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Old 04-05-2006, 07:08 PM   #176
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

unfrickenbeleivable. How much to have a cab done in primer???????
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:31 PM   #177
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

Keep it up Kevin! And what is the body wax you are talking about shooting in the holes? Does it prevent rust? Thanks, Jeff.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:52 PM   #178
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What's the blue stuff on the right edge? Awesome work by the way!!!!!
It is a new water type rust product I am trying out. Once I figure out if I like it or not I will give out the name and info. Just so we are clear I have nothing to do with the product. I paid fo rit like everyone else but before I say who it is by or people think I recomend it I want to make sure it isa good stuff.

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Old 04-05-2006, 10:59 PM   #179
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Keep it up Kevin! And what is the body wax you are talking about shooting in the holes? Does it prevent rust? Thanks, Jeff.
It is a product Eastwood sells (or re sells) and sounds like it is worth trying. I have not tryied it wet but in some of those hard to get at places I want to give it a try. The factory did not coat or prime alot of areas on these trucks and you can see how that has worked out

https://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/...emType=PRODUCT

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Old 04-06-2006, 05:28 AM   #180
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

I've been using anti rust wax for years here in the UK where we know a thing or two about rust. There are several products on the market here, probably the best known is a product called Waxoyl made by the same company that make Hammerite paint, the second best known is called Dinitrol, who have a variety of different products depending on what you're doing with them and theres a new pretender from a company called Bilt-Hamber. I've used their water based deruster which is just magic, dissolve some non toxic non corrosive powder in warm water, soak the part for 24 hours and the rust all is dissolved away. They do a cavity wax that I'm going to try out when I've done the rockers on my truck. I'm also going to do the inside of the cab corners with it. The wax never quite sets so it's self healing, i.e. you get a small scratch in it and it will close up over it, just seals out water and oxygen from the steel.

These are some steel shutters from my french house that I derusted in Bilt-Hambers Deox-c, they were very heavily corroded, a quick blast over with a wire wheel in a grinder and then a 24 hour soak. rh is before middle after and the end one painted.

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Old 04-06-2006, 08:54 AM   #181
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Could you find any links to the different products you listed! And nice rock wall in the back ground!! With the body wax what do you use to apply? East wood has a kit that is kind of like a suction sprayer. It sucks the product out of the container and shoots it in thru a rod of flexable hose that I think will make it great for getting up into the windshield area!

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Old 04-06-2006, 10:12 AM   #182
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:20 AM   #183
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

Waxoyl's website is here http://www.hammerite-automotive.com/waxoyl.htm
Dinitrol is here http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/
Bilt-Hamber is here http://www.bilthamber.co.uk/shoppingbasket.php

Waxoyl comes in cans that can be applied with either a simple pastic pump and tube with a nozzle that fits straight on the gallon cans or it can be applied using a compressor powered gun, same with Dinitrol, the Bilthamber Dynax wax comes in a big aerosol with a built in tube. All of them will benefit from being stood in a bucket of hot water for a while to make sure the wax is as runny as possible, ideally you want a warm day to apply it on so the wax will flow into the nooks and crannys and joints, however do it out of direct sunlight, if a panel is too hot it'll just slide right off! Once it's set then its not a problem. It's a horrible messy job though, drive the vehicle onto a sheet of plastic that you can throw away afterwards, wear some really old clothes and a hat and just be prepared to pump a couple of gallons into all the box sections, inside panels and doors etc (drill holes if neccesary and then plug with little plastic plugs). I know waxoyl and Dinitrol also do an underseal type product in black or clear for use on the underside of the vehicle too.
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:24 PM   #184
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Lippyp~ Thanks I will check into this stuff. I am sure it is messy but well worth doing if you want to slow/stop the rust in these trucks. As for applying it this is one of the main reasons I designed the Tip & Flip dolly. My first cab was so bad (under a great paint job) that their was no saving it and I told my self I would not waist my time building one if I can not stop this from happening.

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Old 04-07-2006, 01:22 PM   #185
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

Well I'm new to this site and happened across this project.

I have been working towards doing a crew cab out of a suburban for several years. I have cut down several rusted out 'burbs to learn how they were assembled. And I have already done many hours of dreaming along with that. And after looking at all of your pictures from your project there has been nothing that you have shown me that I already have not planned for. Though I was not looking at changing the 'burb roof line I was going to redefine the rear cab panel to match. I'm still mixed about which way to go now. The lower roof line looks better (like it should be done).

I do have a couple of questions:
1) How did you work the roof line down did you cut the roof off at the drip rail and work it out or did you cut and splice it in middle?
2) I noticed that when you cut out for the 4th door that you removed the vin plate. I have been working with a local TXDot officer and he will not accept it with the vin plate tampered with. He looks at it like it is unidentifiable and considers it to be stolen. So do you have a plan about how it will be identified?

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Old 04-10-2006, 05:57 PM   #186
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Old 04-11-2006, 06:10 PM   #187
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

First off the roof was already done when it came to me. It looks likew they cut it off about 1.5" up from the rain gutter and slid the upper section down over the lower and welded it their. Not what I would have done but it is ok all the same.

As far as the VIN plate it was inspected by the proper people and documentation was taken for verifacation. I the vin plate will go back in but in the fourth door jamb again by the proper authoritys. Not an easy task but when you know people and spend the time asking before you just do it, it seems to help. Good luck with state!

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Old 04-11-2006, 07:33 PM   #188
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Keep up the great work, man I lvoe this build thread
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:55 PM   #189
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The door hinges are ready so I will be setting door gaps and starting on the pass side for rust repair soon. In the mean time I snuck a 2wd blazer project into the shop for a few days of work. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=194823 need to brake things up now and then

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Old 04-11-2006, 08:07 PM   #190
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Here is a picture of the door hinges that were bead blasted and new pins installed. If we get a warm day I can primer them.
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:55 PM   #191
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Well it's good to hear that someone has thought about how to make a project legal.

I don't know how many times I have tried to tell people that they need to start by talking with DOT officers. Doing this in the beginning can save a lot of time & money. Been there done that.

Heck they can be your friend or they can be your enemy, I want them on my side.

Have you noticed that any of the newer 73-92 suburbans & crew cabs offer very similar rear door hinges?

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Old 04-12-2006, 01:12 PM   #192
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Have you noticed that any of the newer 73-92 suburbans & crew cabs offer very similar rear door hinges?

Yes I have but the differance in door thickness creates porblems in getting the door to swing full open. Or you can get it to swing full open but your dor gaps are on the wide side. We just used stock 3rd door hinges and rebuilt them backwards! Hinge pin in from the bottom and then just mount it upside down Plus when this is finished we are going for a completly stock (as stock as it would have been) look with the conversion.

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Old 04-19-2006, 10:28 PM   #193
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So is it wrong of me to be a bit happy that this one is not a true 4 door. They sure did a great job building it, I only hope our finished product is this nice but with 25% more door!! We will be starting back this weekend on the 68 crew cab project so stay tuned for more (over 100 so far) pic's.

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Old 04-19-2006, 11:31 PM   #194
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whats up with the grill in that thing. otherwise a great looking truck
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:36 PM   #195
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It looks like a 4 door in the picture with the rear door handle on the drivers side until you read the details of the truck. I wonder what frame he used or maybe used 2 frames to build it, he did not say in his description.
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:40 PM   #196
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From the pictures it looks like they just lengthened the undercab portion on the frame with straight C channel steel?
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Re: Project Penicillin~ 68 crewcab build up!

anybody got a link to that one?
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Old 04-20-2006, 12:01 AM   #198
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Here ya go

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So is it wrong of me to be a bit happy that this one is not a true 4 door. They sure did a great job building it, I only hope our finished product is this nice but with 25% more door!! We will be starting back this weekend on the 68 crew cab project so stay tuned for more (over 100 so far) pic's.

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Nope, not wrong in the least. I have been following this thread and see the amazing amount of work you have done on this truck. Although that truck on Ebay is a beautiful truck, it was still the easy way. The right way is very rarely the easy way.

You are definatly doing it the right way!
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