but I can't imagine it'll be any fun to remove and install the trans. Yes, you can use a standard column shift column to shift the 47RH. I just don't want to find a tilt column shift column. Maybe I will, IDK. The yellow burb I did last fall I used a column shift shifter and made a linkage system and it works pretty good. It's a 47RH 5.9 combo.

madhatterxlch · 11-26-2013, 06:40 PM

Wow, 76 pages, so awesome project. Been doing a similar project myself. Went a diiferent direction initially. Tried doing the body swap, big pita. So now I'm back tracking. You wouldn't happen to have made a drawing of your engine & trans. crossmembers. I'm dumping in a 93 12v, NV5600 & NP205 in my 71 K20. Just trying to make up for some lost time. Thanks for any help.

10-16-2013, 01:56 AM	#1876
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Those tires would be a great addition! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-25-2013, 03:44 PM	#1877
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Today I decided I'd go start the truck as I wanted to see how well it started in the cold. It was 25* out, there are no grid heaters, and no, it isn't plugged in. It's been sitting out there for 2 weeks or longer. I was really surprised it fired right up. No coughing, no smoke other than what's normal. It actually started better than my daily driver 12v. (Which I still need to hook up the grid heater on as well.) __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-25-2013, 08:52 PM	#1878
woodwright Enjoying left field Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dillon Montana Posts: 900	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion So how come you're not driving that? I'd be driving the wheels off of it. __________________ Clint 70 Chevy 4WD "Ultimate Work Truck" SOLD

10-26-2013, 01:13 AM	#1880
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,525	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion mine didn't really like the 30 degree weather yesterday morning with the grid heaters on __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

10-28-2013, 02:13 PM	#1882
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I have this spare auto pedal set up that I got from a dood I know.... __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

10-28-2013, 05:42 PM	#1884
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion we drive stick here more than slushboxes i can relate to hitting the brakepedal hard trying to clutch in an automatic i realy have to force myself keeping my leftfoot on the floor so i dont brake 2 footed when i go from automatic back to stickshift i keep stalling the engine while braking at the trafficlight __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

10-28-2013, 07:55 PM	#1885
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion That bumper is the light weight performance edition. probably actually lift the rear a little when you install it __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

11-19-2013, 04:58 PM	#1887
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion The only constant to this truck is change............................. I love manuals, but I really like to go fast, and that is hard to do in a manual truck with a dual disc. Well, the conversion has begun. It's getting a billet triple disc Goerend torque converter and a built 47RH. I'll put an auto input in the DHD and redo the rear shaft. Now to decide on what floor shifter I want to go with.............. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-19-2013, 05:28 PM	#1888
squarebodyaddict Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: IOWA Posts: 5	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I Like the Art Carr but Im not sure if it is available for the 47RH. Attached Images

11-19-2013, 07:57 PM	#1889
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion hmmm sumtin like that looks like it can be converted to be used on the steeringcolumb too bad you dont have the E or you couldve used some paddleshift system __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

11-19-2013, 08:40 PM	#1891
gerfunken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 490	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion On mine, I went with the Lokar 16" shifter for the 518, which fits almost cleanly. I originally had the 23" for the 727, but ran into issues with both the mount to the housing as well as the height and the knob hitting the dash pad. The 16" fits in cleanly, and it's a floor mount item. The only issue I've had with that relates to the angle on the push-rod. Where I wanted it mounted (right over the original shifter hole) made the push-rod go straight down, and I needed to change that around. While it's in there fine, I think that I would have tried to go with a cable shift model instead of the push-rod. Still haven't gotten the truck on the road, but hope to do it this weekend, and I'll let you know how it shifts. __________________ -Scott 1972 Chevy K20 Picture Gallery Build Thread 1930 Chevy AD Picture Gallery 1929 Ford Model-A Picture Gallery 1975 Triumph TR-6 Picture Gallery

11-19-2013, 09:02 PM	#1892
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Sounds good Scott. Whatever I use will be cable for sure. I just haven't decided which way to go. Buy a shifter or build one. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-20-2013, 12:45 AM	#1895
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,525	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I had a floor shifter in my 72 GMC in my younger days and as I got older grew tired of it. On my 68 I'm using an automatic column with a lokar cable shift adapter (cable) to shift the 4L60E. __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

11-20-2013, 12:51 AM	#1896
rambler MOVE OVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 5,470	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion subscribing late. __________________ No matter where you are..... There you are... Buckaroo Banzi

11-21-2013, 05:01 PM	#1897
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion I am seriously thinking of building a cummins chassis for my 67 C20. I am getting tired of 10 mpg...I brought home a 68 C30 longhorn frame to build up and swap bodies. Would it be possible to build a 5.9/47RH and have it run off the stock auto shifter ? What are the chances of that tranny fitting under a low hump cab ? __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD



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11-21-2013, 06:20 PM	#1898
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion i think that he lowered the engine in the frame compared to the stock engine to get it to fit under the stock hood so in his case the tranny will clear fine under the stock hump __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

11-26-2013, 06:40 PM	#1900
madhatterxlch Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Show Low, AZ Posts: 14	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Wow, 76 pages, so awesome project. Been doing a similar project myself. Went a diiferent direction initially. Tried doing the body swap, big pita. So now I'm back tracking. You wouldn't happen to have made a drawing of your engine & trans. crossmembers. I'm dumping in a 93 12v, NV5600 & NP205 in my 71 K20. Just trying to make up for some lost time. Thanks for any help.

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