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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
That is a way cool truck man, you have to love the 1 tons, they are just awesome.
I will be looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
I'm sure thinkin' that we are on the same track, as far as these Task Force Duallys are concerned.
You have a wonderful family. Great folks for sure. I spent some time in Perry.....just a little. Everyone I met wanted to take me home so they could feed me....an' maybe we'd all go noodlin' on the weekend. The finest place I've ever visited......bar none. Can't wait to someday go back.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
We appreciate the kind remarks from yall'
![]() Haven't got much done lately. Still driving it on weekends when we can and gathering up parts before taking it down. The NV4500/205 is the big piece in my puzzle and I've been working with a major drivetrain shop here in the city to piece together the combo...just $$$ to make it happen ![]() Picked up a used hydro boost and upgraded to a different PSC reservoir with the double return and internal filter for it...still figuring out which master I want to use.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Wow. Just read the whole thread for the first time. Wow. Awesome work. Looks like tons of good old family fun.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
sweet!
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
im brining this one alive to lol. i love your builds. the motor in?
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Updates?
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Well, I'm still working on pulling the drivetrain together before tearing it down.
The NV4500 has been built for a few weeks now and we're waiting on a new input shaft for a dodge 205 and adapter we picked up that was originally behind a 4500. Turned out to have a few issues, but after combining parts from both the 205s we have and chasing a couple new pieces (that were a challenge to source) we will hopefully have everything together in the next week or two. At that point, I'm really hoping to be able to make enough time to get it on a buddy's lift and start tearing into it.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Wow, didn't realize how much time has passed with so little progress. We've been driving this around when we can and gathering parts when we can't.
I've been working with Blumenthal Companies here in OKC on pulling together everything needed to drop a NV4500/205 behind the BBC. Initially, I was very disappointed with the lack of progress and misinformation I was being fed by an individual within the organization and had made the decision to take my business elsewhere...after a few months of being mislead! I did, however, recognize that Blumenthal's is a leader in their industry and was the most capable of building exactly what I wanted. I contacted a general manager within the company, explained my poor experience, and was pleasantly surprised to find them apologetic, accommodating, and eager to reverse my sour impression. From that point forward, progress was still slow, but I was kept updated with honest information and knew that they were making every effort to build what I wanted at a reasonable cost. After a bit of parts chasing, some back and forth with Advance Adapters, and pieces from a number of 205's, I have a 5.61 4500 with the 29 spline output rear to a dodge 205 (completely rebuilt w/32 spline f/r) and a chevy 10 spline input with AA bell housing. Also picked up a used ORD passenger hi-steer arm ![]()
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
great build guys, love the whole story,keep up the awesome work!!!
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Very nice!
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Great parts! It is looking great. What spring hangers are you going to go with in the front?
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Are you going to be able to retain your stock wheels with the new front axle? This thing is going to be killer. Heck it already is.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
The wheels aren't stock, but yes, I plan on running the 19.5 wheels that are on the truck now.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Oh, cool deal. Are the P-30 chassis style 8 lug 19.5 wheels found on some bread trucks?
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Those are cool! There's a gmc cummins on craigslist with some, I like the way they look. http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2486327387.html
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Still gathering parts...installed a 11" CF2 clutch along with a hi-torque starter before bolting it all together to check clearances and work out details with the slave cylinder, PTO, and TC shifters.
Since it's cooled down a bit, my son and I spent a couple hours in the garage making a stand to hold the drivetrain up. ![]() ![]()
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Very nice!
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That engine and tranny looks good.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Man, you guys do great fab work! And the powertrain looks awesome! great job!
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
congrats great build and a great thread
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project
Sweet build thread. I'm lovin that truck and the drivetrain your putting together for it. I'd give my left you know what to put somthing like that in my C30
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