Bubba's recycling project

[bubba327]

This one is for you Alan .. If you lived closer ....
I got brave and welded the old gas tank hole up.It is only metal and bondo will cover it . Actually 6 coats of High build primer did a pretty good job for a temporary thing. I'll do the body work after the crash!!!

[daverod]

The intake is on my truck. That's just a old picture to tease you with. Hows the pig growing going.

[bubba327]

Dave You are terrible_ I thought you might ship that up here to let me try it for a while.


Does that Clifford bolt to the exhaust manifold like stock? How do the Offenhausers mount ? Wonder if a guy could TIG weld a water heater line on the bottom of the Offy like Cliffords
I like the Idea of the heated intake here in Idaho for the winter use.
I might just upgrade manifolds if I can find one. I am really tired of one barrel carbs
My weber carb idea might work but they are EXPENSIVE and the tuners I talked with are really not very excited with my idea of putting a weber carb on a Chevy Inline 6. Maybe a 38/38 would work but not the 32/36 progressive I have.
Fair pigs are ready to go. Girls have had a fun summer raising Market swine.

[bubba327]

Score!!
Found a buddy of my father-in-law with a stash of intakes from his super six race car days . Says they are Holley , same as Cliffords ?
Thinks he still has some water heat plates although they never used them on the race cars. He will dig them out this weekend and I will pick it up on Monday.
May have some carbs also.
Okay -- We are off to state fair for a week of 4-H/FFA livestock shows

[daverod]

Bolts up but you also need headers. Cool find on the manifolds. Where's the fair? I bet I get better gas mileage then I did with a one barrel. Except I rod it everwhere I go.

[Vernski]

Originally Posted by bubba327

Score!!
Found a buddy of my father-in-law with a stash of intakes from his super six race car days . Says they are Holley , same as Cliffords ?
Thinks he still has some water heat plates although they never used them on the race cars. He will dig them out this weekend and I will pick it up on Monday.
May have some carbs also.
Okay -- We are off to state fair for a week of 4-H/FFA livestock shows

If the Holley were the same as a Clifford it wouldn't need a heat plate, the Clifford is plumbed with water lines in and out it also cools the gas at high temps as well as heat at low temps. The heat plates just boil the gas, the Clifford is the better design IMO. I always go to the fair in CDA and a week latter at the Spokane fairgrounds [love those elephant ears] every fall...Vernski

[bubba327]

It is manifold Christmas!!
I Now have 2 Cliffords, but both are un-heated, One stock gm one barrel and one stocker modified to mount a Holley. Plus a Holley 7448 race carb (350CFM 2 barrel) but it seems to have the choke butterfly removed. Gee it is good to have friends who have old parts stashed away.

The Cliffords are both without heat risers . Not exactly what I wanted but they were CHEAP and I could not let them get away. One has the 2 barrel adapter on it . I did not really want to change to headers right now since I just finished the exhaust system
Any body made an exhaust heater box or hot water box for them? What does the bottom of the water heated Clifford style look like?
Post some pictures if you have any of the bottom view of a heated Clifford manifold and also how it is plumbed in the the hot water loop.
I also have a line on a Offenhauser 5416 single 4-barrel which can use the stock exhaust / heater box OR a water heater if using headers . I will have to wait a few days to see if it is still available.
Survived 5 days at Western Idaho State Fair. Daughters came home with a big bunch of blue ribbons. 4-H Project sale pig went 284 lbs

[Vernski]

Hey yeah I for one thought all Clifford's were plumbed with a water jacket it seems the early ones did not have it. What does the side and bottom look like?
here's a link to the Clifford site maybe someone there has an answer...Vernski

http://www.cliffordperformance.net/M...gory_Code=C250

[bubba327]

Clifford side and back view



Put a stock manifold from my 71 on to see if vacuum leak is cured. It has 17"hg at idle-I still have monojet installed as it works best. It chirps the tires every time you start out with the 3.73 rear axle. Should get better mileage when I put in the 3.07.
Still hoping to get the Offenhauser but School starts Monday.
Daughter would love to drive it to school. Lots of little stuff still needs done. Better get back to work on it while I have daylight.

[daverod]

It's Chrismas. I would sell all that stuff on ebay and get a heated one and headers for free.That's way to much fair.

[bubba327]

The Offenhauser intake deal fell through.
Spent last night and today building a receiver hitch and bumper supports. The hitch is more protection for the gas tank than anything.
Put the old bumper back on for now. got everything in the back welded and put gas in the tank for the first time.
We have been driving around with a 5 gallon can in the bed all along

My uncle the machinist still shakes his head and wonders WHY I keep messing with the inline six when the Chevy small block is easier to find and parts are everywhere and cheaper and more horse power is available
I think I am starting a engine fund rather than upgrading the Inline.

[bubba327]

Front sway bay went on today. (1-1/8" from a 74 3/4 ton)That took a lot of the roll and push out of the cornering.Took a drove to wally world and bought a JVC stereo and speakers. Drove on to school and back home (12 miles one way). Wife wanted to be sure it would make it there and back!
Went for a drive tonight with me in a pace car because the speedometer is way off. Actual 25mph reads 35---- 50 reads 73-74 --- actual 55 reads 80. Gotta watch the school zones.
The gas tank is half full but no gauge yet. We will let her drive it a few days and see how things go.
Brakes are still hard , I don't think the brake booster is working but then the vacuum is back down to 14" hg at idle with everything hooked up. May have to put a soup can in the vacuum line. Read somewhere that boosters need 18"HG to work right.
School starts tomorrow- and it is going on the first day!!!

[bubba327]

Well the first day of school came and off they went. My 16 year old and her 46 year old truck.
Not without a coulee of glitches. The alternator belt started howling when the headlights turned on , I guess I never had them on while the motor was running and the belt was a little loose. So I had her just use the running lights since it was fairly light. BUT she forgot to turn them off when she got to school and the battery was dead after school. She had to stay for a volleyball game so I took the jumper cables and went to school for the rescue.
Day one- operator error- (Her Yota has a buzzer when you leave the lights on)- Not the truck's fault

[likaroc13]

that's awesome...brings back memories of me driving my dad's old beat up '66 short bed to school sometimes...it looked like hell & wouldn't go much faster than 55mph, but it never seemed to let us down...even though it was our beater truck & only got driven when something else was down, it was always fun to drive...and it was blue/white/rusty

[jocko]

it must be a rite of passage....

i drained my batt on my light blue 66 the first day i drove it to work.

buzzer, auto headlights, etc - I fell into the same trap.

Great truck, great story, great daughter, and obviously a great Dad - congrats on the first day of school!

[63sbssbbw]

That's awesome Bubba,I'll bet she was thrilled (I know I would've been)
I wish i was that lucky at 16,
T

[bubba327]

Thanks for the support guys!!
No problems since day one and the dead battery. We have put 200 miles on it so far since Sunday -It is 25 miles round trip to school and I have been cruising around the country roads in the evenings.
She drives SWEET! It just floats down the road. I put a new 1" shorter fan belt on Monday night so the howling stopped.
The 3.73 rear gears are still OK at 55 mph but a 3.08 or 3.43 ratio would be needed if freeway driving was required. For now the country roads speed limit to her school is 50.
Still having low vacuum (12-13"hg) at idle. Power brake booster not really helping but still have good solid brakes.
Stopped by a buddy's house for advice (He races street stock and super mod) He listened to my trouble and listened to the motor and swears there is a cam installed to make it lope like it does. He wonders if the head has been milled to raise the compression.
Maybe so -I never took the motor apart. Would explain some things like low vacuum and high compression (145 lbs average ) Motor sure runs out nice!
Not sure what to do about the Brake booster........... maybe hook a vac line from another car over to it and verify low boost vacuum is the problem. Central vac in garage is only 5"hg ..not enough..


Jocko - nice dog in your avatar- Heelers are my favorite-I have owned several, but have a Aussie now. They are a little gentler on my kids tame 4-H livestock

[Alan's Classic]

That's awesome how well things are working out. Let me guess she is the only one that is driving an old truck to school. I'm guessing you don't have a mityvac hand pump for testing systems on cars. Sometimes I forget I have certain tools. Especially the special ones I don't use much. Maybe a friend might have one.

[jocko]

thanks bubba - i've had several heelers also - but know what you mean about "gentle" with cattle, and kids for that matter - he's not exactly gentle with anything...

I bet your daughter is the hit of her high school with the old blue chev!

What a great project.

[bubba327]

Daughter is Student Body V.P. this year at 5A high school and THOUGHT she knew most of the other students as she is very active in school activities . She said lots of new people came up and asked "Is that your Blue truck? You are SO lucky. What an awesome truck !!" Yeah --She is pretty proud!! The week went well. Heck-- she drove it all week with out a radio !!!

Tore things apart tonight . One headlight was dim (Bad ground ) so I am doing the headlight re-wire using relays , and pulled the voltage regulator and going to new style GM internal regulated alternator (63 amp). maybe the new stereo system if time allows.
Has to be back together by Tuesday morning
There are a few other older cars at her school including a 60s mustang- a Baja bug a El camino and two Camaros and a few other 70s trucks and a couple Blue oval trucks (F%&DS)

[AmmoSS]

Great story, hope to see you around! I'm in Meridian.

[bubba327]

Originally Posted by AmmoSS

Great story, hope to see you around! I'm in Meridian.

Hey another local guy !! welcome to the fun!!

I was at the Friday night high school football game and was sitting in the grandstands with my friend who is the FFA ag teacher there. He casually mentioned that the Jumper cables have been used more than once in the last two weeks due to that light switch being left on... Seems to be a problem here. The guys in the ag class really don't seem to mind helping out a girl driving a cool truck .

NAPA makes this headlight-on buzzer for about 8 bucks and is really simple to hook up right at the fuse panel (Balkamp BK782.1637) . This is probably 8 dollars well spent.
If the battery goes dead again I may have to look at the bigger picture here and just see how big a problem I really have. May not be anything wrong with the truck......

Headlight relays are now finished and the GM SI 10 alternator works great now. Charging at 14.6 Volts
I highly recommend adding the relays . It helps the brightness of the headlights a whole lot. (And the 63 amp Alternator helps too)
It has been a great daily driver for two weeks now.
She does NOT want the Yota back

[AmmoSS]

Great story, hope to see you around!

[bubba327]

well what do you think???
Wish I could say it was mine But this one is finished and mine is not!
I saw this one at the fall swap meet today . Had a 502 big block!!! Super clean and nice!
Made mine look like the ugly step-sister..

[bubba327]

I finally gave in and cut the dash.. Installed a JVC stereo With Ipod and USB port. Has 80 some different colors for the back light. Daughter is very happy now that radio/ Ipod works.
Speedometer is a little off calibration so we have a note to remind us. 55 mph is screaming wound up fast with 235/60 15 tires and 3.73 gears!!
I am trying to find a narrow 60-69 rear axle in 3.08 ratio. I have a 3.08 in a wider 71 with 5 lug axles (that I could drill out to 6 lug) but with my tires and rims that extra 1 1/2' width will put the tire very close to the inner fender lip. It seems there were very few 3.08 axles in this area... When I get this worked out I can change the Speedometer gear to correct speeds.

Daverod gave me his old back-up lights that he took out of his 66. Darn nice of him... Working on cleaning them up and getting them ready to Install. Thanks again Dave

Battery problems have been solved .. The headlight buzzer works well.